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[Mr Iran Eye]

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they are back to their old games

Sorry to offend your ego, but this is very true, and it's a topic for discussion elsewhere. I said that the F-313 program includes the creation of new technologies, and according to certain individuals, engineers and scientists in Iran are working tirelessly to produce this kind of technology, aiming for the 5th generation. They are doing this for the Kowsar aircraft, but it seems that the priority for scientific advancement is the F-313 program.

It's simply logical and natural that this is happening.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Sorry to offend your ego, but this is very true, and it's a topic for discussion elsewhere. I said that the F-313 program includes the creation of new technologies, and according to certain individuals, engineers and scientists in Iran are working tirelessly to produce this kind of technology, aiming for the 5th generation. They are doing this for the Kowsar aircraft, but it seems that the priority for scientific advancement is the F-313 program.

It's simply logical and natural that this is happening.

Qaher-313 turned into toy RC project which continues to embarrass Iran

for how many years will you persist with these stories

 

[FUB]

could they first build the f5 copies theyve been trying to build for 4 decades?

IRIAF has built a dozen F5 variants . The point was not to build third generation aircraft, but to gain access and experience in building aircraft .show me one country that has built an aircraft from scratch by reverse engineering and no TOT.

We’re decades ahead of Pakistan and most of the world in maintaining and over hauling a large fleet of aircraft with absolutely no TOT or outside help.

The correct decision was made to invest in the indigenous missile industry. Who in the region or in the world has gone to to swinging with the US and NATO other than Russia and fought a 12 day war to a draw?
Iranian engineers built the Shahed drones and now NATO countries are copying the suicide drone and building their own versions. That one drone by itself has laid to waste much of Ukraine and has depleted treasure of AD.
By comparison, the Turkish Bayraktar which is nothing more than an assembled drone from off-the-shelf parts from NATO countries was completely inconsequential.
I don’t give a shit how many shiny prototypes the Turkish propaganda machine flies around. It has practically zero combat effectiveness
against third rate warlords.

Russia's Aeroflot sends aircraft for repair to Iran​

https://www.reuters.com/world/russias-aeroflot-sends-aircraft-repair-iran-2023-04-11/

 

[MMCM]

IRIAF has built a dozen F5 variants . The point was not to build third generation aircraft, but to gain access and experience in building aircraft .show me one country that has built an aircraft from scratch by reverse engineering and no TOT.

We’re decades ahead of Pakistan and most of the world in maintaining and over hauling a large fleet of aircraft with absolutely no TOT or outside help.

The correct decision was made to invest in the indigenous missile industry. Who in the region or in the world has gone to to swinging with the US and NATO other than Russia and fought a 12 day war to a draw?
Iranian engineers built the Shahed drones and now NATO countries are copying the suicide drone and building their own versions. That one drone by itself has laid to waste much of Ukraine and has depleted treasure of AD.
By comparison, the Turkish Bayraktar which is nothing more than an assembled drone from off-the-shelf parts from NATO countries was completely inconsequential.
I don’t give a shit how many shiny prototypes the Turkish propaganda machine flies around. It has practically zero combat effectiveness
against third rate warlords.

Russia's Aeroflot sends aircraft for repair to Iran​

https://www.reuters.com/world/russias-aeroflot-sends-aircraft-repair-iran-2023-04-11/

Well said , Iran is doing brilliantly despite all the obstacles it faces, never give up

 

[ToddE]

I am noticing recent blips of stupid most propaganda by IRIAF related officials and their influencers on X. No other branch is doing it, IRIN/IRGCN are silent, IRGCASF, ISA, Artesh all are silent but IRIAF/IAIO officials are back to their old tricks of claiming BS in media with nothing to back it up. SAIRAN chief claimed 5th gen tech recently and then Nasirzadeh Minister of MODAFL (ex IRIAF chief) claimed production of local fighters without even a single evidence. As soon as they opened their mouths, dozens of accounts on X and Insta are repeating same old crap once again. Are they eyeing budget share ?

 

[LX1111]

however you want to frame it, it is China's official policy that UNSC resolution 2231 has expired and therefore China is not bound by it, meaning China faces no limitations on exports to Iran.

