H-1B visas must end’: Wife of US citizen shares plight of landing IT jobs

@nang2

The same Q again. Why has Pak not been able to build the "human trafficking supply chain"? If it can build a supply chain for supply of beggars in Saudi Arabia why not code coolies for the West?

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It is a chain. Indians hiring Indians forms a chain. Indians hiring non-Indians would not form a chain. Too many branches.
 
@delta2

Four years is a very short period of time.

Sure, lets revisit this thread 4 years on

So the USA can have 25+ Million STEM graduates within 3 to four years if they wish to

So, why have they not done already? Who is stopping them?

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Greedy business owners.

But you severely underestimate the AngloSaxons' sense of identity and their perception of their own collective well being.

The AngloSaxons are almost like a ruthless alien race from one of those scifi alien movies. You better pray and hope they do not become reactionary. They are the same people that systemically identified the Japanese and put them all in camps during the WW2. Before that they enslaved the Black people for 400+ years and before that they systematically and systemically wiped out most of the Native populations in the whole of North and South America. They are the same people that tricked the Czarist Russia into fighting the Ottoman Turks by promising them Istanbul and as the Russians were reaching Istanbul they AngloSaxons overthrew the Czar and installed their puppet Bolsheviks.

They are the same people that, while never exceeding 200,000 in numbers at any point in time during the Raj easily ruled South Asia numbering in 300 Million and beyond. The AngloSaxons almost have a telepathic sense of collective self interest.

For all we know all of the brown people could be put on ships to be deported within the next four years.

So you better hope strategic affairs calm down before they get out of hand cuz a Brahmin mind is like a football for the AngloSaxon mind.
 
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Because India has been successful in building the human trafficking supply chain. Neither Pakistanis nor Chinese are as successful.
The Chinese people already did that 100s of years before Indians even knew where North America was.
 
Can't say there is some truth in your post especially with Pakistanis feeling left out--hey, both countries are at each other's throats all the time-- except Indians climbed up mostly using shady practices otherwise Indian techies are not something special. On the contrary, per my own experience. There is the English language advantage but so do several other countries have that, especially from the British Commonwealth countries.


America became great because of its European heritage, including smart European immigrants.



Unfortunately for India, the bad, even outright filthy, social behavior exhibited by Indians in India and abroad has been noticed, especially in Canada. Not that Pakistan is all that great but, boy, Pakistan seems so much civilized and clean compared with a very large part of India and many Western tourists who go to both countries are starting to notice that.
The biggest reason was the 9/11 zionist controlled demition of the Twin Towers for insurance money and to steal more $$ from USA coffers. The Zionists were in a complete and total control of the USA and wanted to kill/destroy as many Muslims as possible based on their whacky prophecies of forcing the appearance of their Messiah. They also shadow banned Pakistan despite Pakistan being an "ally". It was reported on the older PDF forum that there were years where Pakistani companies were completely shadow banned from getting any contracts whatsoever, while the same Zionists were promising India the moon and everything beyond delusionally thinking that the Brahmins could ever challenge China, so in their mind the Racist Zionists were killing two birds with the same stone, and both the Zionists and the Brahmins were happy that they found a loving, obediant unquestioning follower in Bhraminist India. They managed to kill millions of Muslims but only ended up exhausting the USA and now they are in a winner-take-all fight against the AngloSaxons in the very same America.

In an AngloSaxons vs the Zionist cage match, the history shows that the AngloSaxons will wipe out the Zionists.
 
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The Chinese people already did that 100s of years before Indians even knew where North America was.
We still do that. But those are mostly lower rung of the society. For them, nepotism means survival. More educated Chinese, like those working in IT, usually look down upon such practices. That is why we don't do as well as Indians.
 
@delta2

Greedy business owners.

Understood. But why do these greedy business owners opt for Indian code coolie to save costs and not Pakistani code coolies?

It was reported on the older PDF forum that there were years where Pakistani companies were completely shadow banned from getting any contracts whatsoever, while the same Zionists were promising India the moon

This hypothesis explains why IND IT exports grew much faster than PAK in the post 2001 period. But what about pre 9/11. IND IT exports in 2001 were about USD 1.7 billion while PAK was only USD 50-100 million range. What explains IND's outperformance in IT pre 9/11. Remember PAK was much closer to US than IND pre 2001.

I am of course assuming that the reports on old PDF of PAK companies being shadow banned are correct in the first place.

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H1B renewals. People can't apply for H1Bs only companies can and most non Indian hires have easier time getting Green cards. So obviously a lot of Indians will be on H1B for a long time due to country caps in green cards. Most of these are low IQ takes and misinformation. Entry level jobs going to H1B, what entry level position offers $160k salary.
 
@delta2

Greedy business owners.

Understood. But why do these greedy business owners opt for Indian code coolie to save costs and not Pakistani code coolies?

