Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Ibbi32]

Even if India uses high tech weapons to target Pakistan, what makes them think Pakistan wont retaliate? Next time if IAF fighter jets are not shot down then Pakistan will make sure the dent will be visible on India via satellite imagery for next ten years.

The biggest crater wont be one that is visible but one that isnt visible (vikrant)

 

[NA71]

Here we go

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[NA71]

Yeh chutto PR kay chakkar mein laga para hy. IAF ko dabo diya aur laga para hy Jai Hind.....

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[TAC]

@Ibbi32

Its an utter shame we didnt strike india then

Very wisely so that you didn't, IMHO.

Regards

Yeah, India wasn’t as wise which is why Sindoor blew up in its face.

 

[TAC]

@Ibbi32

Yes because indians came to us for their ass whooping instead

Is that why you offered a Nobel Prize to Trumpoo for arranging the ceasefire?

Regards

How does trying to get on the right side of a reckless US president have anything whatsoever to do with India’s epic humiliation in May?

 

[Baibers_1260]

@Baibers_1260

There is a big difference between IND/PAK/BD and the two Germanies. The latter partition was done against the will of the Germans by occupying imperial powers. The partition of India was voluntary.

Regards

Exactly!
That is a reality that Hindutva fundamentalists and die hard secular nationalists in India refuse to recognize. Both dream of reversing history and establishing the borders prior to 1947 and beyond.

 

[Oracle]

After all this.

As per ispr : 5-6 planes were down. Later news of 7-8 planes. (4 rafale)

As per Indian : planes were lost but no confirmation of lost rafale

As per French : Atleast 1 plane was down.

As per usa :7-8 planes.


Whom to believe

 

[arjunk]

It is the minds of our people that need changing. 63% of our population is under 30 years old and 25% of our total population is Gen Z, The greatest challenge is to make our mobile phone addicted Gen-Z population bred on Tik-Tok and Bollywood music, aware of the horrible fate that awaits them at the hands of the most cruel and ruthless enemy.
Earlier until the early 2000s, the majority of people in Pakistan were conscious of the threat, having lived under the cruel boot of majority oppression before our nation was created.
Since then the Pre-Partition generation of Pakistan has died, off, and only the older 1950s born "Baby Boomer " generation, ( itself now aged and rapidly dying off) remains alive, and aware of the threat.
Even this forum reflects how lightly the threat of annihilation, or complete subjugation and slavery, is taken by Gen Z members. The memes, short videos and various one line jokes are the only resistance plans the Gen Z can offer. Ironically the memes themselves are from Bollywood media reflecting how deeply this is ingrained in their psych. In the minds of our youth, our enemy has expertly cultivated an image that varies Bollywood style from comedy, romance, and civility.

Our youth are unaware of the horrific sub-human wretched conditions the poverty stricken Indian Muslims are living in, and the fact that the thousands of ghettos that confine them are nothing more than open air prisons. That is what our enemy has planned for us; reduction to a primitive colony ruled by a brutal occupation.

Advertisements in Indian media for prime property in Karachi, Lahore, and Islamabad are not just propaganda for the enemy civilians to feel elated about "living space ". but actual post-occupation plans for our land.

The Gen Z population here cannot read or understand Hindi or other Indian languages, so are unaware of the open discussions, and in-fact advisories on the capture and sexual enslavement of Pakistani women. If this seems exaggerated then the biggest proof is the statement by Indian Army Chief Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw who had wished to avoid the rape and sexual enslavement of Pakistani women fearing a loss of discipline amongst his troops . On December 18, 19711 Manekshaw evaluated plans for the wholesale invasion and complete occupation of (West) Pakistan following Pakistan's defeat in the civil war in East Pakistan.
Manekshaw addressed his senior commanding officers and troops at a victory parade and said :

"If you see a Begum put your hands in your pockets "

Manekshaw was old school and "secular " . Despite his advisory Pakistani women (spouses of Pakistani armed forces personnel and civilians) captured in East Pakistan were physically abused, before and after transfer to the Indian concentration camps they were confined in for three years.

Red Cross reports are stark about women dying from self aborted pregnancies in the camps and the accounts are available on line in personal accounts written by inmates in secret diaries. These are now available on line on the internet. The younger female inmates are still alive to recount their horrors.
If this was the treatment the enemy meted out to 20,000 females captured in the 1971 war we can imagine what a 2.5 million horde of savages armed with the latest weapons would do to our people and particularly our young girls and women. It was easy to bury the humiliation our women suffered in 1971 because neither India ( then nominally "secular ") or Pakistan wanted public opinion in either country inflamed to wreak vengeance on the minorities in their respective countries.
Now there is no restraint so far as India is concerned. The treatment of the population of Kashmir and the peaceful island population of Lakshadweep ( Laccative Minivoy) is a stark reminder of the fate that awaits us if our defenses fail.