Based on information I gathered from the Chinese internet, we must still abide by relevant UN resolutions. Exporting advanced fighter jets to Iran violates these resolutions. Furthermore, Iran has little interest in Chinese weapons; like most Third World countries, they view our weapons as a cheap alternative to Russian weaponry.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Based on information I gathered from the Chinese internet, we must still abide by relevant UN resolutions. Exporting advanced fighter jets to Iran violates these resolutions. Furthermore, Iran has little interest in Chinese weapons; like most Third World countries, they view our weapons as a cheap alternative to Russian weaponry.

you gathered wrong information. UN arms embargo expired and China does not recognise legitimacy of purported 'snap back' of UNSC sanctions. this is official Chinese policy, try to educate yourself.

most people view Chinese products as cheap knock offs of superior Western products, not just Third World countries (by the way, your GDP per capita is still not so great for you to be calling others Third World countries). but this is no longer correct, most Iranians understand that Chinese military products are now superior to Russian products in most cases.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[Persian Gulf]

I am noticing recent blips of stupid most propaganda by IRIAF related officials and their influencers on X. No other branch is doing it, IRIN/IRGCN are silent, IRGCASF, ISA, Artesh all are silent but IRIAF/IAIO officials are back to their old tricks of claiming BS in media with nothing to back it up. SAIRAN chief claimed 5th gen tech recently and then Nasirzadeh Minister of MODAFL (ex IRIAF chief) claimed production of local fighters without even a single evidence. As soon as they opened their mouths, dozens of accounts on X and Insta are repeating same old crap once again. Are they eyeing budget share ?

Nasirzadeh said Iran successfully tested a missile with 2000kg warhead and 2000km range the day before the war with Israel started

we didn't hear more about it (or the Qasem Basir, which we learned is not yet in production, despite them showing video footage of it in advance)

 

[LX1111]

you gathered wrong information. UN arms embargo expired and China does not recognise legitimacy of purported 'snap back' of UNSC sanctions. this is official Chinese policy, try to educate yourself.

most people view Chinese products as cheap knock offs of superior Western products, not just Third World countries (by the way, your GDP per capita is still not so great for you to be calling others Third World countries). but this is no longer correct, most Iranians understand that Chinese military products are now superior to Russian products in most cases.

No, I've read some memoirs written by employees of state-owned enterprises involved in arms export. Around 2000, China hoped to cooperate with Iran to upgrade the radar of its F-4 fighter jets, using the J-8F's Type 1492 radar. However, China wanted to visit the AWG9 radar of the F-14 fighter jet.The Iranians told us that this radar was too advanced for us.Our visit request was rejected.,This is ridiculous. How could a radar that the US deployed in the 1970s be considered advanced by China?

 

[LX1111]

you gathered wrong information. UN arms embargo expired and China does not recognise legitimacy of purported 'snap back' of UNSC sanctions. this is official Chinese policy, try to educate yourself.

most people view Chinese products as cheap knock offs of superior Western products, not just Third World countries (by the way, your GDP per capita is still not so great for you to be calling others Third World countries). but this is no longer correct, most Iranians understand that Chinese military products are now superior to Russian products in most cases.

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During his visit to China this year, Iran's Chief of the General Staff stated in an interview that Iran has a sufficiently strong defense industry and does not need the intervention of a country thousands of miles away (referring to China).

I think this shows that the top brass of the Iranian military has no interest in military cooperation with China.

 

[hasssanali8998]

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During his visit to China this year, Iran's Chief of the General Staff stated in an interview that Iran has a sufficiently strong defense industry and does not need the intervention of a country thousands of miles away (referring to China).
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I think this shows that the top brass of the Iranian military has no interest in military cooperation with China.

idk what to say man , is this stupidity ? arrogance ? incompetence ? .

 

[LX1111]

idk what to say man , is this stupidity ? arrogance ? incompetence ? .

Iran's domestically produced weapons fully meet its needs, and its weapon systems are becoming increasingly diversified. We have stated many times that we and other countries in the region can guarantee regional security without the need for intervention from thousands of miles away.

This is a direct quote from a CCTV interview with this Iranian general. I think Iran is essentially a worshipper of American weapons, which is related to Iranian social ideology. They consider themselves part of the white Aryan race and have a kind of superstitious worship of Western weapons.
have no interest in weapons manufactured by people of East Asian descent.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Based on information I gathered from the Chinese internet, we must still abide by relevant UN resolutions. Exporting advanced fighter jets to Iran violates these resolutions. Furthermore, Iran has little interest in Chinese weapons; like most Third World countries, they view our weapons as a cheap alternative to Russian weaponry.

China is currently supplying key components and materials( for rocket fuel amongst other things. How is it doing this, if the "sanctions are in place" for China ?

 

[LX1111]

China is currently supplying key components and materials( for rocket fuel amongst other things. How is it doing this, if the "sanctions are in place" for China ?

We certainly won't strictly enforce the arms embargo against Iran. Items like rocket fuel and critical instruments can be explained as civilian equipment, but there's no way to explain or hide the export of fighter jets like the J-10C and J-35.