It was reported on the older PDF forum that there were years where Pakistani companies were completely shadow banned from getting any contracts whatsoever, while the same Zionists were promising India the moon

This hypothesis explains why IND IT exports grew much faster than PAK in the post 2001 period. But what about pre 9/11. IND IT exports in 2001 were about USD 1.7 billion while PAK was only USD 50-100 million range. What explains IND's outperformance in IT pre 9/11. Remember PAK was much closer to US than IND pre 2001.

I am of course assuming that the reports on old PDF of PAK companies being shadow banned are correct in the first place.

Regards
Nothing to do with Greedy business owners. Indians are widespread in services industry because they are able to scale up manpower very quickly, because there are so many of them they know back home. If you are a business owner in the IT industry, what is your biggest pain (apart from acquiring customers?). It is recruiting manpower. Now imagine you have a manager who says 'Sir, tension na lo, I will get you people.' Gotta love the guy no?

Historically, Indians also love to move up to managerial roles, because they have seen in India that it is the managerial guys who got paid well, never the engineers. That has changed now, but that generation still exists and is in decision making roles now. Goras and even Asians are quite content climbing the ladder in technical roles slowly.
 
H1B renewals. People can't apply for H1Bs only companies can and most non Indian hires have easier time getting Green cards. So obviously a lot of Indians will be on H1B for a long time due to country caps in green cards. Most of these are low IQ takes and misinformation. Entry level jobs going to H1B, what entry level position offers $160k salary.

Low iq? Really?

I bet that's wrong
 
@delta2

Greedy business owners.

Understood. But why do these greedy business owners opt for Indian code coolie to save costs and not Pakistani code coolies?

It was reported on the older PDF forum that there were years where Pakistani companies were completely shadow banned from getting any contracts whatsoever, while the same Zionists were promising India the moon

This hypothesis explains why IND IT exports grew much faster than PAK in the post 2001 period. But what about pre 9/11. IND IT exports in 2001 were about USD 1.7 billion while PAK was only USD 50-100 million range. What explains IND's outperformance in IT pre 9/11. Remember PAK was much closer to US than IND pre 2001.

I am of course assuming that the reports on old PDF of PAK companies being shadow banned are correct in the first place.

Regards
Only 50% of India's outsourcing business is from USA
 
Low iq? Really?

I bet that's wrong
Take MTGs claim for example. 80% of these are entry level jobs and goes to Indian and Chinese. No. 80% of them are renewals.

Dave brat claims 220k went one Indian district. Not only it didn't but these are consular numbers which covers entire regions and they don't issue 220k visa on H1B, the cap is 85k the 220k is renewals.

Another guy claims young Americans are competing with H1B, no. These companies have to publish classified ads in different platforms and interview Americans. Basically you won't find Americans to work in some small town as doctors in Kansas. But an H1B would. Same goes for Engineers, there is a talent demand in different sectors of the tech field, there is more demand than supply. It doesn't mean every coder is employed it simply means specialised fields have a demand for talent. Say in the AI field Indian Engineers are paid top dollars to work in those fields. Where did you think Elon Musk the MAGA guy found head of his FSD program. Do you think he will argue that he didn't need that guy? Or he was cheap labour to drive down wages?
 
Take MTGs claim for example. 80% of these are entry level jobs and goes to Indian and Chinese. No. 80% of them are renewals.

Dave brat claims 220k went one Indian district. Not only it didn't but these are consular numbers which covers entire regions and they don't issue 220k visa on H1B, the cap is 85k the 220k is renewals.

Another guy claims young Americans are competing with H1B, no. These companies have to publish classified ads in different platforms and interview Americans. Basically you won't find Americans to work in some small town as doctors in Kansas. But an H1B would. Same goes for Engineers, there is a talent demand in different sectors of the tech field, there is more demand than supply. It doesn't mean every coder is employed it simply means specialised fields have a demand for talent. Say in the AI field Indian Engineers are paid top dollars to work in those fields. Where did you think Elon Musk the MAGA guy found head of his FSD program. Do you think he will argue that he didn't need that guy? Or he was cheap labour to drive down wages?


No matter how many different ways you say it, I don't believe anyone is being convinced by it, more and more people are on the other side.


There is a good chunk that are not high skill but are just jobs Americans could do. Of the coding jobs, it's not as if America has no coders.

And why can't a graduate do a low-to mid-level coding job? Absolutely they can be involved in projects, especially top graduates relative to Indian graduates
 
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If it starts tugging at the maga heartstrings......

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Another guy claims young Americans are competing with H1B, no. These companies have to publish classified ads in different platforms and interview Americans.

Oh, Phhhlease! I myself had to train a team of Indian 'software engineers' H1Bs to replace me. No doubt they were working for much less $$. It was such an insult!! And I could feel that even those Indians replacing me probably were feeling a little guilty as I was 'orienting' them to the projects and the code. My whole team was gutted except for the Director, who was a white American and I don't think he liked the gutting but he had to worry about his own job. And that was a Fortune 500 company.
 

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