Pakistan Constitutional Amendments:

@Abdul q

Sorry to hear that, bro.

I have a contrarian view, Abdul bro. Pakistan has been dominated by the military since 1958. Best to recognise that in the Constitution so that there is no ambiguity.

Regards
 
The standing committees on law and justice of both houses of Parliament approved on Sunday the draft of a bill for a 27th Constitutional Amendment after some changes, Senator Farooq H. Naek told reporters after a meeting that was convened to deliberate on the proposed changes.

He said that he and Law Minister Azam Nazeer Tarar had been authorised to make changes to some clauses of the bill, without sharing anymore details about the said clauses.

Alongside him, Tarar said they would submit a report on the proposals finalised by the committees to the Senate tomorrow (Monday).

The bill for Constitution (Twenty-Seventh Amendment) Act, 2025 was tabled before the Senate yesterday, hours after it was approved by the federal cabinet, triggering noisy protests from the opposition over the pace and scope of the proposed changes.

That initial draft of the bill proposed the creation of a Federal Constitutional Court (FCC), changes to the appointment process for high court judges, a higher cap on provincial cabinets, and changes to the military leadership structure.

Subsequently, the bill was referred to the Senate’s and National Assembly’s Committees on Law and Justice for further deliberation. The committees had met for the purpose yesterday, and the session was reconvened today.

Senate Committee on Law and Justice Chairperson Senator Farooq H. Naek and his counterpart for the National Assembly panel, MNA Chaudhry Mahmood Bashir Virk, co-chaired today’s meeting.






Lawmakers of the PTI, the Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F) and Majlis Wahdat-i-Muslimeen (MWM), meanwhile, continued their boycott of the parliamentary committee today.

Tarar and Minister of State for Law and Justice Barrister Aqeel Malik were also among those who participated in today’s meeting. Deputy Prime Minister and PML-N leader Ishaq Dar, too, briefly attended the proceedings.

PML-N Senator Khalil Tahir Sindhu, Awami National Party’s (ANP) Hidayatullah Khan, and PPP MNAs Kasim Gilani and Syed Abrar Ali Shah were also part of the joint moot, while PML-N MNA Shumaila Rana attended via video link.

Earlier, when the meeting was paused for lunch break, Naek said while speaking to the media that “discussions on three points were yet to be completed — transfers of cases from one high court to another high court, transfer of judges from high court to another high court and Article 243 (command of the armed forces).”

The discussion on these matters would be resumed after lunch, he said, adding that some objections had been raised pertaining to the transfer of judges and cases.

“Discussions are ongoing regarding this and it is hoped that a consensus will be reached,” he further stated.

Prior to today’s meeting, when Naek was asked about suggestions made by various ruling allies and whether “two parties had come face to face on the immunity for the president and prime minister”, the PPP senator had affirmed that all parties had a right to voice their opinion.

Noting that the proposals of the PML-N and the Muttahida Qaumi Movement-Pakistan (MQM-P) would be considered in today’s meeting, Naek said, “Decisions will be taken based on whatever the majority’s opinion is.”

During another break, ANP’s Hidayatullah Khan had told reporters that the committee had sought time until tomorrow to decide on his party’s suggestion for changing the name of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

Meanwhile, Tarar had told reporters it was decided that provinces be taken into confidence on changing the province’s name. MQM-P’s suggestion regarding local governments was also discussed, he added.

Earlier, Tarar had said the joint committees had completed “85 per cent of the work” and expressed the hope that the deliberations would be over by the evening.

He had also highlighted PM Shehbaz Sharif’s directives issued earlier today to withdraw the amendments proposing legal immunity for premiers.

Referring to the JUI-F’s absence, the law minister had stated its members had informed the committee yesterday about their party’s policy. He emphasised that parliamentary parties should utilise their right to vote, rather than boycotting the process altogether.

After yesterday’s meeting, Tarar had told reporters that all parliamentary parties were participating in the process and that the government had also “requested the opposition to contribute constructively”.

“Till the time we do not reach a consensus, from all members of both Houses, the discussions will continue,” the law minister had said.





Prior to today’s meeting, it was reported that the standing committees were likely to finalise the mechanism for the transfer of high court judges through the Judicial Commission of Pakistan (JCP) — a process which may not require the consent of the judges being transferred.

The panels cleared nearly 80 per cent of the proposed bill yesterday in a joint in-camera meeting, including most clauses of the judicial reforms package. But deliberations on the field marshal’s status under Article 243 (command of the armed forces) of the Constitution were deferred to today.






The opposition alliance Tehreek Tahafuz-i-Ayeen-i-Pakistan (TTAP), which includes the PTI, has announced a nationwide protest movement against the 27th Amendment, urging the people to take a stand against the “extremely dark and dangerous” change in the Constitution.

