Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[NA71]

Once again my all time favorite chacha....

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[Distant_Observer]

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[hnn]

"Shiksha Grahan" is the keyword here . There may be more instances of "Shiksha Grahan" in the near future.
The funny part is that an armed force that is 7 times numerically and technically superior to its adversary gets a Shiksha Grahan experience.

Yes they have been schooled rather nicely. If they want to learn more all they have to is ask lol

 

[Cipher212]

Because these two @Olympus81 and @Cipher212 are state backed enemy trolls engaged in social media psychological warfare, and trained to divert and change the narrative.
For 5 decades the print, electronic, and later social media had a single topic to quote when diverting the narrative; the "93k surrender" in the 1971 Civil war. Geo-Political events, nuclear standoffs, since then have rendered that topic meaningless, and in fact more of an embarrassment considering the several thousand enemy soldiers killed during those two weeks of conflict and the loss of the vital Chambh-Jhaurian corridor in Kashmir.
Now the enemy propagandists have a new topic to drum up in their propaganda narrative.
- 9 Pakistani bases destroyed, and no Indian Air Force aircraft
lost. Pakistani planes damaged and destroyed.
- Ceasefire plea by Pakistan.
That's the propaganda narrative that enemy social media trolls will disseminate over and over again. They will do it surreptitiously by innocently raising the topic.

The fact that ALL Pakistani air bases are operational and ALL Pakistani aircraft both combat and civilian are freely flying inside their airspace should be the ultimate humiliation for the world's fourth largest air force; an air-force that has FAILED to establish air superiority, and shut down Pakistan's airspace in four wars over seven decades.

By comparison, the enemy's ally Israel established air superiority over Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt in 1967 and has now extended its air superiority over Iraq, Iran, Yemen, and Qatar despite having a numerically far smaller air force.

I guess this question as to WHY the Indian Air Force has been unable to establish air superiority over a neighboring nation with a 7:1 numerical advantage and possessing cutting edge technology and the most modern combat aircraft will remain unanswered.
The Indian Air Force enjoys exactly the same level of intelligence and technology support from the USA and Western countries, as its ally the Israeli Air force. Yet the competence is vastly different.
Example: 100+ combat and support aircraft of the Israeli Air Force flew 2000 km over hostile territory successfully striking 30 targets inside Iran (which had a layered surface to air missile defense) and did not lose a single aircraft. The Iranian Air Force was grounded with air bases heavily damaged and dozens of aircraft destroyed on the ground. The Iranian Air Force is grounded since and Israel maintains air superiority allowing it to strike at will.
Compare this with the Indian Air Force performance flying 75 combat aircraft over 100 km missions on 9 targets.

Even our enemy's ally Israel is embarrassed at the Indian Air Force's incompetence. This is reflected in the complete silence and no congratulations to Indian Air Force over successful airstrikes. In fact the Israeli Air Force appears extremely disappointed with its ally and there were no invitations to the Indian Air Force Chief to visit Israel on a lecture tour.

The United States is far more candid ( and disappointed).with the US president repeatedly mentioning the loss of "7 planes shot down" in an obvious reference to the losses of the Indian Air Force.

So far as Pakistan is concerned the war continues and there are inevitably new challenges in the forthcoming combat operations. The Pakistan Air Force is more concerned about the immediate situation rather than dwell on propaganda.

Question: Why do we allow diversion of the narrative and entertain such trolls on this forum?
@Maarkhoor

Please prove your allegation that I'm state backed enemy troll or apologize.

To all die hard fanboys. If I ask SAAB damage hua ke nahi hua uska matlab ye nahi hay ke I WANT it to be damaged. I am asking if anyone knows what happened or not.

DG ISPR ne bola damage hua theek hay likin DG ISPR ne Konsa aakay bataya hay ke exactly har base pe konsa hangar hit hua hay aur un ke andar Kya tha?

I'm really getting tired of some of you people on this forum who devolve into rabid nationalistic dogs anytime a question is asked. It's like I'm talking to the foot soldiers of Chairman Mao.

 

[Blain2]

More noise. As if in a nuclear overhang, Pakistan won't have a part to play in this Bollywood script of theirs and it is only a one-sided deal:

‘Fully prepared’: Indian Army chief says May conflict was ‘a trailer’ in new warning to Pakistan​

AFP Published November 17, 2025 Updated about an hour ago

Indian army chief General Upendra Dwivedi speaks at a defence conference in New Delhi, India on November 17. — Screengrab via X/@ANI
https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaMc238IiRov8okfYy3n
Indian army chief General Upendra Dwivedi on Monday issued a pointed warning to Pakistan, comparing the brief May conflict to a “trailer” rather than a full-length film.

The Indian army chief’s remarks come a week after an explosion near the Red Fort in New Delhi on November 10, leaving 12 people dead in the first such explosion in the Indian capital since 2011.

Delivering a speech at a defence conference in New Delhi, Gen Dwivedi said, “I’d like to say that the movie hasn’t even started — only a trailer was shown, and, after the trailer, it was over within 88 hours.“


“So, we’re fully prepared for the future, and if Pakistan gives us such an opportunity, we’d like to provide them with a thorough education on how a responsible nation should behave with its neighbours.“

The conflict between the two countries in May was sparked by an attack on tourists in India-occupied Kashmir, which New Delhi, without evidence, linked to Pakistan. Islamabad strongly denied responsibility while calling for a neutral investigation.

