White House to detail plan to safeguard US auto sector, avoid second 'China shock'

American auto industry, except Tesla, lives in a artificial and protected market. Thats why americans cars fell behind rest of the world in design and quality.

The hope is that Tesla eventually will manage to usher a bew automotive era, but unlike Henry Ford, this time its facing fierce competition from Chinese EVs which are the State of the Art.
 
Most developing countries have tariffs as their auto industries are not as developed as advance countries like United States, Europe and Japan.

Reads to me like it's going to be an outright ban rather than tariff.
 
China had 80% to 100% car tariffs for decades (starting in the 1980's I believe) forcing foreign automakers to do joint ventures. It wasn't until 2006 that they started reducing it to 25%.

So you think it was a failure and Chinese car companies became uncompetitive due to it????

BTW China had car companies since at least the 1950's.


Doesn't sound like a tariff. And of course China has a high auto tariff in the 80's as it was an underdeveloped country with an auto industry that is in its infancy. If you think the US auto industry is in the same situation today, then sure, protectionism make sense. But with the actual situation in the US, I don't think such protectionism would actually give the big auto incentive to become more competitive, but rather than the other way around.
The U.S. Commerce Department on Monday proposed prohibiting key Chinese software and hardware in connected vehicles on American roads due to national security concerns, a move that would effectively bar nearly all Chinese cars from entering the U.S. market.
 
Doesn't sound like a tariff.

Of course it was!
Don't you remember the days of Chinese tourists taking shopping trips to Europe to get around tariffs on imported goods???

June 02, 2014

The report also finds that Chinese travelers’ number one travel spending activity remains shopping, with an estimate that 30 percent of total Chinese trip expenditure is dedicated to retail purchases. Middle-class travelers are very price-conscious and spend big on shopping in order to take advantage of tariff-free prices of European goods.

And of course China has a high auto tariff in the 80's as it was an underdeveloped country with an auto industry that is in its infancy. If you think the US auto industry is in the same situation today, then sure, protectionism make sense.
Yes, most legacy automakers have almost no experience building EVs. That's why Tesla has a dominating ~50% of the US EV marketshare. That's even higher than what BYD has in China.

But with the actual situation in the US, I don't think such protectionism would actually give the big auto incentive to become more competitive, but rather than the other way around.
Well it took China decades to get its act together under heavy tariff protection and we can just do the same with legacy automakers.
 
Of course it was!
Don't you remember the days of Chinese tourists taking shopping trips to Europe to get around tariffs on imported goods???

No, from the commerce department proposal, it's not going to be a tariff but ban.
 
Yes, most legacy automakers have almost no experience building EVs. That's why Tesla has a dominating ~50% of the US EV marketshare. That's even higher than what BYD has in China.

Well it took China decades to get its act together under heavy tariff protection and we can just do the same with legacy automakers.

Most legacy automakers already have various EV on the market. They just aren't competitive, and tariff will only remove the incentive to become competitive.
 
Chinese cars offer way too much for very competitive prices, and they are no longer shit. 19/20 difference at best.

Only way an American car can compete is if they shift all the factories to south American shitholes and ship them in as CBUs.
 

White House to detail plan to safeguard US auto sector, avoid second 'China shock'​

By David Shepardson
September 23, 20241:55 PM UTC

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National Economic Council Director Lael Brainard speaks during the daily briefing at the White House in Washington, U.S., October 26, 2023. REUTERS/Ken Cedeno/File Photo Purchase Licensing Rights

WASHINGTON, Sept 23 (Reuters) - Top White House economic adviser Lael Brainard will lay out on Monday the Biden administration's broad approach to safeguarding the U.S. auto sector from what it considers China's unfair trade actions.

"China is flooding global markets with a wave of auto exports at a time when they are experiencing overcapacity. We have seen this playbook before in the China shock of the early 2000s that harmed our manufacturing communities," Brainard will say at the Detroit Economic Club, according to prepared remarks seen by Reuters.

"The administration is determined to avoid a second China shock, which means putting safeguards in place before a flood of underpriced Chinese autos undercuts the ability of the U.S. auto sector to compete on the global stage."

She cited one analysis that the Detroit metro area lost more than 55,000 manufacturing jobs due to import competition from China since 2001.
Relatively few Chinese-made cars and trucks are imported into the United States.

The U.S. Commerce Department on Monday proposed prohibiting key Chinese software and hardware in connected vehicles on American roads due to national security concerns, a move that would effectively bar nearly all Chinese cars from entering the U.S. market.

"Americans should drive whatever car they choose – gas powered, hybrid, or electric," Brainard will say. "But, if they choose to drive an EV, we want it to be made in America, not in China."

Brainard's appearance comes as the fate of the auto industry and pressure from China has become a major theme in the 2024 presidential election with the Republican candidate Donald Trump suggesting China could dominate future auto production.

Earlier this month, the Biden administration locked in steep tariff hikes on Chinese imports, including a 100% duty on electric vehicles, to boost protections for strategic industries from China's state-driven industrial practices.

"In order for companies to invest in innovative new designs and models here in America, they need to be assured that their investments won’t be undercut by unfairly underpriced cars from China," Brainard will say.

The White House aims to ensure that Chinese automakers cannot set up factories in Mexico to get around high tariffs.

"China’s overcapacity in EVs will be a major area of focus as we look to the U.S.-Mexico-Canada trade agreement mid-term review in 2026," Brainard will say.

Their faces tell that they are shell-shocked.
 
Most legacy automakers already have various EV on the market. They just aren't competitive, and tariff will only remove the incentive to become competitive.

Various? What are you talking about??
Are you on drugs or something?

Chrysler has ZERO evs. As in zip, zilch, none.

Ford has only two EVs
1) Mustang Mach E - SUV
2) Ford Lightning - pickup truck,

GM has six
1) Chevrolet Silverado - pickup truck
2) Chevrolet Blazer - SUV
3) Chevrolet Equinox - SUV
4) Cadillac ESCALADE - SUV
5) GMC SIERRA - pickup truck
6) GMC HUMMER - truck

Tesla has five
1) Model 3
2) Model Y
3) Model X
4) Model S
5) Cybertruck
 
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Various? What are you talking about??
Are you on drugs or something?

Chrysler has ZERO evs. As in zip, zilch, none.

Ford has only two EVs
1) Mustang Mach E - SUV
2) Ford Lightning - pickup truck,

GM has six
1) Chevrolet Silverado - pickup truck
2) Chevrolet Blazer - SUV
3) Chevrolet Equinox - SUV
4) Cadillac ESCALADE - SUV
5) GMC SIERRA - pickup truck
6) GMC HUMMER - truck

Tesla has five
1) Model 3
2) Model Y
3) Model X
4) Model S
5) Cybertruck

"In 2021, Stellantis recorded just over 388,000 plug-in electric vehicle sales worldwide. This was over double its 2020 numbers."
Statista
 

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