PTI parliamentary leader Barrister Ali Zafar has contended that the debate on the bill was inappropriate in the absence of a notified leader of the opposition. He accused the government and its allies of being in a “hurry” to pass the amendments.






“These amendments strike at the very foundation of the constitutional structure by undermining the independence of the judiciary and eroding the delicate balance of powers that the 1973 Constitution so carefully created,” he told Dawn.

However, the PML-N and the PPP have rejected the impression that the 27th Amendment bill was rushed through without proper debate, saying the draft has undergone “extensive scrutiny”.

Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif had held consultations with multiple ruling allies on Thursday, meeting with the top leadership of the MQM-P, the PML-Q, the Istehkam-i-Pakistan Party (IPP), the Balochistan Awami Party (BAP), the ANP and the PML-Zia.

However, no meeting was reported between the government and the PTI.
 
@Abdul q

Sorry to hear that, bro.

I have a contrarian view, Abdul bro. Pakistan has been dominated by the military since 1958. Best to recognise that in the Constitution so that there is no ambiguity.

Regards
This forum is in ruins… deals you the exact same way the army would in Pakistan.. perhaps they don’t realise this isn’t Pakistan but a small site with few traffic…. Maybe admins will be prosecuted if they let us speak our minds here??
 
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@HAIDER sb

I am speechless...i always pray for Quaid and his sister Fatima Jinnah' that's all.

As you can see from my nic, I am a devotee of our beloved Qaid (RA); but this is not the Qaids Pakistan any more. The Qaids Pakistan died with him.

Regards
 
They deserve this… I saw this coming.. only escape is just escape the country….. 😭😭😭😭
 
Agent Yahya broke Pakistan and Agent Asim is on mission to do it again
on a bigger scale.

He has bowed down to Donald and Netanyahu. He will soon drag Pakistan
into a war with Afghanistan.

Indians and Israeli's with the blessings of Trump will carry out attack from other
side. With the Air force under Agent Asim the only response will be the same as after
Abbottabad raid.
 
@HAIDER sb

I believe Pakistan will be better off modifying the Constitution to reflect the real power balance in Pak polity. It may seem distasteful at the beginning, but it will be for the greater good.

IMHO, the entire chaos starts because the COAS invariably seeks a second term in office (with a desire to serve the country as long as possible) and for that, he needs the consent of the PM. In turn, he needs a pliable PM, so he is forced to intervene in politics. Therefore, what is needed and is certainly doable is to make the Pak military a completely autonomous institution. So that neither the COAS nor the PM have either any opportunity or need to intervene in each other's domain.

1. The COAS can be made the Chief of Defence Staff in charge of not only the three forces but also paramilitary forces and the intelligence agencies. A committee under the CDS can be responsible for all recruitment, appointments and promotions in the three services.

2. A fixed share of the budget should be assured to the Armed Forces (including intel and paramilitary) and they can spend it without civilian oversight.

3. The paramilitary forces and their deployment in Pakistan Azaad Kashmir, Balochistan and KPK should be controlled by the CDS.

4. The CDS should decide how many 5-year terms he wants to serve as the CDS.

In return for this, the Fauj must stop interfering in civilian matters and politics.

Regards

@Master Chief @mythbuster @Dalit @ghazi52

I agree. We need to move forward as a nation, our army interferes because the civilians are corrupt to the core, the politicians are incompetence and dacoits. Not saying the army is perfect but they are the most disciplined and professionals. We are a poor nation, we cannot afford to change our international/national policies every 5 years when a new government comes to power. Possibly Pakistan needs a new constitution, let the armed forces share what kind of powers they want, so that they stop their interference and toppling PMs and governments. I ofcourse support Allama Iqbal vision of Pakistan but it hasn't worked so far because of incompetence by those in charge. To be frank all these changes do not effect the working/middle class/poor, it only effects the highest level of the state. We need stability, peaceful transfer of power so we can rise as a powerful nation. I don't believe any PM has completed 5 years of his tenure, that is crazy.
 
Agent Yahya broke Pakistan and Agent Asim is on mission to do it again
on a bigger scale.

He has bowed down to Donald and Netanyahu. He will soon drag Pakistan
into a war with Afghanistan.

Indians and Israeli's with the blessings of Trump will carry out attack from other
side. With the Air force under Agent Asim the only response will be the same as after
Abbottabad raid.
Got bannned for saying it… might get it again… lol
 
@PakAl

Well-written, sir and explains Pakistan's dilemma well.

I don't believe any PM has completed 5 years of his tenure, that is crazy.

Barring ZAB. And the whole thing boils down to the insecurity of the COAS- that he holds the post at the pleasure of the President (indirectly the PM and Parliament). Once the COAS knows that he is secure, he would have little interest in toppling the political executive.

Regards
 

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