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[Khorasan Black Flags]

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[Shags101]

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i done know I hope it’s fake because all I’m thinking is if it’s real shrapnel flying that quickly in many directions at that height means deadly shrapnel falling rapidly on troops nearby l

 

[hasssanali8998]

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mfs made flak in 2025

 

[Deino]

Okay, more misinterpretations and lies. Make your own Telegram group and go spout your immature nonsense there. My group isn't secret, it's rather discreet. It's public, but searching by name is complicated; good luck finding it without a reference.

I won't say anything until it's out, but I WAS RIGHT!!! I'm waiting for official announcements, and I'll come back to ridicule certain people here. I've been waiting for this for a long time. People will judge who was more honest, who had more intuition. Sometimes it takes a long time, and announcements are slow in coming; we get attacked, but in the end, we win against the idiots. Then we'll see who's respected here.

Don't be mad at me and if this is actually true, then be allowed all your hubs in the face of critics like me, but at the moment you seem to me like a ghost driver who hears the warning on the radio that a vehicle is coming on the track and on it he calls "One? There are hundreds of wrong-way drivers on this track!”

Therefore since thru all the years simply NOTHING of these great announcements has come I therefore I will certainly not hold my breath.

 

[ToddE]

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F-5E armed with sidwinders flying over Dezful, some 70 KM away from Iraqi border during the war. Salute to the brave warrior, he could have faced AIM-120D3/C8 from across the border which he wont be even to look in his antique radar, but while machine failed them the IRIAF pilots kept flying, ground staff kept putting on mockups that wasted enemy SOWs. Little they had, but they used it well.

Look how morale of Iranians boosted seeing their own warrior defending them. If Russia failed to deliver, leadership should have forced IAIO to atleast MLU/upgrade local fleet of F-14A to F-14AM and produce some 100 Kowsars as ATs/light CAPs. While IRGCASF kept on pumping metal into Jew cities, these fighters would have ensured safety of Iranian citizens.

 

[Flotilla]

F-5E armed with sidwinders flying over Dezful, some 70 KM away from Iraqi border during the war. Salute to the brave warrior, he could have faced AIM-120D3/C8 from across the border which he wont be even to look in his antique radar, but while machine failed them the IRIAF pilots kept flying, ground staff kept putting on mockups that wasted enemy SOWs. Little they had, but they used it well.

Completely agreed. Flying that old machine only makes them still more brave!.

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

It is clear that the IRIAF's top priority is developing new radar systems for its fighter jets to manufacture more sophisticated missiles; the two are inextricably linked.

Targeting terrorists is also a pretext for real-world training by Iran. Israel has been active for years in targeting Gaza, barbarically practicing their methods.

 

[Piet]

Hope you're wrong but It is likely. At least Algeria have received this week x2 Su57 and a month ago some Su34. But they're VIP customers.

That is correct.

However, the tech, EW, and weapons loadouts will therefore also be 'out' there.

With that said, I wonder how the degraded (E) systems even, will compare to say a concurrent F-16C Blk 50 Viper?

Why do I wonder? For if the SU-35S fighters coming to Iran are similarly jacked up and armed (R-37?) and K/R-77M IZD. 180 + R-73/4, then it would really be a leg-up for the IRIAF along that porous Iran/Iraqi ALBM highway.

Piet.

 

[Piet]

It is clear that the IRIAF's top priority is developing new radar systems for its fighter jets to manufacture more sophisticated missiles; the two are inextricably linked.

<snip>

I read earlier in this thread that the Iranians have been busy developing an AESA fighter radar for some time.

If this is indeed so, does this mean that the Grifo E has fallen out of favour?

In that case one can argue that Kowsar is truly dead, and that the AF will operate principally Russian a/c henceforth that would have no need of Grifo E such as SU-35S, MiG-29 SMT, and YAK-130M.

Piet

 

[TallGuy]

It is clear that the IRIAF's top priority is developing new radar systems for its fighter jets to manufacture more sophisticated missiles; the two are inextricably linked.

Targeting terrorists is also a pretext for real-world training by Iran. Israel has been active for years in targeting Gaza, barbarically practicing their methods.

