AMCA vs KAAN vs KF-21 India Turkey & Korea’s Fighter Jets Battle For Air Supremacy—Who Leads The Pack? OP-ED

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If I said, "We will design and produce 5-nanometer-class processors within 10 years," you distinguished Chinese members would probably tell me to "get out of my sight," and you'd be absolutely right!

Since we lack 40 years of production experience, expert staff, and a well-established ecosystem in processor manufacturing, completing this in 10 years is impossible. Building the expertise I mentioned would take at least two generations. However, when it comes to turbofan engines, we're not in this situation purely by chance.

To start, we have a skilled team with an impressive 40-year track record of producing nearly flawless engine parts. The most challenging task in this regard is actually establishing this flawless production culture. This is what takes time, in this task.

Secondly, contrary to what some might believe on this forum (like @NGAD IS THE BEST), we don’t merely assemble the GE F110 engines; we manufacture all their components except for the combustion chamber. Additionally, we handle factory-level maintenance for the same engine. While the GE F110 engine is a relatively old design, it provides us with valuable insights into what a high-performance turbofan engine should be like.

For the past 15 years, we've been deeply involved in materials science research. On top of that, we've built a complete ecosystem to manufacture turbofan engines, right down to the oil pump. Simply put, this isn’t new territory for us.​


By combining our research and accumulated experience and the complete ecosystem, we also understanding the principles of the components we haven't yet developed with the TF-10000 engine. If we aimed to create an engine similar to the GE F110, we could fully design and produce it, including the hot section. This is why we skipped designing an engine in the 20,000 lbf class and moved straight to the 35,000 lbf class.

Could things still go terribly wrong? Yes, it's possible. As I said, we won't have to wait long. We'll all see what lies ahead by the end of 2026. I will remain silent on this issue until the end of 2026.
 
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So you're compromising safety of the pilot and airframe of the jet for testing on KAAN that early and skipping international standard for developing turbofan ( bench/ground testing then testbed testing) for perfecting/tweaking the engine

I'm afraid to say installing un-mature and unfinished engine on its intended platform could bring something really really bad to KAAN (accident/incident)

You know it but TEI doesnt know

Who are you? What title do you hold? Have you ever seen an engine or an airplane up close?

TAI nd TEI will do everything before the first flight by KAAN
 
Stop pushing your luck. He is a respected member and mod that follows rules to the later. Debate with respect especially with ALL mods or i may have to remove you from the thread….

İf he is a respected member and MOD then he should be neutral instead of taking a side

DEINO says stupid , shut the f.ck up , etc to me
I am reporting him but Fatman17 doing nothing .. On the contrary, he deletes my posts to support DEINO and Chinese users

Please manage the MODs well and never let them stop being fair to anyone.
Thanks
 
You know it but TEI doesnt know

Who are you? What title do you hold? Have you ever seen an engine or an airplane up close?

TAI nd TEI will do everything before the first flight by KAAN
II saw fighter jets up to close when you're a baby boy, I sat a cockpit of a F-16 in Pakistan in an airshow on the event of Pakistani defense day celebrations back in 99

And also where is the radar/avionics testbed for KAAN's radar and avionics? I can show you images of RADAR/avionics testbeds of F-22/F-35 or you have better tech than USA?
 
i am locking this thread till tempers go down a little bit, a lot can be communicate with each other without "mine is bigger than yours" attitude
 
İf he is a respected member and MOD then he should be neutral instead of taking a side

DEINO says stupid , shut the f.ck up , etc to me
I am reporting him but Fatman17 doing nothing .. On the contrary, he deletes my posts to support DEINO and Chinese users

Please manage the MODs well and never let them stop being fair to anyone.
Thanks
Did you ever think the mods only have an issue with you and you are the only one having issue with the mods? Its always your exaggeration about Turkey being a world power - bigger than Russian Chinese and USA in every capacity? Bigger stronger longer bla bla bla? People get frustrated and bored with your blind patriotism and nonsense citations and links. Just give it a friggen rest and calm it down. Dont take Turkish criticism personally.
 
do you installed avionics/radars for KAAN on 6000 and starts testing it?
I’m not sure, but I do know that the Murad 100a AESA radar, a smaller version of Kaan's Murad 600 AESA radar, along with the lower versions of Kaan's sensors (like the EOTS sensor for Kızılelma), are currently being tested on our F-16s and at Kızılelma. Even the GOKDOĞAN AA missile was launched from an F-16 Block 30 equipped with the Murad 100a AESA radar last October.

So, the components you mentioned must already be undergoing tests on Bombardier. Otherwise, why would they install similar components on active flying aircraft?
 
I’m not sure, but I do know that the Murad 100a AESA radar, a smaller version of Kaan's Murad 600 radar, along with the lower versions of Kaan's sensors (like the EOTS sensor for Kızılelma), are currently being tested on our F-16s and at Kızılelma. Even the GOKDOĞAN AA missile was launched from an F-16 Block 30 equipped with the Murad 100a AESA radar last October.

So, the components you mentioned must already be undergoing tests on Bombardier. Otherwise, why would they install similar components on active flying aircraft?
Thank you brother for your kind response
 
People bored with your anti-Turkiye propaganda
always You and same MODS including DEINO
on the other hand , Waz and Mr.X never take anti-Turkiye stance

I never said that Turkiye is bigger or the best or a world power
This is your exaggeration

I am just showing real Turkish military projects , And if they are in the same league as the US, Russia and China, then that's not my problem
On the other forum I hang, our resident Turk posts similar to you. And, as the resident Pakistani, who happens to be a member (though I won't divulge his name) here will affirm, I have spoken positively of some of the Turkiye achievements. Even though, as an American, I'd like to see you buying more American kit, I also admire the fact you are working to becoming more self-sufficient.

Some programs Turkiye is rapidly catching up. Some may even be on par with. But as far as being in the same "league" development-wise as the US, Russia, and of late (and a newcomer) China, it will be awhile.
 
People bored with your anti-Turkiye propaganda
always You and same MODS including DEINO
on the other hand , Waz and Mr.X never take anti-Turkiye stance

I never said that Turkiye is bigger or the best or a world power
This is your exaggeration

I am just showing real Turkish military projects , And if they are in the same league as the US, Russia and China, then that's not my problem

I am saying again , even if some people don't like it

USA : F-22 and F-35
China : J-20 and J-35
Russia : SU-57
and Turkiye joins the big club with KAAN

Also KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 unmanned stealth Fighter Jets for MUM-T concept
MURAD-100A and MURAD-600A GaN based AESA Radars

Currently, no one could develop these technologies other than these countries.
and Turkiye is one of them

Its not blind patriotism but its reality
Turkish KAAN is full of indigenous ( except engine and ejection seat ) while S.Korean KF-21 is almost full of American-Israeli-European technology
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no one is doing anti-Turkish propaganda, but asking you genuine and logical questions about KAAN, specially development of TF35000 but you have no logical and genuine answers for our questions and you're also famous for exaggerating Turkish defense products and insult others if they're not agree with you
 
Some programs Turkiye is rapidly catching up. Some may even be on par with. But as far as being in the same "league" development-wise as the US, Russia, and of late (and a newcomer) China, it will be awhile.

We are in the same league as platforms such as KAAN , HURJET , KIZILELMA , ANKA-3

We are close to these three countries in this regards of GaN based AESA Radars , EOTS , IRST , DIRCM , EW Suite , Mission computer , HMDS , Targeting and Jamming Pods

You are right in turbofan engine technology .. it will be awhile ( 2032-2035 period )
 
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