Yet we have chapri celebs like Talha Anjum waving the Indian flag and our woke media/celebs/academia coming to defend him.

Can you imagine if he raised the Israeli flag, how quickly he would (rightfully) be lynched?

The Indians have done the SAME Israeli genocidal war crimes against YOUR OWN PEOPLE in THEIR OWN LAND in Kashmir -- but waving the Indian flag is acceptable? Why? Are Pakistani lives worth less than Arabs?

And if you surrender Kashmir for a few dollars like a coward, are you really gullible enough to think the Indians will stop in Kashmir?

How did laying down arms work out for the West Bank Palestenians? How did becoming a neutered western puppet drowning in dollars save Qatar from being bombed by Israel?

Nothing short of de islamization and depopulation of Pakistan will satisfy these genocidal demons to our east.

They've already shown their intentions in Occupied Kashmir. After completeing genocide of Kashmir they will continue in Punjab, KP, Sindh, Balochistan.

@Baibers_1260 you are very well read on pak-india history and certainly deserve a positive rating or TT/analyst title

 

[arjunk]

Is that like a Trick Question ?

Okay lets say for a second that in their minds Ops. Sindoor was a success.

Their Media didn't do 'em any favors in the fisrt 48hrs or later by spawning fake news back & forth.

Anyone here can go back & check the comments (on YouTube) of the people when everything was going down. Only to later realize that:
- no F-16 was shot down
- no Viper Driver in custody
- Karachi Port is perfectly fine
- there is no Lahore Port
- (then) CoAS Asim Munir had NOT been arrested
- Baluchistan is still part of Pakistan

...

Should I go on ?

All those voices & faces like Barkha Dutt, Maj. Gurav Arya, Arnab whatshisface etc took a major hit. There are plenty of videos of their own public mocking them.

Operation Sindoor ended in Abject failure, even if we ignore the fact that the Indian Air Force jets was crushed and humiliated in retaliation.

India failed to kill a single militant, let alone deter future militant attacks (within hours of op sindoor, militant attacks in Kashmir resumed with the killing of a Para SF soldier).

 

[Ali_Baba]

After all this.

As per ispr : 5-6 planes were down. Later news of 7-8 planes. (4 rafale)

As per Indian : planes were lost but no confirmation of lost rafale

As per French : Atleast 1 plane was down.

As per usa :7-8 planes.


Whom to believe

Even to this day, there is uncertainty of who shot down what/when and how an aircraft was actually lost from as far back as WWII. There is ongoing debates when they discover old planes in locations and dig up bodies of fighter pilots from that era. That is the reality of aerial combat. All claims are denied until you have access to wreckage itself. Until then, all claims are claims. There is no such thing as 100% certainty. Only people who really know how many aircraft were lost, are the IAF, and they have no incentive to talk and be truthful.

 

[NA71]

The story of Indian threat is infact very old....

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[Corax]

I admire ben grunion as a nation state founder who led a nation through tumultuous times , not because he's a jew or Israeli!!

You could mention a dozen people who founded a state under those conditions, but why him? Why do you hindu indians worship those more worthy of you?

 

[Cipher212]

You could mention a dozen people who founded a state under those conditions, but why him? Why do you hindu indians worship those more worthy of you?

Mostly because they bomb Muslims, partially because they love Israeli women or at least whatever they picture the average Israeli woman to be, and partially because Indians just have a knack for supporting the opposite side of whatever country we are friendly with (Armenia, Greece)

 

[TAC]

After all this.

As per ispr : 5-6 planes were down. Later news of 7-8 planes. (4 rafale)

As per Indian : planes were lost but no confirmation of lost rafale

As per French : Atleast 1 plane was down.

As per usa :7-8 planes.


Whom to believe

India said that their planes were downed but their officials explained that they were unable to confirm the number because ‘operation is ongoing’ only a total retard would believe that BS excuse. Anyone wanna guess what % of Indians believed it?

 

[TAC]

Even to this day, there is uncertainty of who shot down what/when and how an aircraft was actually lost from as far back as WWII. There is ongoing debates when they discover old planes in locations and dig up bodies of fighter pilots from that era. That is the reality of aerial combat. All claims are denied until you have access to wreckage itself. Until then, all claims are claims. There is no such thing as 100% certainty. Only people who really know how many aircraft were lost, are the IAF, and they have no incentive to talk and be truthful.

Well they accepted that their jets were downed but still refuse to confirm the number. Question is if it was just 1 or 2, why wouldn’t they confirm? Why resort to laughable excuses like, we can’t say because ‘operation is ongoing’. Clearly the number is embarrassingly high.