Importantly, Datalink which is secured at source. that is the real struggle! quite recently Iranians have found out that Emad that were launched in TP3 were spoofed at boost phase.

so, in all a major EW & Datalink that is secure at source is required. Entity depends on it.

 

[Piet]

I read earlier in this thread that the Iranians have been busy developing an AESA fighter radar for some time.

Iranian local IRST is called TR-1/TR-2 I think. They are produced locally and are used in Khordad TELARS. When Kowsar was first unveiled I did a piece on why HESA should have procured the airborne version from same company.

Just so: -

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iranian-electro-optical-and-infrared-sensors.670769/TIC-S-2 IIR.​

This sensor was (also) judged as being capable of fitting into a Saeqeh-like front - end. Its range is 150km head-on and 300km for departing targets.

... Also, at the same time Chinese CATIC was running Silk Route II project inside Iran with HESA to build Azarakhsh-II light fighter from F-5E parts. They previously built Azarakhsh-I in 1997 in collaboration as well, all with J-7N/E avionics. Later Local Iranian Kowsar fighter also showed chinese components esp the radar which may have been a NRIET copy of Italy Grifo-346.

So, as I have written elsewhere, there may still exist a modicum of production means for Azarakhsh-II, Azarakhsh-I. J-7N/E and Chinese components and radar for Kowsar. Which is or is not a dead duck (no pun intended).

Dozens of Iranian Locally produced VHF/UHF/PESA/AESA track radars bear striking resemblance to Chinese marketed ones, hinting towards deep collaboration. I am not sure why would Iran or China have issues with AWG-9 radar.

I suspect that the Chinese would have had interest in its hard and software. Possibly with an eye to gain some alternative, or improved insights, that could assist them in the development of their own AESA FCR.

Missile fuel is not civilian equipment. IRIAF chose SU-35S, there is no point in discussing J-10C.

Agree.

Piet

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

I read earlier in this thread that the Iranians have been busy developing an AESA fighter radar for some time.

If this is indeed so, does this mean that the Grifo E has fallen out of favour?

In that case one can argue that Kowsar is truly dead, and that the AF will operate principally Russian a/c henceforth that would have no need of Grifo E such as SU-35S, MiG-29 SMT, and YAK-130M.

Piet

Be wary of Wikipedia experts.

Iran has already demonstrated a red radar, which is an AESA radar for the Kowsar. In my opinion, the F-5's airframe and configuration make it a universal platform with many options at a reasonable price. This modernized aircraft becomes a superb aircraft for attack support and other operations.

It's also quite clear that engineers are learning a lot from Yak-130 components. Iranian engineers have a great talent for copying and improving things. I also suspect the Chinese have transferred fighter jet radars to Iran.

The Chinese are even more discreet than the Russians when it comes to transferring weapons and military parts to Iran. And I think the F-313 project is the one making the most technological progress; it's a long-term project that has been underway for years.

 

[ToddE]

Completely agreed. Flying that old machine only makes them still more brave!.

I mean non-Upgraded F-5E/F of IRIAF have no datalink, their nav-comm is antique from 1960s. Last upgrade they ever saw was under Project Ofogh where search range of its radar was increased to 65 km, even that happened 30-35 years ago before Azaraksh program was started to rebuild Iranian Tigers with Chinese J-7M/N/E like avionics.

Now, had it been a newly built Kowsar, they could have Searched and Track an F-15I at around 120 KM, could launch a jamming attack on its radar, could exchange the tracked information with HIMAD/SHORADs on ground or UCAVs in sky. If armed with Azarakhsh HOBS WVR and light BVR, a single squadron of 12 fighters can secure a border city in conjunction with IADS. They are advanced trainers level machines but can be utilized for point defence. Kowsar program died a terrible death due to budget cuts though.

This is why I believe YAK-130M/M2 should be purchased with full gear of R-73M and R-77. As much as they can, because these light fighters can create rings of air defence over cities while in peace time which is like always, they are training pilots for combat. YAK-130M/M2 should be purchased around ~70 airframes at least to replace the entire Iranian/American built Tiger fleet.

 

[ToddE]

Aviation week is saying that Iranian YAK-130 order is 36 airframes strong. Kinda reliable Iranian aviation OSINT have said in recent past that 18 have already arrived with their own light combat suite. I guess local F-5 production has been completely bundled up in favor of YAKs.