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[VCheng]

But you and your ilk repeatedly call him Taliban Khan whenever he opposes these military operations in favor of other more peaceful solutions.

The problem is that his approach causes lots of other complications that create even bigger headaches in the long run. Hence, not sufficient by itself, but then IK never was able to build together any broader efforts to deal with all the ramifications of what he wanted to do. It is not surprising that he failed, utterly and disastrously, with his Taliban approach.

 

[VCheng]

Coincidentally I wanted to give you this exact same example for Imran Khan’s absurd situation.

IK and his followers have only themselves to blame for being in a position where they keep claiming the millions in the popularity bank all the time but nothing to actually show for it.

 

[Forsvaret]

IK and his followers have only themselves to blame for being in a position where they keep claiming the millions in the popularity bank all the time but nothing to actually show for it.

Yepp. Cannot be said better

 

[VCheng]

Yepp. Cannot be said better

You are probably too young to remember anything like this, but I am sure the older folks will recognize the punch line from an old joke dating back to the time of partition that went something like "meray dada key bahut barey podeenay key bagh they, magar sab kuch waheen reh gaya - lekin abhi chai kaa half set udhaar hee dey do!".

 

[Forsvaret]

well well well .... what do you know .

Pakistan military establishment’s official account is run from US too :

 

[Goenitz]

The problem for IK has never been lack of public support but rather how to effectively channel that support into a meaningful change. That is his biggest weakness to date…

It is Pakistan's public problem and dates back centuries. Locals never protested for any change in Dehli or Lahore. They just aligned themselves to the new ruler, whether it were Khilgis, Turk, Mughals, British, Sikhs, etc. Not a single mass uprising or mutiny. We lost half the wing, and still did nothing. If it weren't for GB scouts, locals and tribals, we couldn't liberate AJK.

The difference now here is that the public is connected to IK. They showed their desire for change in the 2024 elections. Against all odds, they supported PTI candidates. Beyond that, they couldn't protect their votes/rights.

 

[Meengla]

Well, I thought to post some more from the Dawn.com archives to 'enlighten' the pro Messiah Khan crowd here about the 'democratic' credentials of their Dear Leader. Saw much juicy posts about how, after the Establishment withdrew its support, so many of Imran's allies, who were coerced to join Imran, were deserting him. How the Opposition was targeted using the ISI.
But let's talk about the NCM Vote: Some analysts already knew that once an NCM was tabled, there was no way around it, such as in the article below. But Imran certainly had months to call Early Elections before the NCM but he didn't. Why not? Because he was too unpopular, too cowardly to face the public verdict. Why do I keep mentioning the NCM? Because Imran's actions then not only showed total disregard for the Const. of Pakistan but also showed how unpopular he had become by then. To call him even remotely a 'democrat' is an insult to democracy: He is no better than the Saddams or the Kims of this world!

RED ZONE FILES: All set for a collision course

Some govt officials have started to acknowledge in private that prospects of surviving this challenge from opposition are slim.

www.dawn.com

 

[VCheng]

Well, I thought to post some more from the Dawn.com archives to 'enlighten' the pro Messiah Khan crowd here about the 'democratic' credentials of their Dear Leader.

May I suggest it does not really matter what IK's followers think, as long as the public can see through their charade? Their inaction alone speaks volumes just how popular IK really is: Not enough to motivate people to do anything IK wishes.

 

[Forsvaret]

But Imran certainly had months to call Early Elections before the NCM but he didn't. Why not?

Because he had become too reliant on military establishment to keep the numbers checked for him in parliament.

He is no better than the Saddams or the Kims of this world!

Now that’s an exaggeration and smells of Bughz-e-Imran in & out.

 

[Cipher212]

IK and his followers have only themselves to blame for being in a position where they keep claiming the millions in the popularity bank all the time but nothing to actually show for it.

They have the vote bank. The Feb election proved it, but coming out on streets to protest in Pakistan is a whole new risk now. Hence PTI will never see any big street presence

You can be geo fenced and picked up, you could lose character certificate or nothing else you will just place yourself at risk.

I know a case of a PTI workers son who merely drove past CC House as 9 May happened. He didn't do anything besides slow down and take a few videos. This was enough to vanish him for 3 months until his father eventually tracked him down and bribed him out.


EDIT: How could I forget, the calls from unknown numbers too.

 

[Forsvaret]

Their inaction alone speaks volumes just how popular IK really is: Not enough to motivate people to do anything IK wishes.

I am not sure if you’re a part of PTI inner circle on social media like I do. As per my observation, it’s not that PTI supporters do not wish to follow their imprisoned leader to the letter. It’s more that they’re disillusioned with PTI’s leadership that is currently outside prison.

 

[Distant_Observer]

They have the vote bank. The Feb election proved it, but coming out on streets to protest in Pakistan is a whole new risk now. Hence PTI will never see any big street presence

You can be geo fenced and picked up, you could lose character certificate or nothing else you will just place yourself at risk.

I know a case of a PTI workers son who merely drove past CC House as 9 May happened. He didn't do anything besides slow down and take a few videos. This was enough to vanish him for 3 months until his father eventually tracked him down and bribed him out.


EDIT: How could I forget, the calls from unknown numbers too.

Taking videos and attacking military installations, what a great idea.

Which genius thought of that?

 

[Meengla]

May I suggest it does not really matter what IK's followers think, as long as the public can see through their charade? Their inaction alone speaks volumes just how popular IK really is: Not enough to motivate people to do anything IK wishes.

It matters: PTI's 'narrative' now mainly persuades in Western countries and in the blogspace and the Cultists work hard to dent Pakistan's image and its economy. You had pointed toward the medical doctor community in America as pro PTI. They are, but just one, of those powerful voices out to target Pakistan with the single goal to emancipate their Messiah Khan. It matters to dull their impact and it is working: Look at a Poll in another thread where now almost 80% votes say there is no future for PTI without Imran; three years ago, that Poll would have been different.

 

[Cipher212]

Taking videos and attacking military installations, what a great idea.

Which genius thought of that?

Sell these stories elsewhere please.


Army burnt CC House themselves and smashed the windows before protestors even got there. It was a setup.

On that day I personally witnessed people just walking across fortress bridge with zero resistance from the Checkpost outside Fortress and zero response of any QRF. Not to mention how deserted CC House itself was save for a few jawaan and staff.

Corps Commander himself had to escape via rear of the house and if I remember correctly, borrow someone's car.

 

[Meengla]

I know a case of a PTI workers son who merely drove past CC House as 9 May happened. He didn't do anything besides slow down and take a few videos. This was enough to vanish him for 3 months until his father eventually tracked him down and bribed him out.

Just now, tens of thousands of Pakistanis voted for Imran in the by-elections. Were they all 'genocided' like the 'genocide' of November 2024?