Why Rafales and not Su57 chosen

[harpy1]

India’s Stealth Breakthrough: HAL Already at 50% Capacity to Build Su-57E ‘Felon’ Fighter Jet, Says Russian Report - Defence Security Asia

Russian delegation confirms HAL is 50% ready to produce the Su-57E stealth fighter in India, marking a major leap in airpower, Make in India, and Indo-Pacific deterrence.

defencesecurityasia.com

As anyone seen this ...
Apparently audit was made by Russia on Indian potential manufacturering as the current su30mki plant in nasik India

Is something cooking

 

[harpy1]

@harpy1

Why Rafales and not Su57 chosen​

If you truly want to know the answer to this question, and its deeper implications, I have a suggestion for you:

You are using multiple AI tools simultaneously for in-depth discussions. However, you must first add a paramount rule: maintain absolute rationality, objectivity, and neutrality, analyzing only from a scientific perspective and without introducing any political viewpoints or stances.

You will gain a wealth of knowledge.

Do me favour can you educate the bafoons posters calling me cow dung worshipers and clowns constantly detailing this topic with completely irrelevant posts to follow this rule objectively please ... Because they insist on derailing the topic

 

[Michael]

Do me favour can you educate the bafoons posters calling me cow dung worshipers and clowns constantly detailing this topic with completely irrelevant posts to follow this rule objectively please ... Because they insist on derailing the topic

This is the responsibility and authority of MODS. I do not have such responsibility, nor do I have such authority.

 

[nahtanbob]

I couldn't care less what the Indians might claim.

The only reason is, the French offer massive kickbacks and others don't.

For the French, using corruption to fuel military sales is a fine art. And the Indians have always been corrupt to the core anyway.

Every military vendor pays kickbacks in one form or the other

 

[vasanthm]

France is building the engine, what's India going to do?

we will give call centre support

@harpy1

Why Rafales and not Su57 chosen​

If you truly want to know the answer to this question, and its deeper implications, I have a suggestion for you:

You are using multiple AI tools simultaneously for in-depth discussions. However, you must first add a paramount rule: maintain absolute rationality, objectivity, and neutrality, analyzing only from a scientific perspective and without introducing any political viewpoints or stances.

You will gain a wealth of knowledge.

BTW. After debating with several AIs for a long time, I came to the following conclusions:

India chose the Rafale not to win air battles, but to maintain a conflict scenario that is "controllable, non-escalatory, and politically justifiable domestically."
It is the optimal solution under political, organizational, and systemic constraints, not the optimal solution in a purely military sense.

A very nuanced post, a change from the usual my plane is bigger and better arguments you see here

 

[Michael]

A very nuanced post, a change from the usual my plane is bigger and better arguments you see here

You clearly didn't understand the true meaning of that sentence. It's far from what you imagined. ------ This statement is the AI's final conclusion.

However, your answer is "very Indian," which perfectly suits your identity.

 

[Corax]

You F16s parked in there eight of them btw
They hid the damage or tried

Why only 8? That shed looks big enough to house an entire squadron of F16s. You shouldn't underplay indian achievements, take more credit, it should be an entire squadron of Vipers destroyed in a single hit. Do you have pics of the destroyed Saab Erieye? don't modest, I think it was at least 3 destroyed, not 1.

 

[harpy1]

Why only 8? That shed looks big enough to house an entire squadron of F16s. You shouldn't underplay indian achievements, take more credit, it should be an entire squadron of Vipers destroyed in a single hit. Do you have pics of the destroyed Saab Erieye? don't modest, I think it was at least 3 destroyed, not 1.

Shall I ask chinease to do fake image ..They are wonderful at that sort of thing

 

[harpy1]

Shall I ask chinease to do fake image ..They are wonderful at that sort of thing

Quick question. If they are not on tarmac or the shelter were did you hide them then

Genuine question
Were did you fly them to safety

 

[harpy1]

https://www.aninews.in/news/national/general-news/4-to-5-fighter-aircraft-most-likely-f-16-destroyed-iaf-chief-air-chief-marshal-ap-singh-on-op-sindoor-success20251003130916

If they are not on bases were did you fly them too

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Bringing this back to thread

That was some 14 Rafales used in Sindoor out of 36 above
And token single strike not a full blown war effort

Now Imagine 175 fleet of even more potent Rafales both air force and navy which is why i think India chose more Rafales over su57 felon

That air defense and your lack of strategic depth will be tested to the limit i think

 

[onlinpunit]

Please delete posts dragging Operation Sindoor in this thread. @Fatman17 @Musings

 

[Fatman17]

Out of control and offtopic. Locked