SMASH SLBM Testing - Nov 2025

[Maarkhoor]

Your comprehension skills are worrying...

"CM" is a common prefix for Chinese export missile systems, but it's not the only one. Furthermore, different Chinese weapons manufacturers use different designations when exporting their weapon systems.


CM-401: Export version of anti-ship ballistic missile
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CM-302: Export version of anti-ship cruise missile
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Just to prove your ignorance first you come up with the excuse of CM / FC but when I argued you have another excuse. Bro gets up

 

[Deino]

I simply wanted the opinion of @Deino

Not others. If he is not aware of that video, he can just say sorry not aware. Remember...I also used the word "purported" to show.

I have a good memory. At the time, there were ZERO instances of Indian sources claiming that to be brahmos. In addition, all the brahmos footage at the time shared by Pakistan was indeed in daylight.

It could be the brahmos.....but we know for sure Pakistan did use the CM400AKG as well at night.

Thanks.

Sorry ... I'm a bit too busy on to many fields and indeed I am not aware of this video. Sorry.

 

[safriz]

I simply wanted the opinion of @Deino

Not others. If he is not aware of that video, he can just say sorry not aware. Remember...I also used the word "purported" to show.

I have a good memory. At the time, there were ZERO instances of Indian sources claiming that to be brahmos. In addition, all the brahmos footage at the time shared by Pakistan was indeed in daylight.

It could be the brahmos.....but we know for sure Pakistan did use the CM400AKG as well at night.

Thanks.

Who says CM 400 AKG were used at night ?

This video of the jet taking off with the weapons, seems to be at day or evening time. Not night.

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[kimjongun]

The CM thing is just naming mechanism for chinese missiles irrespective of their types like the CM 401(a AShBM) and CM 302(a supersonic antiship cruise missile)...
Stop derailing the thread plz and stay professional

 

[Michael]

Just to prove your ignorance first you come up with the excuse of CM / FC but when I argued you have another excuse. Bro gets up

Some people believe that "CM" in "CM-400AKG" stands for "cruise missile." I offered a correction, stating that it means "Chinese Missile." This is a common code used by China for exporting missile systems, but it's not the only prefix code.

Then, I listed a Chinese ballistic missile and a Chinese cruise missile, both starting with "CM." This fully proves the point I made earlier.

"FC" is a common code prefix for Chinese export fighter jets. But similarly, it's not the only prefix code. Similar examples exist.

So, who is the ignorant one?

 

[Michael]

Friendly reminder:

With the development of modern science and technology, the distinction between ballistic missiles and cruise missiles is no longer clear-cut. In fact, some missiles possess characteristics of both types. That is, part of their trajectory is characteristic of a ballistic missile, while another part is characteristic of a cruise missile.
For example:
The DF-100 missile. We generally refer to it as a cruise missile. But in reality, it has a composite trajectory, possessing characteristics of both types of missiles. Therefore, you could also call it a ballistic missile.

Therefore, debating this issue is not very meaningful.

 

[Liquidator]

Who says CM 400 AKG were used at night ?

This video of the jet taking off with the weapons, seems to be at day or evening time. Not night.

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Hi
Military professionals on this forum who were close to the heat during that time stated that was not the footage of the cm400akg strike on the s400s. I clearly recall reputable members saying it was a night mission...

Anyway....back to the SMASH.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Friendly reminder:

With the development of modern science and technology, the distinction between ballistic missiles and cruise missiles is no longer clear-cut. In fact, some missiles possess characteristics of both types. That is, part of their trajectory is characteristic of a ballistic missile, while another part is characteristic of a cruise missile.
For example:
The DF-100 missile. We generally refer to it as a cruise missile. But in reality, it has a composite trajectory, possessing characteristics of both types of missiles. Therefore, you could also call it a ballistic missile.

Therefore, debating this issue is not very meaningful.

if you were not Chinese, you would be lashed, laughed and cursed on, for saying this

some members here have some issues

 

[safriz]

Friendly reminder:

With the development of modern science and technology, the distinction between ballistic missiles and cruise missiles is no longer clear-cut. In fact, some missiles possess characteristics of both types. That is, part of their trajectory is characteristic of a ballistic missile, while another part is characteristic of a cruise missile.
For example:
The DF-100 missile. We generally refer to it as a cruise missile. But in reality, it has a composite trajectory, possessing characteristics of both types of missiles. Therefore, you could also call it a ballistic missile.

