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Do you think PTI has a future without Imran Khan?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 19.6%
  • No

    Votes: 80 71.4%
  • Only if senior leadership is released

    Votes: 10 8.9%

  • Total voters
    112
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They have the vote bank. The Feb election proved it, but coming out on streets to protest in Pakistan is a whole new risk now. Hence PTI will never see any big street presence

As long as there is not enough of a street presence, I do not see PTI ever succeeding in what it wants to achieve in the time that it wants to achieve it. Much longer timeframes might work, but does IK have that much time? Statistically unlikely.
 
I am not sure if you’re a part of PTI inner circle on social media like I do. As per my observation, it’s not that PTI supporters do not wish to follow their imprisoned leader to the letter. It’s more that they’re disillusioned with PTI’s leadership that is currently outside prison. 🙄

Well, that makes PTI a one-man show by definition now, doesn't it? If that is the case, IK is not going to achieve much all by himself.
 
It matters: PTI's 'narrative' now mainly persuades in Western countries and in the blogspace and the Cultists work hard to dent Pakistan's image and its economy.
"Dent"? Lol
Pakistan’s bad international image and its sluggish economy speaks volumes of itself. So there really isn’t any need for any cultists to a put a further "dent" in it. 🙄
 
As long as there is not enough of a street presence, I do not see PTI ever succeeding in

While I don't deny that, per an analyst, about 20-24 seats were probably stolen from PTI in the 2024 elections, there is no denying that other parties too have their own vote banks and when they join hands against PTI, they are able to form a majority. In the 2024 elections, PTI voted 30%--larger than another party but the combined vote of PPP and PMLN make it to almost 50% of popular votes. And since 2024 elections, I don't think Imran's popularity has increased--probably on the contrary.
But the myth persists that Imran is 'the most popular leader of Pakistan'.
 
Much longer timeframes might work, but does IK have that much time? Statistically unlikely.
It’s gonna take decades to reverse Zia’s current Pakistan, just like it took decades to make it in the first place! 🙄
 
It matters: PTI's 'narrative' now mainly persuades in Western countries and in the blogspace and the Cultists work hard to dent Pakistan's image and its economy. You had pointed toward the medical doctor community in America as pro PTI. They are, but just one, of those powerful voices out to target Pakistan with the single goal to emancipate their Messiah Khan. It matters to dull their impact and it is working: Look at a Poll in another thread where now almost 80% votes say there is no future for PTI without Imran; three years ago, that Poll would have been different.

I can understand your concerns, but looking at the persistent failures of all the outside forces to actually achieve any tangible benefits for IK gives my position more credence IMO.

For example, how far did PTI get with its repeated efforts to stop or reduce remittances, or stop paying utility bills, or get UN or US Congress support other than lip service? Even all the similarities between Trump and IK that were purported did not work. Or with the Nobel Committee. Or Oxford. The list goes on and on.

Even this present thread started out as some sort of great moral outrage against noble women related to IK, but that turned out to be just another flight of fancy that does seem to be gaining any traction at all.

As expected.
 
Well, that makes PTI a one-man show by definition now, doesn't it? If that is the case, IK is not going to achieve much all by himself.
That’s right — which is why PTI’s successor after Imran Khan (Murad Saeed) has been in hiding for years…
 
I can understand your concerns, but looking at the persistent failures of all the outside forces to actually achieve any tangible benefits for IK gives my position more credence IMO.

For example, how far did PTI get with its repeated efforts to stop or reduce remittances, or stop paying utility bills, or get UN or US Congress support other than lip service? Even all the similarities between Trump and IK that were purported did not work. Or with the Nobel Committee. Or Oxford. The list goes on and on.

Even this present thread started out as some sort of great moral outrage against noble women related to IK, but that turned out to be just another flight of fancy that does seem to be gaining any traction at all.

As expected.

I think you and I are in agreement about the inflated popularity of Imran. And I agree with those failures of Imran to create pressure points on the govt/Establishment. No questions about that.
I believe the only cards Imran is left to play with are using the resources of the K-P govt and his so-called Pashtun credentials as ethnic blackmail.
 
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