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[Respect4Respect]

Because he is not the topic of this thread. IK is.

Discussing IK without mentioning his opponents and their role in politics makes no sense. What do you want me to do, analyze his jail diet or reading list? And let’s be clear friend, even if Asim Munir isn’t the thread’s focus, he’s still a "traitor". Treason is the ultimate crime and no traitor deserves respect.

 

[newb3e]

LOL. He was the pawn chosen to lead the false drama of tabdeeli simply to get the previous pawn out

respectfully this is such a bs claim!!

if he was installed by support of fraud chowkidars his support would have died because it wont be organic but his support base is still strong infact so strong the great chowkidar e marshal raat lo diggi kay beth keh bheek mangay jaa raha hai...distorting laws just to keep IK out of the race keep him jailed..to discredit peopled elected CM wazeer e information of chowkidar party had to do press conference!!

his support is and always was organic yes he made mistakes yes he accepted his mistakes and hopefully by staying in jail (and out soon insha Allah) and not running like great leader like Nawaz shareef Bhuttos turd hopefully he will repent and not repeat the same mistake!!

now you can come up with your cute khaki reply we shall see and we shall see insha Allah khakis on pike!

 

[Forsvaret]

"Long game"? Is this what you call his strategy? Please explain this concept to me in more detail. Thanks.

Imran Khan’s current strategy seems to echo that of Nelson Mandela of South Africa—who spent years behind bars until the ruling apartheid government was forced to reconcile with him in the end.
This strategy might or might not work, given what happened to late Bhutto while in imprisonment. So it remains to be seen what the eventual outcome of Imran Khan’s strategy would be.

 

[newb3e]

Thats your tunnel vision understanding of the "off topic". Please pay attention when I said, that IK cannot be discussed in vacuum without his main political rival sitting in GHQ.

like his chowkidar lord abusing law and power he is doign the same!! this chowkidari forum will only favor those who chant "meri jind meri jaaan" and cry shaheed shaheed when thugs are killed doing their occupier duty+

 

[Taimoor]

LOL. I am pointing out is the fact that the will of the people can be stopped only up to a point, and never beyond that.

If enough people want change, then change cannot be stopped, no matter how heavy handed or brutal the suppression. How that change is achieved, gradually, or suddenly, with or with disruption, is a byproduct of how educated and civilized a society is.

That is all.

Will of the people have been supressed even in western countries. Al Gore won against Bush. Trump, by the looks of it, may have won the election before last one as well. Maybe we are actually civilized people who dont want to take the route of chaos and mayhem, have you ever thought about that?

 

[VCheng]

And let’s be clear friend, even if Asim Munir isn’t the thread’s focus, he’s still a "traitor". Treason is the ultimate crime and no traitor deserves respect.

Agreed 100%.

However, I will choose to remain within forum rules. You may of course do whatever you wish on this matter.

 

[VCheng]

Imran Khan’s current strategy seems to echo that of Nelson Mandela of South Africa—who spent years behind bars until the ruling apartheid government was forced to reconcile with him in the end.
This strategy might or might not work, given what happened to late Bhutto while in imprisonment. So it remains to be seen what the eventual outcome of Imran Khan’s strategy would be.

Mandela's strategy worked only after 27 years and with lots of popular and international support.

Whether IK will succeed in a similar strategy, if indeed this is what he is doing in your view, or not, remains to be seen, especially how long it might take, given his current age.

Good luck to him!

 

[VCheng]

Maybe we are actually civilized people who dont want to take the route of chaos and mayhem

Really? Was IK's dharna or May 9 a good example of this claim?

 

[Respect4Respect]

Agreed 100%.

However, I will choose to remain within forum rules. You may of course do whatever you wish on this matter.

Okay, but rules should apply equally. IK is just another person like the rest of us and can’t be expected to be perfect. At the end of the day treason is the ultimate crime anyone can commit against their own nation. As we agreed earlier, the real focus should be on the treasonous termites hollowing the country from within.

 

[VCheng]

if he was installed by support of fraud chowkidars his support would have died because it wont be organic but his support base is still strong infact so strong

.... so strong that IK has decreed widespread nationwide protests multiple times and has failed to get enough people to show up to make a difference. Every time thus far. Yawn.

 

[VCheng]

Okay, but rules should apply equally. IK is just another person like the rest of us and can’t be expected to be perfect. At the end of the day treason is the ultimate crime anyone can commit against their own nation. As we agreed earlier, the real focus should be on the treasonous termites hollowing the country from within.

Then please make another thread on that topic to put the focus wherever you wish.

 

[Respect4Respect]

Then please make another thread on that topic to put the focus wherever you wish.

My dear friend, I’m pointing out your selective focus and criticism. A "traitor" has taken over the country, and in such times wasting energy on criticizing a jailed politician instead of defending the nation is misplaced.

 

[Taimoor]

Really? Was IK's dharna or May 9 a good example of this claim?

You have issues with political protest? Dharnas are very much part of Pakistani political scene since time immortal. I am actually confused by your ideas, maybe they are borderline bloody revolution?

 

[Distant_Observer]

OOeeeyy retard... READ first and give rest to your itching fingers. I am NOT the one suggesting revolution, your fellow disguised #fanofasimmuneer is.

And that is THE reason where IK has been calling for peaceful protest against the these tyrants in GHQ. Pakistan simply cannot afford a bloody revolution. And this weakness of Pakistan is known by these generals and they exploit it.

They usually target the military of a country first to weaken. That's why you are non stop targeting the fauj knowing full well there are enemies at the gates on both sides.

Once the military is out of the way then comes the referendums for balkanization on ethnic lines.

Usually led by a WEF puppet who is gifted a young Jewish bride and trained and funded for decades for this objective.

 

[Forsvaret]

Mandela's strategy worked only after 27 years and with lots of popular and international support.

Whether IK will succeed in a similar strategy, if indeed this is what he is doing in your view, or not, remains to be seen, especially how long it might take, given his current age.

Good luck to him!

If Imran Khan succeeds in this strategy before his death, then it’s all well & good. If not, he will die a martyr and military establishment would have to deal with its aftershocks for decades to come. So either way, it’s a win-win scenario for Imran in the long run.