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Do you think PTI has a future without Imran Khan?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 19.6%
  • No

    Votes: 80 71.4%
  • Only if senior leadership is released

    Votes: 10 8.9%

  • Total voters
    112
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It did NOT, only certain excerpts, selectively, and even that was certainly not verified. IK had the opportunity to set the record straight, but he chose not to do so because it would have exposed his lies about the entire matter.

The cabinet minutes were never published, and press briefing was just more spin aimed at serving IK's goal of desperately trying to hold on to power.

He failed totally and miserably.
you are in a denial mode, some people won't accept it even if Donald Lu himself reveals the details . Here is the link you can read the cypher yourself. If IK and Intercept lied then sue them to humiliate and bankrupt them like the generals sued Adil Raja in the UK...
 
More like his own party members turned on him during VONC.

The entire fiasco did Pakistan a huge favour.

Afghan refugees are being deported. taliban are being held accountable for their attrocities in Pakistan over the last 20 years.

Strong relations with the big 3, China, Russia, US.

Defect pact with Saudi.

Asim Munir v Faiz as army chief. Fauj is in excellent hands.

Pakistanis should be very grateful.

Tell me honestly other than the handshakes and photo ops what have these "strong relations" brought us? Did we even export any minerals or bring in any kind of new investment ? We were getting J-20 fighters and TPS-77 radars even in IK time?

Will the Saudis actually come and fight for us if we are attacked?

Why is it so easy to fool you guys man.
 
you are in a denial mode, some people won't accept it even if Donald Lu himself reveals the details . Here is the link you can read the cypher yourself. If IK and Intercept lied then sue them to humiliate and bankrupt them like the generals sued Adil Raja in the UK...


LOL. Why would I need to deny anything when the results speak for themselves? IK tried, and he lied and lied. And he failed to hold on to power despite his tries and lies. He got what he deserved in the end and that is good enough for me.

What's more, even the blatant anti-Americanism that he stoked as part of his fraudulent claims has largely died down too, since it was based on his lies.

Nope, I have no need to do anything here. :D
 
LOL. Why would I need to deny anything when the results speak for themselves? IK tried, and he lied and lied. And he failed to hold on to power despite his tries and lies. He got what he deserved in the end and that is good enough for me.

What's more, even the blatant anti-Americanism that he stoked as part of his fraudulent claims has largely died down too, since it was based on his lies.

Nope, I have no need to do anything here. :D
lol at what? if that was your mic drop moment then I'm still waiting for the mic to fall. You didn't say anything new and just repeated the same anti-IK rhetoric that another dictatorship supporter was parroting earlier. You didn't answer my question, why isn't your leadership suing The Intercept into bankruptcy if they really have published a fake document that violated the national security?
 
why isn't your leadership suing The Intercept into bankruptcy if they really have published a fake document that violated the national security?

Why would USA need to be suing anybody about a wannabe-dictator-ul-momineen demagogue from a third world country lying to stay in power? He lied. He failed. He jailed. End of story from the US perspective.

And since that sorry debacle, Pakistan has achieved significant progress in mending relations with USA that IK so selfishly tried to destroy.

That is what really matters, actually.
 
Why would USA need to be suing anybody about a wannabe-dictator-ul-momineen demagogue from a third world country lying to stay in power? He lied. He failed. He jailed. End of story from the US perspective.

And since that sorry debacle, Pakistan has achieved significant progress in mending relations with USA that IK so selfishly tried to destroy.

That is what really matters, actually.
See, you just revealed your true colors after that failed mic‑drop attempt you’d been trying to hide for so long…it’s the same old anti‑IK rhetoric all over again.
 
See, you just revealed your true colors after that failed mic‑drop attempt you’d been trying to hide for so long…it’s the same old anti‑IK rhetoric all over again.


LOL. I have no animosity towards IK at all. I have always seen him for what he really was all along - just another temporarily useful pawn created, and then removed, by the same puppet masters that have done it again and again at so many times in Pakistan's history.

That is the sad reality of power politics in Pakistan today. Please note specifically that I regard the current setup to be the same illegal obscenity as the ones prior, IK, NS, BB, SS included.

To me, rhetoric for or against any one of these pawns is utterly useless. They are not the root cause of what ails Pakistan, but only the overt symptom of it.

Please never forget what I have said above. I am not your, or IK's enemy. I only say what is the sad truth in this matter, honestly and without fear or favor to anyone.
 
Tell me honestly other than the handshakes and photo ops what have these "strong relations" brought us? Did we even export any minerals or bring in any kind of new investment ? We were getting J-20 fighters and TPS-77 radars even in IK time?

Will the Saudis actually come and fight for us if we are attacked?

Why is it so easy to fool you guys man.
There is never a free meal in life , that's your answer and a life lesson.
You look at Pakistan economy and you tell me What's Pakistan's leverage in international stage.
What do you expect from a leader of a economy which is dependent on imf.
Off course they will listen to America
Get real in life don't be so idealistic that you leave the realm of reality
 
There is never a free meal in life , that's your answer and a life lesson.
You look at Pakistan economy and you tell me What's Pakistan's leverage in international stage.
What do you expect from a leader of a economy which is dependent on imf.
Off course they will listen to America
Get real in life don't be so idealistic that you leave the realm of reality

Please name the benefits brought by this new cringe boot licking diplomacy.

Keep in mind that US, Saudi, China were all giving us Aid and weapons even in Khan tenure so what is new? Even IMF we have been to 20+ times.
 
Please name the benefits brought by this new cringe boot licking diplomacy.

Keep in mind that US, Saudi, China were all giving us Aid and weapons even in Khan tenure so what is new? Even IMF we have been to 20+ times.
Please first name benefits of imran
 
No you can not answer , I can clearly see my country doing the same as it was doing in Imran khan tenure ,but the noise is less for this government

Khan left in April 2021. From then till now in November 2025 you mean to tell me our biggest achievement is "noise is less" ? What does that even mean.
 
LOL. I have no animosity towards IK at all. I have always seen him for what he really was all along - just another temporarily useful pawn created, and then removed, by the same puppet masters that have done it again and again at so many times in Pakistan's history.

That is the sad reality of power politics in Pakistan today. Please note specifically that I regard the current setup to be the same illegal obscenity as the ones prior, IK, NS, BB, SS included.

To me, rhetoric for or against any one of these pawns is utterly useless. They are not the root cause of what ails Pakistan, but only the overt symptom of it.

Please never forget what I have said above. I am not your, or IK's enemy. I only say what is the sad truth in this matter, honestly and without fear or favor to anyone.
Of course you hate IK and that is the only reason you support corrupt establishment and their pawns. My turn to ask questions now, did Asim Munir break his oath and violate the constitution of Pakistan or not? be honest and don't deflect with your rhetoric.
 
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the only reason you support corrupt establishment

Absolutely not! Where have I ever supported the corrupt establishment?! NEVER.

And that remains your fundamental and emotional flaw. Anyone who does not admire IK as you do is NOT your enemy or necessarily support the corrupt establishment.

Can you please understand that basic concept before we engage any further? Thanks.
 
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