Chinese Aircraft Carriers - Liaoning, Shandong, Fujian and the future

Hendarto said:
A closer look at the Fujian air wing reveals that they have 50 J-15Ts in inventory. This video shows J15T with serial numbers 48 and 49. My guess is they have at least eight or even 10 J 35
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Again you have no clue how the numbering system within the PLA NA works!

Yes, the PLAN has already "50 J-15Ts in inventory" - in fact we know already there are more than 70 - but they are not all assigned to the Fujian.
 
Deino said:
Again you have no clue how the numbering system within the PLA NA works!

Yes, the PLAN has already "50 J-15Ts in inventory" - in fact we know already there are more than 70 - but they are not all assigned to the Fujian.
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I implied at least 50 by watching the video. I didn't say they didn't have more than 50. Please show me the serial number with 70 markup.

Well, at least I don't predict that Fujian will not be commissioned this year in one of your famous postings
 
Hendarto said:
I implied at least 50 by watching the video. I didn't say they didn't have more than 50. Please show me the serial number with 70 markup.
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Oh man, I really don't know what to do with you... first you write nonsense again, then you don't understand the explanation, and your reply proves even more that you simply haven't understood anything, and then, to distract from your mistake, you make a stupid claim as a counterattack! Although, by now, I think you simply don't want to understand.


So, let's make it short: Point 1. It's not about the serial number, because that's simply an individual bort-number. Obviously, you believe that J-15T no. 98 is actually the 98th J-15? In fact, it's the 33rd, with the construction number 020033.
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Or do you perhaps believe—I'm almost afraid of it!—that J-35 no. 93 is also the 93rd J-35? It's always about the construction number, which unfortunately is often not clearly identifiable, but yes, we have J-15 cn. 040070 aka the 70th J-15T.

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Hendarto said:
Well, at least I don't predict that Fujian will not be commissioned this year in one of your famous postings
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Point 2: I have never claimed—and I'd stake my reputation on this—that the Fujian wouldn't be commissioned this year. It was always certain that it would be, and only just a matter of when... perhaps even in the first half of the year or just prior to the parade.

Therefore, this is nothing but another blatant, stupid lie, and since this isn't the first time this has happened, I explicitly demand that you quote this false claim! If it's true, then I will indeed apologize for it, because it was indeed a foolish assumption... if not, then I will ban you for repeated trolling!

Simple as that...
 
Commemorative watch for the Fujian aircraft carrier's commissioning (manufactured by Fiyta)
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Deino said:
Oh man, I really don't know what to do with you... first you write nonsense again, then you don't understand the explanation, and your reply proves even more that you simply haven't understood anything, and then, to distract from your mistake, you make a stupid claim as a counterattack! Although, by now, I think you simply don't want to understand.


So, let's make it short: Point 1. It's not about the serial number, because that's simply an individual bort-number. Obviously, you believe that J-15T no. 98 is actually the 98th J-15? In fact, it's the 33rd, with the construction number 020033.
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Or do you perhaps believe—I'm almost afraid of it!—that J-35 no. 93 is also the 93rd J-35? It's always about the construction number, which unfortunately is often not clearly identifiable, but yes, we have J-15 cn. 040070 aka the 70th J-15T.

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Point 2: I have never claimed—and I'd stake my reputation on this—that the Fujian wouldn't be commissioned this year. It was always certain that it would be, and only just a matter of when... perhaps even in the first half of the year or just prior to the parade.

Therefore, this is nothing but another blatant, stupid lie, and since this isn't the first time this has happened, I explicitly demand that you quote this false claim! If it's true, then I will indeed apologize for it, because it was indeed a foolish assumption... if not, then I will ban you for repeated trolling!

Simple as that...
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Ok, you are right on the bort number. I apologize, but I stand on the 2nd one. I clearly remember when we were discussing the trial in Fujian. You effectively said that it won't be this year, or ever. I found it odd at that time, but I didn't comment. The same applies to the 4th carrier; you continue to make reservations about the nature of the ships, whether they are commercial or naval.
 
Hendarto said:
Ok, you are right on the bort number. I apologize, but I stand on the 2nd one. I clearly remember when we were discussing the trial in Fujian. You effectively said that it won't be this year, or ever. I found it odd at that time, but I didn't comment. The same applies to the 4th carrier; you continue to make reservations about the nature of the ships, whether they are commercial or naval.
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Show it proven by a quote or shut up! I never did and yes, I prefer being sceptical - which is not forbidden - but posting lies, false claims and BS is!

Get your homework done and show me where I said Fujian won't be commissioned this year or shut up and take your ban as promised. I really have enough of these constant spreading lies and false claims and then not admitting it!
 
I didn't purposely lie; I just confused the BORT number and the construction serial number.

Yes, there is nothing wrong with expressing scepticism, but if you keep doing it on all Chinese military development, it becomes tiring. Why do you have to do that?
 
Hendarto said:
I didn't purposely lie; I just confused the BORT number and the construction serial number.

Yes, there is nothing wrong with expressing scepticism, but if you keep doing it on all Chinese military development, it becomes tiring. Why do you have to do that?
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Because I prefer to have a "clean slate," as we say in Germany, when it comes to predictions, instead of constantly posting things that aren't true, aren't a fact yet, or are just a project—like you, for example!

And perhaps a look at the "reputation" would help in this regard. ;)

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I only joined this forum recently, less than two or three years ago, I suppose. So I have far fewer posts than you did. Don't know how the reputation algorithm is graded. I never posted a lie purposely or a project, but my source could be misleading
 
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