New Delhi then launched deadly air strikes in Punjab and Azad Kashmir on May 7. After tit-for-tat strikes on each other’s airbases during the four-day escalation, it took American intervention on May 10 for both sides to finally reach a ceasefire.

‘Fully prepared’: Indian Army chief says May conflict was ‘a trailer’ in new warning to Pakistan

Suspect linked to Delhi car blast presented in court today.

www.dawn.com

 

[Cipher212]

Oh bhai..., some creatures on social media even claim that ALL 11 Bases were completely "DESTROYED".

That is the narrative sold - next to Indian Navy in Lahore Port.

Let's just call a Spade - A Spade.

Yes, they did hit some of our Bases. Some weren't even Bases. Just barely used Airports like Rahim Yar Khan. Hitting that bloody Airports still seems to give 'em hard-ons.

And all that is just in photos and some footage from a far.

But, heaven forbid if they acknowledge a bunch of Sardar-ji' s inspecting a M88 Engine. Or a BSF Soldier making a selfie video of a MiG-29 shot down by Pakistan. Or some guys wrapping a parachute belonging to a Su-30MKi. Or a Mirage 2000 parked inside a School - of all places.

So..., I wouldn't worry too much about your question.

I am aware of all these things already, I'm only asking about the Bholari hangar. Not Jacobabad or any runway crater. Those are meaningless

 

[Ali_Baba]

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Iran is basically saying that India was involved and worked with Israel to attack Iran in the recent conflict, with this move.

 

[hasssanali8998]

every single website is unusable

 

[Olympus81]

Please prove your allegation that I'm state backed enemy troll or apologize.

To all die hard fanboys. If I ask SAAB damage hua ke nahi hua uska matlab ye nahi hay ke I WANT it to be damaged. I am asking if anyone knows what happened or not.

DG ISPR ne bola damage hua theek hay likin DG ISPR ne Konsa aakay bataya hay ke exactly har base pe konsa hangar hit hua hay aur un ke andar Kya tha?

I'm really getting tired of some of you people on this forum who devolve into rabid nationalistic dogs anytime a question is asked. It's like I'm talking to the foot soldiers of Chairman Mao.

Well said.

Insinuating that someone is anti national based on a certain question or a criticism or an opinion does not reflect well on oneself.

 

[Olympus81]

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Should have been done the day after the Iran Israel war.

These folks are just too slow.

 

[Yasser76]

Iran is basically saying that India was involved and worked with Israel to attack Iran in the recent conflict, with this move.

Wow, Iranian embassy not being diplomatic or trying to sugarcoat this news

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[Psyko70]

Wow, Iranian embassy not being diplomatic or trying to sugarcoat this news

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I told this to do the israel attack started but senior members insisted there is no evidence.

 

[NA71]

More noise. As if in a nuclear overhang, Pakistan won't have a part to play in this Bollywood script of theirs and it is only a one-sided deal:

‘Fully prepared’: Indian Army chief says May conflict was ‘a trailer’ in new warning to Pakistan​

AFP Published November 17, 2025 Updated about an hour ago

Indian army chief General Upendra Dwivedi speaks at a defence conference in New Delhi, India on November 17. — Screengrab via X/@ANI
https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VaMc238IiRov8okfYy3n
Indian army chief General Upendra Dwivedi on Monday issued a pointed warning to Pakistan, comparing the brief May conflict to a “trailer” rather than a full-length film.

The Indian army chief’s remarks come a week after an explosion near the Red Fort in New Delhi on November 10, leaving 12 people dead in the first such explosion in the Indian capital since 2011.

Delivering a speech at a defence conference in New Delhi, Gen Dwivedi said, “I’d like to say that the movie hasn’t even started — only a trailer was shown, and, after the trailer, it was over within 88 hours.“


“So, we’re fully prepared for the future, and if Pakistan gives us such an opportunity, we’d like to provide them with a thorough education on how a responsible nation should behave with its neighbours.“

The conflict between the two countries in May was sparked by an attack on tourists in India-occupied Kashmir, which New Delhi, without evidence, linked to Pakistan. Islamabad strongly denied responsibility while calling for a neutral investigation.

New Delhi then launched deadly air strikes in Punjab and Azad Kashmir on May 7. After tit-for-tat strikes on each other’s airbases during the four-day escalation, it took American intervention on May 10 for both sides to finally reach a ceasefire.

‘Fully prepared’: Indian Army chief says May conflict was ‘a trailer’ in new warning to Pakistan

Suspect linked to Delhi car blast presented in court today.

www.dawn.com

Fully prepared against 7 times smaller country ....that small country resides in your hearts and minds for last 7 decades ....your entire war strategy revolves around that country .....PAKISTAN.....and you still not prepared to take on.....

 

[RocketLaw]

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[lightoftruth]

Fully prepared against 7 times smaller country ....that small country resides in your hearts and minds for last 7 decades ....your entire war strategy revolves around that country .....PAKISTAN.....and you still not prepared to take on.....

You forgot "the one you broke into 2".