An Indian Tejas fighter jet crashed during an aerial display at the Dubai Air Show

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🧐If you look inside the cockpit it seems like he was raising left arm.

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I believe I was the first on this thread to say, it looks like he blacked out. The last roll was very hard.


What does left arm indicate?
He fainted and he is flopping around.

People on X are referring to the cause as:

Syncope is the medical term for fainting, which is a temporary and sudden loss of consciousness caused by a brief drop in blood flow to the brain. It typically involves becoming limp and motionless before spontaneously recovering consciousness
Yep.
 
Those who are praying for IAF W-CDR I wish they will meet him where he landed after his death.
Sir you are man, with stone heart
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Narrated `Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do not abuse the dead, for they have reached the result of what they have done."

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By default every human, regardless of religion is a good person. It is usually the government policies, conflict of interest that set us a part. Have a big heart and appreciate the soldier, it is right, morally correct but also the teachings of our beloved Prophet (SAWW).
 
Sir you are man, with stone heart
————
Narrated `Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do not abuse the dead, for they have reached the result of what they have done."

————
By default every human, regardless of religion is a good person. It is usually the government policies, conflict of interest that set us a part. Have a big heart and appreciate the soldier, it is right, morally correct but also the teachings of our beloved Prophet (SAWW).

One must return the favor to the ugly enemy. Applying the other cheek method won't work here.
 
One must return the favor to the ugly enemy. Applying the other cheek method won't work here.
there is no cheek method buddy.

There is a difference in the language of war time and “somewhat” peace time. It is sad to see the loss of human life, wasted like this but of course if it was a direct conflict between both nations, it would be a different story. This incident doesn’t gain anything for Pakistan but th family of that poor pilot will suffer forever. We can still celebrate the loss of machine and I already did that in earlier posts alongside the embarrassment Indian government had to face

Our focus must be on Indian government/not the individual soul
 
People on X are referring to the cause as:

Syncope is the medical term for fainting, which is a temporary and sudden loss of consciousness caused by a brief drop in blood flow to the brain. It typically involves becoming limp and motionless before spontaneously recovering consciousness
G forces more like to causes a red out rather than pure syncope during that maneuver. Doesn't change the fact that its a failure. The medicos should not have cleared him for flight if he was that unconditioned.
 
there is no cheek method buddy.

There is a difference in the language of war time and “somewhat” peace time. It is sad to see the loss of human life, wasted like this but of course if it was a direct conflict between both nations, it would be a different story. This incident doesn’t gain anything for Pakistan but th family of that poor pilot will suffer forever. We can still celebrate the loss of machine and I already did that in earlier posts alongside the embarrassment Indian government had to face

Let's also spare some time for the millions of others around the world who are genuinely suffering due to war, hunger etc. This Indian pilot was living a luxurious life along with his family. His family will continue to enjoy a good life. He lost his life due to his own mistake. We are spending too much time offering condolences to a guy who would not blink for a minute whilst killing random Pakistanis. The Indian Air Force is not a friend of Pakistan. It is an enemy force meant to spread terror and kill as many Pakistanis as possible. You make good and respectful gestures to people who really deserve it.
 
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Sir you are man, with stone heart
————
Narrated `Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do not abuse the dead, for they have reached the result of what they have done."

————
By default every human, regardless of religion is a good person. It is usually the government policies, conflict of interest that set us a part. Have a big heart and appreciate the soldier, it is right, morally correct but also the teachings of our beloved Prophet (SAWW).

I'm going to end up offending most people here by saying this, but I believe Islam or Christianity are absolutely not good guide for geopolitics.

I believe in geopolitics without morality, you must dehumanize the people you're fighting with to wage effective warfare. Indians do this kind of social engineering via their media, they don't care if you like them or not because that's immaterial to their long term expansionist objectives.

Pakistanis are acting honorably, but you're up against an enemy that views your kindness as the cowardice of a weaker enemy.
 
I'm going to end up offending most people here by saying this, but I believe Islam or Christianity are absolutely not good guide for geopolitics.

I believe in geopolitics without morality, you must dehumanize the people you're fighting with to wage effective warfare. Indians do this kind of social engineering via their media, they don't care if you like them or not because that's immaterial to their long term expansionist objectives.

Pakistanis are acting honorably, but you're up against an enemy that views your kindness as the cowardice of a weaker enemy.

