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Do you think PTI has a future without Imran Khan?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 19.6%

  • No

    Votes: 80 71.4%

  • Only if senior leadership is released

    Votes: 10 8.9%
  • Total voters
    112
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Jango said:
I was discussing this exact thing with someone the other day.

IMO at that time, there was sufficient internal dissent against Musharraf, and Kayani had a role to play there too. Right now the ISI is too aligned, and so is the senior cadre (for the most part).
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But there is widespread dissent being claimed for some time, if you know what I mean. If that is true, then something might happen, otherwise those claims are false.
 
Jango said:
It isn't even a castle of Islam sadly.
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Yes, but "to some" it is! To some, crows are white, too. Getting someone to admit reality is never an easy task if their mind is already fixated.
 
Jango said:
You need to get out of the Imran phobia first my friend.
I in no way think he had some long grand vision (BTW, aap log hi us ka long term vision hamain bechtay thay, Faiz COAS for 10 years, shaitan as President, what not...and in the end we got Asim Munir for 10 years!)
Doing what you implore just means you are yet another revolving chair for the establishment. 2 saal baad jab N achi nhn hogi, to you'll bring some other concoction and see that fall flat in your face. And the cycle repeats. Is say nikalna hai bhi kabhi ya nhn? Ham ryasat kay rakhwalay hain! Gimme a break.
Thora Imran phobia say niklo so the world starts making sense
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There is no Imran 'phobia'. Maybe a revulsion for him, Nawaz and Altaf because of their shared characteristic of arrogance, aggressiveness and stupidity.
Imran is ONLY relevant to me because of his quarter century support for the extremists/terrorists in Pakistan's K-P and in Afghanistan. Pakistan's K-P can't get its political understanding right because Imran, since early 2000's, has been using the stupid 'We are killing our own to appease America' line. He is relevant to me only because he is using ethnic blackmail to try to improve his situation.

As to the bolded part: Don't worry, this time the govt ain't ending because the new Clerks in Charge know their duties--governance! And if they fail in them then will come the Danda. But I have confidence that Pakistan will improve by the time elections come in 2029.
 
Meengla said:
There is no Imran 'phobia'. Maybe a revulsion for him, Nawaz and Altaf because of their shared characteristic of arrogance, aggressiveness and stupidity.
Imran is ONLY relevant to me because of his quarter century support for the extremists/terrorists in Pakistan's K-P and in Afghanistan. Pakistan's K-P can't get its political understanding right because Imran, since early 2000's, has been using the stupid 'We are killing our own to appease America' line. He is relevant to me only because he is using ethnic blackmail to try to improve his situation.

As to the bolded part: Don't worry, this time the govt ain't ending because the new Clerks in Charge know their duties--governance! And if they fail in them then will come the Danda. But I have confidence that Pakistan will improve by the time elections come in 2029.
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He couldn't back up his arrogance.

PTI are worse than PPP. And that is quite the achievement because PPP run Sindh like central african warlords, the people get the bare minimum.
 
VCheng said:
The recent allegations are just another attempt, but one that shows that IK has been abandoned by the majority of his PTI stalwarts, hence the reliance on his sisters and a few within KP to try and raise mayhem wherever possible.

There will be an uptick in violence in KP in the short term, but as those incidences are dealt with, things will settle down and IK will be left with just about no cards to play.

This seems to be heading towards an endgame relatively soon.
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so, I saw the video of the chants of Shahadat Shahadat....


watching that Shia mullah leader evoking Karbala and comparing it with Imam Hussain's sacrifice made me throw up. I wondered if that hypocrite Mullah had any shame and remembered how shia pilgrims are executed on regular basis by people Imran and his party favors peace and accommodation.

there is no comparison of the Karbala sacrifice and this party that made a deal with previous establishment, participated and was complicit in torturing its political opponents and ruled exactly like any corrupt and inept political party has ruled Pakistan.

No, I am not against the release of Imran, I want his political incarceration ended.. it has been a miscarriage of justice, but the free use of Medina and Karbala is very disrespectful in my opinion because it makes a mockery of it since this same party justified everything during its own rule.
 
I*R*A said:
If you are referring to financial corruption then this is a blatant lie. If you are referring to moral corruption, no one can match people who used naked photos of their female opponent for election campaign.

However, no one matches PTI in their stupidity.
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Keep living in delusions. The chore is rotting in jail. More cases are coming.
On moral side, he is not just corrupt. He is a complete filth from top to bottom. Any dignified person would even allow this shit near his family. But Youth*yas are a different case. We have seen videos where a mother and her daughter wish to be in bed with this shit. Youth*ya = beghairat
 
Meengla said:
False.
But unfortunately, between Imran's expat Pakistani supporters, Indians and Afghans, there is a lot of false news going on with a singular goal to bring enough anarchy and economic disaster to Pakistan to somehow benefit Imran. The three entities' goals maybe different but strategies are similar and they echo each other.

This damning video about how Indians dominate Twitter using fake accounts. @gamaji

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This narrative was spread by the enemies of Pakistan through the accounts being operated from India, Israel, Afghanistan, etc. It shows their desperation.

It's not hard to observe that there is no major disturbance in Pakistan, enemy's failure in launching any successful major terror attack (sorts of APS terrorist attack) in Pakistan, Pakistan's marching ahead on diplomatic front, and Indians getting isolated/humiliated. The enemies of Pakistan, both internal and external ones, are getting desperate.

Modi's sindoor is still stuck in where sun never shines, Tejas humiliating fall in Dubai, and no outcome/effect of threatening statements by Indian leadership are all hurting the enemies a lot. Their individual and collective efforts are falling flat. Hence such stupid claims are not unexpected.
 
Meengla said:
Imran is ONLY relevant to me because of his quarter century support for the extremists/terrorists in Pakistan's K-P and in Afghanistan.
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If that's your total gain from his positions on the issue, and you are hell bent on seeing the world in black and white, then I don't think we even need to have a debate here.

You can call him whatever you want, attribute a certain position to him, and then keep hitting that boogeyman. Yeh bhi sahi hai.
 
gamaji said:
We have seen videos where a mother and her daughter wish to be in bed with this shit. Youth*ya = beghairat
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Have you also seen videos recorded by the military establishment from people’s bedrooms? Did you also call them Beghairat? 🙄
 
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