Yemen Civil War News and Discussion.. an evolving situation

[abdulhaadi1988]

1. The West presents the narrative that they're proxies; the Iranians say no, they are allies. Iran does not have full control over them.

2. The Neo-cons have always wanted war with Iran, but they want the narrative '..we offered Iran a good deal, but they were unreasonable.'

3. The end of the resistance? No, this is the last hurrah of the West, look at the economic statistics. The death of the dollar, and the disassembling of Nato. Also the longer this war lasts, the weaker will become the whores of the West who rule us.

Regarding point 3, in which case it wont be the resistance that will end the West, it would be at their own hands as multipolarity takes effect, which will probably take some decades. Whatever it takes, though.

 

[LeGenD]

Isolation of Yemen? Like losing investors and warm relations with west?

Yemen was bombed for years more than all bombs of both world wars.

Yemen has very little to use when it comes to bombing and isolation.

Houthi were up against a Saudi-led coalition that was lacking in strategy and coherence. This is how they survived.

But USN is not Saudi-led coalition.

The Taliban are today the leading power in Afghanistan against US/NATO wish. That is a clear defeat.

Houthis are on another level. They are armed with advanced weapons and are a professional force.

I would be very careful if I were Israel/US. Remember that China and Russia would gladly join in to aid the Houthis.

Yes, but with acceptance from US/NATO in Doha Accords. The war was about defeating Al-Qaeda Network and it has been done. Taliban were supporting Al-Qaeda Network but they changed their tune after loosing 50,000+ fighters in various battles.

And US forces are armed with more advanced weapons than Houthi.

Saddam regime was also stronger than Houthi but it was destroyed in war.

Houthi need to be careful because Saddam regime in Iraq, Al-Qaeda Network in Afghanistan, Qaddafi regime in Libya, and ISIL movement in the Middle East have bitten the dust. Because US wanted this to happen. Let's not forget these defeats.

 

[abdulhaadi1988]

Following link:

IHL and Islam: An overview - Humanitarian Law & Policy Blog

With armed conflicts taking place in so many parts of the Muslim world, the Islamic law of war is as indispensable as ever for the protection of civilians and other persons hors de combat. Over the centuries, classical Muslim jurists have provided impressive legal literature, which, just as...

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Read and try to understand.

Those commercial ships are not manned by Israeli troops or enemy combatants but carry goods for different countries. Understand the difference.

Twisting religion is not my forte but yours. You have very conveniently boasted that Islam permits haram in times of war based on twisted interpretations of some scholars. This is a fasadi thought process. Keep it up though as this strategy will not be fruitful.

Israeli economy is not affected as it receives aid from the US to meet its needs. Israeli operation on Palestinian lands continue unabated. You will see the outcome eventually.

Of-course, your lack of comprehension of CEC is noted. You refuse to study and understand provided literature. Best of luck with your imaginary defeats of the US Navy in battles.

Firstly, nothing you could write would be difficult to understand, no offence.

The fact is they are trading with Israel, and they are free game in an economic war. Try to understand.

Repeating that lie which I never said and strawmanning me wont do you any favours, rather it makes you look desperate. As me and others have pointed out it is YOU who doesn't understand the religion and are lying upon the Prophet. I can bring scholars who back what I said that haram things can become permissible in times of necessity, not combat, necessity. Know the difference, I have been clear and it's all on record.

It is way too soon to draw conclusions on the effects of the actions of the Houthis, time will tell.

Again, throwing stones from glass houses regarding comprehension as you have not demonstrated once how a swarm tactic would work. Your "literature" has flaws and does not address swarm tactics, so any conclusion that you have drawn from what youve provided is also pure imagination. Something you clearly won't understand. Carry on underestimating the Muslims, that never worked out for anyone.

 

[LeGenD]

Firstly, nothing you could write would be difficult to understand, no offence.

The fact is they are trading with Israel, and they are free game in an economic war. Try to understand.

Repeating that lie which I never said and strawmanning me wont do you any favours, rather it makes you look desperate. As me and others have pointed out it is YOU who doesn't understand the religion and are lying upon the Prophet. I can bring scholars who back what I said that haram things can become permissible in times of necessity, not combat, necessity. Know the difference, I have been clear and it's all on record.

It is way too soon to draw conclusions on the effects of the actions of the Houthis, time will tell.

Again, throwing stones from glass houses regarding comprehension as you have not demonstrated once how a swarm tactic would work. Your "literature" has flaws and does not address swarm tactics, so any conclusion that you have drawn from it also pure imagination. Something you clearly won't understand. Carry on underestimating the Muslims, that never worked out for anyone.

I shall put this in simplest terms for you. Houthi strategy have failed to deter Israel and the US. Houthi are unable to defeat US Navy. No rocket science in this.

 

[925boy]

I think the history of the Houthi's is allot more complicated than that. They have for over 1000 years been contesting the land in and around Yemen. The world recognised their government in the early 20th century, but the Egyptians toppled their king and installed a puppet. At one point the Saudi's and Israeli's were backing them against Egypt. Saleh wasn't a good leader, he mis-ruled Yemen for over 30 years, eventually he was going to be toppled because people wanted better. Now it remains to be seen if they get better or worse. Yemen has been used and abused by the surrounding countries, the so-called muslim brothers and Israel. Its people have suffered tremendously including the Houthis who now rule most of Yemen.