Therefore, debating this issue is not very meaningful.

Thats called Quasi Ballistic

 

[hnn]

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Do we remember when Aura Guy laughingly mentioned India fired BrahMos at us in the night (same night they hit Nur Khan) and that some of the missiles fell in Indian Punjab? The first announcement came at 01:50 AM (02:20 AM India) on 10 May, 25.

Reuters

YouTube Video

Given the time mentioned in the video on YouTube (02:50 AM India), the trajectory of the vector, and Pakistan's claim of BrahMos falling in India's own land - I think we now have partial video evidence that BrahMos did malfunction and fell in Indian Punjab

@bravo_1 @muhammed45 @Deino @Corax

 

[Corax]

Do we remember when Aura Guy laughingly mentioned India fired BrahMos at us in the night (same night they hit Nur Khan) and that some of the missiles fell in Indian Punjab? The first announcement came at 01:50 AM (02:20 AM India) on 10 May, 25.

Reuters

YouTube Video

Given the time mentioned in the video on YouTube (02:50 AM India), the trajectory of the vector, and Pakistan's claim of BrahMos falling in India's own land - I think we now have partial video evidence that BrahMos did malfunction and fell in Indian Punjab

@bravo_1 @muhammed45 @Deino @Corax

Great piece of work! Thanks for compiling. Like I've said, there's nothing in that video that would suggest it's CM400AKG, but rather resembles the flight trajectory of brahmos, but some Pakistani channels picked this up and labeled it as CM400 AKG.

 

[bravo_1]

Do we remember when Aura Guy laughingly mentioned India fired BrahMos at us in the night (same night they hit Nur Khan) and that some of the missiles fell in Indian Punjab? The first announcement came at 01:50 AM (02:20 AM India) on 10 May, 25.

Reuters

YouTube Video

Given the time mentioned in the video on YouTube (02:50 AM India), the trajectory of the vector, and Pakistan's claim of BrahMos falling in India's own land - I think we now have partial video evidence that BrahMos did malfunction and fell in Indian Punjab

@bravo_1 @muhammed45 @Deino @Corax

Possible, Bahwalpur attack was a mix of munitions, LM/CM-Scalp etc. However there was one BrahMos used to attack Bahwalpur mosque.

 

[MS Sandhu]

Friendly reminder:

With the development of modern science and technology, the distinction between ballistic missiles and cruise missiles is no longer clear-cut. In fact, some missiles possess characteristics of both types. That is, part of their trajectory is characteristic of a ballistic missile, while another part is characteristic of a cruise missile.
For example:
The DF-100 missile. We generally refer to it as a cruise missile. But in reality, it has a composite trajectory, possessing characteristics of both types of missiles. Therefore, you could also call it a ballistic missile.

Therefore, debating this issue is not very meaningful.

Cruise missiles are equiped with air breathing engines.
Ballistic Missiles have solid/liq rocket motors with in built oxidizers.

 

[muhammed45]

Wiki is not evidence and Even more so not solid since you ignore your own facts and avoid an answer to why this one should be a cruise missile, when it’s ancestor is clearly a ballistic Missile?

@Quwa

Looks like we need you here. God, this forum is filled bunch of nagging kids. Why should i even ask this question, but anyways.

What say you about CM-400AKG? Is it a cruise missile or a ballistic missile?

 

[Qadeer chaudary]

Both type of ships you mentioned are not ordered by PLAN.
Senodefence forum details the ships and ones ordered by plan or coast guard
These ships made by shipyard as technology demonstrators
Aside from jari
Many other types of usv have been made by private firms for technology validation

1. This new warship has only been revealed in photographs so far; there is no other reliable data or official information available. All information currently circulating on the internet comes from analyses and speculations by military enthusiasts.
2. From the photos currently available, it does appear to have a VLS (Vertical Launching System). However, the specific model of the VLS cannot be accurately identified from the photos. Some military enthusiasts believe it is the HT-1 VLS, not the AKJ16 VLS.
3. Previously, China unveiled the JARI-USV-A, which is equipped with the HT-1 VLS and explicitly stated that it can carry and launch numerous types of missiles, including the YJ-18 anti-ship missile. This USV belongs to the 500-ton class of vessels.

Based on the above analysis, if the PN is interested in this new light frigate, then, theoretically, there are no technical obstacles to it launching SMASH missiles. Of course, some technical adaptation work would still be required. However, if PN does choose it, then opting for the missiles offered by China would be a better choice.

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