The Indian Hindus aren't going to quote compassionate verses from their holy book when they wage a war against Pakistan. The Hindutva in India will resort to the worst kind of atrocities against Pakistanis if they get the chance to do so.

The Pakistanis are a gullible one in a million kind. Always thinking and believing from the good. The world doesn't work like that. Ask the Kashmiris, Palestinians and countless others that got raped, burnt and exterminated.
 
Sir you are man, with stone heart
————
Narrated `Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do not abuse the dead, for they have reached the result of what they have done."

————
By default every human, regardless of religion is a good person. It is usually the government policies, conflict of interest that set us a part. Have a big heart and appreciate the soldier, it is right, morally correct but also the teachings of our beloved Prophet (SAWW).
Sir soldiers don't hate soldiers but having said that He was not Mulsim so we can't pray for him just can convey condolances "In this case we are state of war with India since OP Sindoor still on so even we can't offer condolances also".
 
Sir you are man, with stone heart
————
Narrated `Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do not abuse the dead, for they have reached the result of what they have done."

————
By default every human, regardless of religion is a good person. It is usually the government policies, conflict of interest that set us a part. Have a big heart and appreciate the soldier, it is right, morally correct but also the teachings of our beloved Prophet (SAWW).
Cracking post bro.
 
His family will continue to enjoy a good life.
Probably not. They do not have the kind of support structure for their officers and their families like we do.

He lost his life due to his own mistake.
Most Indian pilots are incompetent. They get emotional... like Nandoo coming across the border in anger. And remember that Nachikeeta dude? He did the same thing and got shot down for his effort.

And I doubt their technical competence .. and physical fitness....as well. Someone said on this forum that when Russians trained the Indians, they had a name for the Indian pilots.... "Cow in cockpit". That kind of disrespect from a "friend" doesn't happen without a reason.

a guy who would not think a minute in killing Pakistanis.
One may feel sorry for the pilot... that's fine. But fact is, it's one less person who will try to kill me and my family when they next try something (and they will).

but I believe Islam or Christianity are absolutely not good guide for geopolitics.
Islam is an excellent guide for geopolitics, I would argue.

It sez in the Koran (from memory)... If they once threw you out of your homes, you have permission to throw them out of their homes.

and

Persecution is worse than killing. Meaning if they come after you again and again... end them.

Absolutely nothing wrong with Islam in geopolitics, I say.
 
Probably not. They do not have the kind of support structure for their officers and their families like we do.


Most Indian pilots are incompetent. They get emotional... like Nandoo coming across the border in anger. And remember that Nachikeeta dude? He did the same thing and got shot down for his effort.

And I doubt their technical competence .. and physical fitness....as well. Someone said on this forum that when Russian trained the Indians, they had a name for the Indians.... "Cow in cockpit". That kind of disrespect from a "friend" doesn't happen without a reason.


One may feel sorry for the pilot... that's fine. But fact is, it's one less person who will try to kill me and my family when they next try something (and they will).


Islam is an excellent guide for geopolitics, I would argue.

It sez in the Koran (from memory)... If they once threw you out of your homes, you have permission to throw them out of their homes.

and

Persecution is worse than killing. Meaning if they come after you again and again... end them.

Absolutely nothing wrong with Islam in geopolitics, I say.

For this Indian pilot and his family an exception will be made. Modi will make sure of that. He got international media exposure.
 
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It sez in the Koran (from memory)... If they once threw you out of your homes, you have permission to throw them out of their homes.

and

Persecution is worse than killing. Meaning if they come after you again and again... end them.

Absolutely nothing wrong with Islam in geopolitics, I say.


That's basically 'eye for an eye'. Islam asks you to act honorably, and vengeance still fits the bill. Acting honorable is the worst thing you can do in geopolitics.

There are numerous historical examples of Europeans tricking Muslims with fake promises or treaties, then reneging on those. That's real geopolitics. Deception, betrayal, manipulating the narrative, dishonoring treaties when the time is right. We don't do that because Islam discourages every behavior that's needed for effective, morality-less geopolitics.
 
Sir soldiers don't hate soldiers but having said that He was not Mulsim so we can't pray for him just can convey condolances "In this case we are state of war with India since OP Sindoor still on so even we can't offer condolances also".
Sir, the soldier killed on the Pakistan-India border is an enemy because it is immediate threat to you. The rules of the game will be different… The same soldier dying at Dubai Airshow was not a threat and hence not your immediate enemy.

I disagree to disagree and need to go somewhere ;)
 
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