PTI News, Updates and Discussion

[hasssanali8998]

Please not this again. PTI wasn’t creating militant groups with CIA funding or playing the Good Taliban, Bad Taliban game. India has always been and will remain Pakistan’s arch enemy.
If Asim Muneer has decided to become illegitimate son of Netanyahu then why hate Talibans?

nice deflection as always , someone says something call them Zionists and American puppets

 

[Taimoor]

Again - a typical “I dont have an answer so I an going to throw a tantrum and go home” statement. Good example of who you are as an individual.
Your hypocrisy is everyone’s problem

I gave the answer, you didnt understand, your stupidiy is not my or anyone concern. keep on honking non sense.

 

[Respect4Respect]

nice deflection as always , someone says something call them Zionists and American puppets

i replied with a full paragraph and you picked just one sentence to nitpick...lol

 

[hasssanali8998]

i replied with a full paragraph and you picked just one sentence to nitpick...lol

because those points have been discussed to death yet you still bring them up , also we literally went against USand supported Taliban against Americans yet we are still puppets , we created them to fight a enemy at that time USSR then they decided to blow up a tower in NY

 

[Oscar]

Please not this again. PTI wasn’t creating militant groups with CIA funding or playing the Good Taliban, Bad Taliban game. India has always been and will remain Pakistan’s arch enemy.
If Asim Muneer has decided to become illegitimate son of Netanyahu then why hate Talibans?

That is a fair statement - only if you pointed out that IK was fully in support of Afghan Jihad in the 80s and went to fundraisers during his flamboyant days as well.

However, the whole create militant groups isn’t purely a Zia or Establishment crime since pretty much every party(other than some predecessors of ANP and certain PPP diehards) supported the Afghan Insurgency.

Your entire relationship with the Saudis blossomed most during this period.

So I understand selective history helps your political PoV and yes there is complete truth to the establishment (which isn’t just the military but the combination of feudals, businessmen and good ol boy bureaucrats centering around specific areas of northern Punjab) enabling the continuous development of a “extremist suicidal believer” in FATA and Afghanistan - even then, clear outlines that would help end this were shuttered by IK(with advice from his political and certain pauji allies) which led to good, competent, motivated people with pure KP origins also leaving his government.

He openly stymied programs during his tenure and when he could have ANYTHING done in KP due to his hold because either his appointments or local agents who were afraid of losing power to such proposed reforms - reforms that came from those born and bred in KP and FATA - got to his ear.

 

[Taimoor]

That is rather hypocritical don’t you think?
Which is technically fine considering politics is hypocrisy incarnate but then what would IK do with Afridi or other pro-Afghan members of his party who object to it.

How its hypocritical? Policy made by civilian presentative is how it should be. Good or bad, it will have ownership followed by consequences.
Pro-Afghan? Thats In your head. Bottom line is, not just in KPK but all over Pakistan, people are suspicious of Muneera and Co, and their motives, rightly so. Thats why its imperative that this current highly toxic and political army leadership needs to go.

 

[Respect4Respect]

because those points have been discussed to death yet you still bring them up , also we literally went against USand supported Taliban against Americans yet we are still puppets , we created them to fight a enemy at that time USSR then they decided to blow up a tower in NY

That’s not a valid point. By your logic every argument on Earth has been repeated millions of times does that mean we stop discussing them? Just because something’s been debated before doesn’t make it irrelevant.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Thats why its imperative that this current highly toxic and political army leadership needs to go.

ok then prepare to speak hindi


sorry u live in uk , u will be safe

 

[Taimoor]

Afghan Jihad in the 80s and went to fundraisers during his flamboyant days as well.

What Afghan Jihad of 80s got to do with Taliban movement?

So I understand selective history helps your political PoV

PTI didnt even existed since your fanboys in GHQ were playing their strategic depth games.

 

[Oscar]

I gave the answer, you didnt understand, your stupidiy is not my or anyone concern. keep on honking non sense.

At this point - you’re the only one who is sounding what you accuse everyone else who disagrees with you of(wonder where those traits got developed over the years ).

Because if you cannot acknowledge that you calling Shahid Afridi having no connection to KP because he was born in Karachi isn’t applicable to Imran Khan having no connection to KP because he was born in Lahore - then you are a hypocrite.

Whether IKs onwards history changes the “level” of connection is gauged by their respective contributions - which would have been fine if you said that.

But because you are a ghumand jahil - you have no better intelligent input to provide other than dodgy statements.

 

[Taimoor]

ok then prepare to speak hindi


sorry u live in uk , u will be safe

you are a waste of space. How old are you?

 

[hasssanali8998]

@os

That’s not a valid point. By your logic every argument on Earth has been repeated millions of times does that mean we stop discussing them? Just because something’s been debated before doesn’t make it irrelevant.

Yeah, but repeating the same points without adding anything new isn’t a discussion , it’s a rerun. I’m not dodging the topic, I’m just not going to keep debating stuff that’s already been broken down a hundred times unless you’ve got something fresh to add.

 

[hasssanali8998]

you are a waste of space

aww take me on a date first

 

[Oscar]

What Afghan Jihad of 80s got to do with Taliban movement?



PTI didnt even existed since your fanboys in GHQ were playing their strategic depth games.

That first sentence of yours - even total Bhaktora fanboys arent that selective.

Tell me - When was CIA involved in Afghanistan?
How did the original Taliban appear - I really want to see what brilliance you come up with here.

 

[Respect4Respect]

That is a fair statement - only if you pointed out that IK was fully in support of Afghan Jihad in the 80s and went to fundraisers during his flamboyant days as well.

However, the whole create militant groups isn’t purely a Zia or Establishment crime since pretty much every party(other than some predecessors of ANP and certain PPP diehards) supported the Afghan Insurgency.

Your entire relationship with the Saudis blossomed most during this period.

So I understand selective history helps your political PoV and yes there is complete truth to the establishment (which isn’t just the military but the combination of feudals, businessmen and good ol boy bureaucrats centering around specific areas of northern Punjab) enabling the continuous development of a “extremist suicidal believer” in FATA and Afghanistan - even then, clear outlines that would help end this were shuttered by IK(with advice from his political and certain pauji allies) which led to good, competent, motivated people with pure KP origins also leaving his government.

He openly stymied programs during his tenure and when he could have ANYTHING done in KP due to his hold because either his appointments or local agents who were afraid of losing power to such proposed reforms - reforms that came from those born and bred in KP and FATA - got to his ear.

i agree with you on most points and selective history cuts both ways. If we’re going to hold IK accountable for stalling reforms, we should also acknowledge the decades of policy failures that created the mess in the first place. Let’s not shift the entire burden onto one civilian government while letting the deeper power structures off the hook.