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[Forsvaret]

questions which I have listed, hinting that manifesto has the declared solutions, one has to be a toddler to say something like this!

You first give me a list of complex problems facing Pakistan since forever and then you expect of me to give you simple solutions.
It doesn’t work like that. PTI manifesto is hundreds of pages long where you can read all about what you just asked me above.

 

[Forsvaret]

So nothing on the major promises, only minor stuff. Still had corruption, still had to go to IMF, for example.

Yepp. He got only 3 years in power vs the military generals + Nawaz + Zardari who got decades at ruling Pakistan. Still, IK is the "worst" guy of them all.

 

[VCheng]

You first give me a list of complex problems facing Pakistan since forever and then you expect of me to give you simple solutions.
It doesn’t work like that. PTI manifesto is hundreds of pages long where you can read all about what you just asked me above.

Castles in the air do not make for good dwellings for real humans on the ground. Any manifesto is only as good as its actual implementation.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

You first give me a list of complex problems facing Pakistan since forever and then you expect of me to give you simple solutions.
It doesn’t work like that. PTI manifesto is hundreds of pages long where you can read all about what you just asked me above.

is there a thing called, 'dumb politicial activist'!

by my understanding, it is very pre-requisite to have a solutions for the problems faced by country first!


BTW, what good is any political activist, if they dont know even the problems faced by his country?!

 

[VCheng]

Yepp. He got only 3 years in power vs the military generals + Nawaz + Zardari who got decades. Still, IK is the "worst" guy of them all.

Yepp, who mouthed off to end "corruption in 90 days"? Was that a patent lie? He had far more than 90 days to keep his promise.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Yepp, who mouthed off to end "corruption in 90 days"? Was that a patent lie? He had far more than 90 days to keep his promise.

IK, is incapable of understanding the truth!

he learned History and politics from Oxford and was a cricketer!

unlike say, Manmohan Singh, who was a finance specialist, researcher and a deep philosopher!

what do you expect sir!


I have studied research papers written of Dr. Manmohan Singh BTW, when I was a student

 

[Forsvaret]

Castles in the air do not make for good dwellings for real humans on the ground. Any manifesto is only as good as its actual implementation.

For actual implementation, you also need actual power on the ground to enforce it. With military establishment of Pakistan constantly interfering & intervening in govt affairs, this task is simply ain’t possible to achieve. There is a reason why IK ain’t cutting no deal with military establishment now because he has already witnessed this systematic chokehold at the personal level while being PM of Pakistan.

 

[Forsvaret]

he learned History and politics from Oxford

Which also happened to be one of the oldest and top universities of the entire world!

 

[Meengla]

right, give him his PMship back!
it is always about power and money!
I will prefer dumb looter then over maniac populist!

The 'dumb looters' at least have learned their lessons the hard way to have some semblance of 'collective wisdom' unlike Playboy-Cricteker Mr. Know it All who never bothered to groom a real protege despite his '22 year old struggle'.

really?! IK started his politics on that premise
he never asked intervention from the same people he loathe now?!

Imran was asking for Bajwa to rescue his falling govt well into 2022 by coercing parties like MQM to not abandon him.

no I dont prefer 'mad populist and idealist' who would tell lies all day sitting beside odd women!

Imran's considerable reliance on his Witch Wife were already talked about while he was the PM of Pakistan. Such an odd mentality for an Oxford University graduate!

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Which also happened to be one of the oldest and top universities of the entire world!

I know many people from this uni, and I go to Quant conferences there!

I know who can get into these place, if they have the money!

 

[VCheng]

For actual implementation, you also need actual power on the ground to enforce it.

So IK had no real power to keep his promises? Poor fella. Teen saal siraf hawai fire kerta raha?

The lack of effective implementation merely shows just how much of a puppet he really was, despite all the claims of being hugely popular!

 

[Forsvaret]

Yepp, who mouthed off to end "corruption in 90 days"? Was that a patent lie? He had far more than 90 days to keep his promise.

And military generals didn’t have 70+ years to defeat India and retake Pakistan’s jugular vein of Kashmir? Did you also call that a patent lie? Or this kind of criticism is only reserved for civilian leaders?

 

[Forsvaret]

The 'dumb looters' at least have learned their lessons the hard way to have some semblance of 'collective wisdom'

Collective "wisdom":

 

[Forsvaret]

Imran was asking for Bajwa to rescue his falling govt well into 2022 by coercing parties like MQM to not abandon him.

He wasn’t. In fact, he took the vote of confidence himself from the parliament a year prior to that:

 

[Meengla]

So IK had no real power to keep his promises? Poor fella. Teen saal siraf hawai fire kerta raha?
The lack of effective implementation merely shows just how much of a puppet he really was, despite all the claims of being hugely popular!

Oh, Imran had the power. Multiple sources say the ISI was not only rounding up Imran's political rivals, journalists, influencing other entities of the society, even possibly the superior Judiciary but also Imran's Witch Wife acquired credibility because she was foretold what ISI was going to do next and thus, her 'prophesies' spoken to a dimwit like Imran, made her credible. No Pakistani PM I can think of was so much supported by the Establishment for many years before he was installed as the PM and considerable years after he became the PM.

Problem with Imran is his arrogance--something he shares with Nawaz and Altaf. He was so arrogant that even during the India-Pakistan conflict of Feb. 2019, he didn't want to attend the National Security Council meetings because he didn't want to be seen with the 'looters'. Yup, a sitting PM of Pakistan acting like that!!