Good points. And what does @LeGenD mean by Yemenis are backwards? what does that have to do with their right to their country, rules, beliefs territories, etc? Afghanistan was "backwards" too but they knew it was right to kick Neo-colonialist NATO out of their country, so Yemen being backwards has NOTHING to do with how they are now- thats even an underhanded way of say "Yemenis are stupid, they dont know better"- that is false and a supremacist demeaning way of looking at Yemeni people. Israel on the other hand keeps electing the same dictatorial leaders in circulation every election and no one says they are dictatorial or backwards, or supremacist, but they are. lets argue about facts not peoples.

 

[VCheng]

I shall put this in simplest terms for you. Houthi strategy have failed to deter Israel and the US. Houthi are unable to defeat US Navy. No rocket science in this.

Crows are white. And you can't change my mind Sir. So, there.

The results of this attempted blockade, or the lack thereof, will soon be evident. Why press the point already made and conceded by the other party, even if not overtly?

 

[abdulhaadi1988]

I shall put this in simplest terms for you. Houthi strategy have failed to deter Israel and the US. Houthi are unable to defeat US Navy.

I shall match that. I'll repeat (due to poor reading comprehension) it is too early to draw such conclusions. Houthis have already disrupted, and can sustain disruption to, international shipping to Israel, especially the longer this drags out.

 

[925boy]

Getting a lot of info on the web that a war with Yemen and Iran is now inevitable.


Any views?

Iran is ready, US is not, and no country that enters a war it is not ready for will win. US also cannot have any tangible win in a middle east war with a pathetic 70-100K soldiers when it needs at least 300-600K soldiers to have a chance to win a middle east war- so US is low on soliders and ammunition. Soon its navy will run from the red sea from fatigue and lack of readiness. I am at pain to know wtf US DoD is using an almost $1trn defense budget to do! US cant beat rag tag forces anymore- so many militias are waiting for their beating but US keeps giving them occasional hits, and then begging and negotiating with Iran on the back end, because it knows it can't fight a real middle east war and win.

 

[abdulhaadi1988]

conceded by the other party, even if not overtly?

Evidence?

(Ps Arctic Crows are white by the way lol...)

 

[925boy]

Any widening of the conflict would be a tragic mistake.

By who? US! call it what it is. US will be the reason the Gaza war expands- its attack on Yemen also opened up more war for the region.

 

[925boy]

Getting mixed messages. Everybody is saying that they don't want to widen the war, but acting the opposite.

sharp comment here.

US/Nato forces in the middle east are massive.

massive in numbers or massive in fighting ability? 100K US soldiers in the region is not enough for a middle east war, which would have a ground forces component. If US starts and then stops the war, it loses.

The Israelis and their Neo-con (fifth column) in the US have always wanted a war with Iran.

but US has always known it was likely to lose it, so it stayed away from it. US military of today is the weakest its been in decades- US is also more or less broke, so also no $$ to fight an Iran war- US gave that $$ to Ukraine..then to Israel. US cant give Ukraine $1 more today as we speak.

There will never be a better time for them.

there will never be a better time for them to lose the biggest war the quickest. i hope ur joking. US couldnt even send 1 MEU to rescue its people from Sudan when conflict broke out.

We are literally on the edge.

agreed

 

[LeGenD]

I shall match that. I'll repeat (due to poor reading comprehension) it is too early to draw such conclusions. Houthis have already disrupted, and can sustain disruption to, international shipping to Israel, especially the longer this drags out.

Temporary battlefield effects. The side that was supposed to be deterred is not.

 

[jamal18]

Iran is ready, US is not, and no country that enters a war it is not ready for will win. US also cannot have any tangible win in a middle east war with a pathetic 70-100K soldiers when it needs at least 300-600K soldiers to have a chance to win a middle east war- so US is low on soliders and ammunition. Soon its navy will run from the red sea from fatigue and lack of readiness. I am at pain to know wtf US DoD is using an almost $1trn defense budget to do! US cant beat rag tag forces anymore- so many militias are waiting for their beating but US keeps giving them occasional hits, and then begging and negotiating with Iran on the back end, because it knows it can't fight a real middle east war and win.

It's a widely accepted belief. However, any force that can literally fire hundreds of modern missiles can't be taken lightly. Do they need to land troops there? Massive damage to Iran through bombardment, not to mention tactical nukes.

Yes Iran is powerful, but it is a new era in naval combat and nothing is guaranteed.

 

[abdulhaadi1988]

Temporary battlefield effects. The side that was supposed to be deterred is not.

Economic wars take time to have an effect.

 

[925boy]

Houthi strategy have failed to deter Israel and the US.

If this is true, then why did US have to jump into a conflict with Houthis to protect ISrael? Houthis succesfully emptied Eilat port and reduced trade with Israel- i think reality proves you wrong.

Houthi are unable to defeat US Navy.

Did you say or think Afghans would be unable to defeat US army before they did? you cant conclude on something that is still being concuded- nobody knows the future. I can turn around and say the US military and navy are unable to deter the Houthis,because despite all teh US and NATO threats, Houthis have stuck to their military and political policies v is-a-vis Israel. We do not see that NATO or US strikes have now changed the Houthis behavior. US foolishly entered this conflict it has a geographical disadvantage in , just like in Afghanistan.