PTI News, Updates and Discussion

[Forsvaret]

Because there was interference. She was a planted agent, the second attempt after the first one (Reham) failed.

Then blame those who planted her with Imran Khan in the first place. Why is everyone instead targeting his wife or Imran Khan himself if Bushra Bibi really is an implant as you claim?

 

[Forsvaret]

well I remember she had escaped the country very quickly, within a few days of Imran Khan's ouster.

While Imran Khan kept refusing to "escape" to another country at the same time. Why would a notorious criminal mastermind like Imran Khan not want to escape — despite military establishment’s offers over the years?

 

[Forsvaret]

Just take this into account, he barred his closest confidant from attending his swearing in Ceremony who was with him for 6 years everyday, making sure everything was planned and executed perfectly ... just because his wife said so....

Any evidence of this claim? Were actually listening to his wife from their bedroom cameras?

 

[Forsvaret]

But your standards of listing Imran's balls daily are really good.

How is that any different from your daily Bughaz-e-Imran rants?

 

[Forsvaret]

What kind of 'evidence' is needed to convince them that Imran is unfit to rule Pakistan??

This kind of "evidence":

 

[Forsvaret]

IK's time came and went.

After only ONE term while the likes of Nawaz and Zardari kept coming back? No such Bughaz for them?

 

[PakAl]

Yes, that pattern seems very clear. Any chance of any overture or peace efforts between PTI and establishment there are headlines maligning IK, IK’s wife, PTI members maligning the establishment and vice versa.

Makes one think there are deeper motives than what is on the surface.

Zardari spent alot of time in jail, but after a few months eventually lived like a king. Alot of his mates during his jail time are millionaires. Yaaro ka yaar hai Zardari.

Everything is propaganda, attacking his wife and the rest. What the reality is a fall out took place between IK and the establishment, he refused to listen, and they had major disagreements on some issues, the same with Nawaz Sharif and establishment but he has calmed down now. The last nail in the coffin was how IK and Pti started to target the military leadership, the chain of command, to encourage junior generals of a coup, getting help from within the military, from the ex military people etc. All this lead the relations to a point of no return.

 

[Forsvaret]

They can believe in The Flying Spaghetti Monster for all I care, as long as they remain out of power, being above or below the ground does not matter.

So, you only "care" if / when PTI comes into power?

 

[Forsvaret]

What Pakistan needs is a prolonged period of focus, continuity of policies…

What good can even out with the "continuity" of Hazrat Asim Muneer’s policies when his 3 year long iron fist rule has done nothing good for the country so far?

 

[PakAl]

What if we unconsciously don't want the problems to go away because that is what we are familiar with and a life without problems where we wake up to complaint about nothing seems kinda boring?

I, for one, like my morning tea with a plate full of bickering on the side. Biscuits are too vanilla.

Underrated comment. Mentality needs to be changed, Pakistan is what we are, politics is exactly how it is supposed to be.

 

[Forsvaret]

The entire PDM saga and cipher and so on was utterly unnecessary because the reading by late 21 and early 22 was already that PTI government has flopped and they were trying out the usual suspects for stability and so on.

If PTI govt was already a "flop" by late 21 and early 22, why didn’t military establishment and PDM just let them lose the next elections in an organic way? Why did they go to such extreme lengths to pull the rug from Imran Khan — two years before his party was to lose big time in next general elections anyway?

 

[Forsvaret]

Naya Pakistan will be the same as Purana Pakistan.

Only, the military establishment had NO interest in Naya Pakistan after they had a patch up with those from Purana Pakistan (PDM).

 

[Forsvaret]

…and the fantasy of a long stable relationship faded come morning…

You can’t really have a "stable" relationship with military establishment — when they’re prone to using others in times of need and then just throw them out like used condom — when that original need is no longer there.

 

[Forsvaret]

Such tendencies existed in PPP with ZAB/Benazir and the Noonies (Nawaz) but those parties have been beaten back, tamed to be mere 'clerical' Yes Men. And nothing wrong with that!

Nothing "wrong" with military establishment beating Pakistan’s political parties into submission? Okay.

 

[Forsvaret]

They better shape up, do the 'governance' as well as possible…

How would they even "govern" with the military establishment constantly intervening and interfering in govt affairs?