Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Yes, so you are aiding your enemy. The killer of Solemani and Khamenai Sr. And tens of other Iranian officials. For what are you giving your enemy such a gift?



Listen I’m not sure if you have ever done a business deal or hell sold something to someone. But if they tell you I will give $100 today and then the rest in a month or two. Guess what you will NEVER see the rest. It’s just a formality.

So the first 60 days Iran can act like a boss. But once the middle lane opens up then Iran is really just a mall cop with no powers.

And when Iran tries to secure a permanent deal then, Trump will play hardball and Iran will have to choose with closing the strait and going under an economic blockade or meekly trying to get some face saving concessions and giving up the strait.

This is Iran’s fault. They are the ones who made their red line the FULL control of the strait of Hormuz. And now once again they will let that redline be violated like the rest of the redlines they have set the past 30 years.
Arguing about this deal, any deal is a waste of breath. Because no deal will be honored. Iran can not be allowed to exist as an independent nation with any power. They will chip away until they get what they want. Two steps forward, one step back. Reload and repeat. With the this leadership in Iran they are on track.
 
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Qalibaf bends on Trump's demand and Trump humiliates him every chance. This agreement will inflict damage on Iran that dwarfs the Islamabad MoU. Watching this slow motion trainwreck is agonizing.
40+ years of non-stop humiliation, sanctions, sectarianism, widespread deaths, suffering and poverty for it to all come down to this stupid showdown. Iranian history in the 20th-21st century has just been plain pathetic and weird.
 
idk man, all the sunnis i know of admire Iran but indeed it is also true that all the Sunni nations are ruled by western puppets.
We are waiting for the day that Noble Sunnis overthrow their Zionist royalties and stop being Vassels for the Greater Israel Project. I know that they have terrible Secret police that butcher any opposition but we Iranians had to deal with SAVAK and we still overthrew the Pahlavi dictatorship.
 
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We are waiting for the day that Noble Sunnis overthrow their Zionist royalties and stop being Vassels for the Greater Israel Project. I know that they have terrible Secret police that butcher any opposition but we Iranians had to deal with SAVAK and we still overthrew the Pahlavi dictatorship.
What do you mean by 'we'? What goes in in other Sunni majority countries is their business, nor is it our duty to drag ourselves into their problems. Funny how you also mentioned SAVAK when I can name you countless elements within the IR that oppresses people. And trust me that is not a route you want to take.
 
I mean we as we Iranians got rid of that gutless coward Shah boy . and his SavaK terror police. We wish to see the day that they do that to their Dictators. If you don't like it, I know exactly why!!!
 
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Im sorry to offend your runnaway Royals. I know your kind fled Iran just so you can be like your beloved Shahan Shah!!!
 
I mean we as we Iranians got rid of that gutless coward Shah boy . and his SavaK terror police.
Gutless.... terror police....hmmm...Sounds like our government.
We wish to see the day that they do that to their Dictators. If you don't like it, I know exactly why!!!
Most Iranians are barely scraping by and just want to live a normal life, they could give a rats ass about that!
 
**** all you fake poors
Gutless.... terror police....hmmm...Sounds like our government.

Most Iranians are barely scraping by and just want to live a normal life, they could give a rats ass about that!
I know your kind wants Iran to surrender and become a "normal" slave country like all the rest of the world!
 
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Gutless.... terror police....hmmm...Sounds like our government.

Most Iranians are barely scraping by and just want to live a normal life, they could give a rats ass about that!
Your kind loves to talk about "Most Iranians" alot. No one elected you as the spokesman of "Most Iranians especially when we saw the largest funeral in Human history world calling for retribution.
 
Yes, so you are aiding your enemy. The killer of Solemani and Khamenai Sr. And tens of other Iranian officials. For what are you giving your enemy such a gift?

And the alternative is?
One cannot sit in an open ended conflict. Iran can now do reciprocal sanctions just because it controls the straits. The same companies that didn't do business or do business with Iran, do not get access. Ones who comply against Iran and want in...

I don't think you're thinking it through. This was the very leverage that US used to stifle competition... choke off dollars or dollar denominated transactions was and is essentially to choke energy of those states. Found in abundance in some places and not in others... with GCC complying and leveraging petro dollar... US stopped sale of Iranian oil by blocking the transactions... not the ships inbound through the straits.

This choke essentially ends that monopoly. Besides not allowing US or any allied warships access through the straits...

Of course, it will take time to consolidate and become systemic. What orange needs is a face saver he can sell...

Listen I’m not sure if you have ever done a business deal or hell sold something to someone. But if they tell you I will give $100 today and then the rest in a month or two. Guess what you will NEVER see the rest. It’s just a formality.

So the first 60 days Iran can act like a boss. But once the middle lane opens up then Iran is really just a mall cop with no powers.

And when Iran tries to secure a permanent deal then, Trump will play hardball and Iran will have to choose with closing the strait and going under an economic blockade or meekly trying to get some face saving concessions and giving up the strait.

This is Iran’s fault. They are the ones who made their red line the FULL control of the strait of Hormuz. And now once again they will let that redline be violated like the rest of the redlines they have set the past 30 years.

Iran has 60 days to institutionalize it's hold. There is no way any paper signed or any "truth social" meme going to dictate another burning bulk carrier in the straits. During that time it can arrange the chess board while keeping the eyes on the ball. Orange is teetering on the brink... saving the bond market right now by buying useless Yens!!
Trying to avert an energy crisis and global recession. Running debt like never before with empty coffers... and amongst the highest yields ever... remember last year treasury under Bessent was buying longterm bonds and converting them into short term ones... because they were relatively cheaper... in hopes that once the interest rates drop ... they'd swap them back on to longterm. It has backfired... they've a lot of short term reaching maturity, while longterm are peaking. You don't get it...
Oil markets are manipulated... in hopes that paper will never meet reality. This is not a permanent gamble.... the GCC money is on knifes edge... together with their western investments and now needs at home... they bet the wrong horse... and orange didn't bother with their losses... favoring himself over everyone else. Well, that means they for once are in a spot of bother as well... what to do when they never invested in a backup. Chinese economy is built on global demand... they don't want to burn the house down... they want to take ownership. They're learning on the fly as well... about their prospects.

So, yes... and there is much unsaid... needless to say... it only gets more complicated from here...
 
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And the alternative is?
One cannot sit in an open ended conflict.
Has deterrence been established?
Iran can now do reciprocal sanctions just because it controls the straits.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry. How many times do we have to go through this? When did they honor a deal with Iran last? Trump just threated decapitation. He is still demanding the Strait be "opened."

The same companies that didn't do business or do business with Iran, do not get access. Ones who comply against Iran and want in...
With the current political reality in Iran,

شتر در خواب بیند پنبه دانه گهی لپ لپ خورد گه دانه دانه


Iran has 60 days to institutionalize it's hold.
Wasn't that the plan in Islamabad MoU? Is this deja vu?
Oil markets are manipulated...
I mean, what do you base this on? Crude oil supply volume is barely reduced at all at this point. Any risk is factored in the increase in today's price compared to Feb 27. Looks like reasonable valuation to me.
 

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