JF-17 - Updates, News & Discussion

[Yommie]

JF-17 + CM-400AKG ASM

This is good. I'd like to see it carry something like a single Kh-69 in the centerline. Range about 400 km with a low RCS shape.

Kh-69 - Wikipedia

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[Princeps]

This is good. I'd like to see it carry something like a single Kh-69 in the centerline. Range about 400 km with a low RCS shape.

Kh-69 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Raad 2 ALCM, it can possibly carry 2 of them

 

[Ibbi32]

Man I wish Pakistan had purchased the technology for the Mar 1 the Brazilians canceled the project after that sale to Pakistan it would have given a good base to further develop anti radiation missiles

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90s and 2000s were best time to work with south africa and brasil and we missed our opportunity

 

[Yasser76]

90s and 2000s were best time to work with south africa and brasil and we missed our opportunity

Perhaps, they had good tech back then, but since then pace of Chinese Military tech increased so much.

We would never go for H2/H4 or MAR-1 now

 

[Ibbi32]

Perhaps, they had good tech back then, but since then pace of Chinese Military tech increased so much.

We would never go for H2/H4 or MAR-1 now

That was some of the most trying times for PAF and we could’ve monumentally upgraded our capability further. Also to note our relationship with china was never truly equal wheras a partnership with SA and Brazil could’ve easily been

 

[Yasser76]

That was some of the most trying times for PAF and we could’ve monumentally upgraded our capability further. Also to note our relationship with china was never truly equal wheras a partnership with SA and Brazil could’ve easily been

Very true, but as you say, missed the opportunity.

Next 10-15 years China will surpass US in every aspect of Military tech (in many areas it already has)

Pakistan will have access to some of the most advanced weaponry on earth (even if it will be Export version)

 

[Metal 0-1]

Yeah no, the reason they were equipped with so many A-G munitions is because they were our numerous platform until the JF-17s surpassed them maybe less then a decade ago they lack any modern EW suites to even have chance.

Ummmm no! Nuh uh

 

[Night Memory]

With all the news of our Azeri brothers getting the JF-17s, why is PAC Kamra so silent? Whats the manufacturing rate per year at the moment? There were rumours of the factory in stall mode.

 

[Night Memory]

using russian stock engines, surprisingly PAC is still getting deliveries from Russia for Az.

It has been pointed out multiple times and even by QUWA that the engines are not supplied by Russia but manufactured by China under license because PAF asked China for binding guarantees when it comes to the engine.

 

[Ali_Baba]

It has been pointed out multiple times and even by QUWA that the engines are not supplied by Russia but manufactured by China under license because PAF asked China for binding guarantees when it comes to the engine.

Incorrect. The engines are Russian supplied engines. Originally they came via China, but Pakistan managed to create a deal to get them directly from Russia(and saves on middlemen fees by doing so ).

 

[Toxic]

I wonder can the JF-17 carry A-A missiles on its inner hardpoints?

 

[hussain0216]

Very true, but as you say, missed the opportunity.

Next 10-15 years China will surpass US in every aspect of Military tech (in many areas it already has)

Pakistan will have access to some of the most advanced weaponry on earth (even if it will be Export version)

The fact that we have China and Turkey in our corner is MASSIVE, ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE going forward

Chinese industrial might is a behemoth and as you say in the coming years it will surpass the U.S and Europe and in some cases already has

As long as Pakistan can concentrate on it's economy, between China, Turkey, Pakistans own efforts, Pakistan will have access to the most deadly weapons in the world


One of the risks and reasons for a high chance of early war with India is because Indian planners understand all of this to some extent, and the more they wait, the more dangerous and built up Pakistan becomes

Pakistan may already have done enough to become too dangerous for anyone to take on, but in a few years when our subs are in place and we push for more subs and nuclear powered subs even, we have 5th gen aircraft and PAF is a streamlined force with all assets being capable and no fluff like the PGs, and our navy of beefed up, it would be deadly to take on Pakistan

 

[Ak01]

It has been pointed out multiple times and even by QUWA that the engines are not supplied by Russia but manufactured by China under license because PAF asked China for binding guarantees when it comes to the engine.

nah, its not like that, i think you're misunderstanding.

china's role in this is the middleman, when i say new engines from russia, as in russia is still supplying them to china for pak.

pak gets them from china, whos only role is to act as the customer, but also remake catalogues and also manuals

this means our part numbers are chinese part numbers, preventing pac from going to klimov direct for support/equipt (theyve tried)- then the chinese go and buy whatever and re export to pak

even pac's rd93 mro is not officially licensed, nor recognised, its not an official, approved or authorised facility, rather, one reverse engineered by china

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

With all the news of our Azeri brothers getting the JF-17s, why is PAC Kamra so silent? Whats the manufacturing rate per year at the moment? There were rumours of the factory in stall mode.

If the Azeris want to keep this quiet, it'll remain quite.

 

[iron shrapnel]

90s and 2000s were best time to work with south africa and brasil and we missed our opportunity

90s and 2000s was a tough time for Pakistan financially and some embargoes as well if I'm not mistaken