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Do you think PTI has a future without Imran Khan?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 19.6%
  • No

    Votes: 80 71.4%
  • Only if senior leadership is released

    Votes: 10 8.9%

  • Total voters
    112
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I agree with you on the Objectives Resolution. I believe we discussed it last year. The constitution of Pakistan contradicts itself by being both secular and religious. It's almost comical how this document that unites the people is as confused as they are.
An ideological religious state like Pakistan simply cannot exist without a document such as Objectives Resolution. Didn’t I mention above that of all members of the constituent assembly, only non-Muslim members opposed it. Ironically, even the Ahmedi members supported it who were later declared non-Muslims in the constitution of 1973 (second amendment 1974)! 🙄
 
An ideological religious state like Pakistan simply cannot exist without a document such as Objectives Resolution. Didn’t I mention above that of all members of the constituent assembly, only non-Muslim members opposed it. Ironically, even the Ahmedi members supported it who were later declared non-Muslims in the constitution of 1973 (second amendment 1974)! 🙄

But see, Pakistan does exist with both secular and religious language. But let's be real, Pakistan's very self is far from being an Islamic society, so OR or not, it would go on.
 
Eliminating the immensely popular leader would not end the crisis; it would unleash one that the Pakistani state may not survive.

By Asif Ullah Khan
December 02, 2025

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Rumors about former Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan’s death in custody have once again exposed the deep mistrust that defines Pakistan’s political landscape. Officials have rejected the claims, calling them the product of misinformation campaigns. Yet the very speed with which these rumors spread tells a larger story.

Field Marshal General Asim Munir understands that eliminating Khan would be a self-destructive blunder that the establishment can ill-afford. Munir, in his long military career, has seen the disastrous results of the impulsive policies of his predecessors, such as Gen. Pervez Musharraf’s reckless actions, including the killing of Nawab Akbar Bugti in 2006 and the Lal Masjid operation in 2007. Pakistan is still reeling from the aftermath of these events.

Another reason the army cannot afford to eliminate a leader from Punjab — Pakistan’s biggest province and the army’s largest catchment area — is the political risk such an act would carry. Many observers believe that former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was allowed to go to England for medical treatment in 2019, after his blood platelet count dropped to a critically low level, because the establishment knew it could not provoke a backlash in Punjab by letting a Punjabi leader die in custody. This caution underscores a fundamental reality: the army’s power, recruitment, and legitimacy are deeply intertwined with Punjab’s political sentiment.

It is for this reason that the establishment could get away with Zulfikar Ali Bhutto’s hanging in 1979 or the assassination of Benazir Bhutto in 2007. Except for limited demonstrations in Sindh, the rest of Pakistan — especially Punjab — remained largely unmoved. The military faced criticism, but not a nationwide revolt nor a crisis that threatened its core constituency.

Khan represents a fundamentally different political reality. Although he is not ethnically a Punjabi but a Pashtun, Khan hails from Punjab. His support is national, spanning Punjab, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, and the global diaspora. His arrest in May 2023 triggered unprecedented scenes of unrest, including attacks on military installations — events unimaginable in any previous political confrontation. For the first time, the establishment witnessed direct anger erupting not in peripheral provinces but in Punjab itself, the heart of its recruitment base, administrative machinery, and political weight. Whatever the interpretations of those events, they revealed one unavoidably clear truth: eliminating Khan risks igniting political unrest of a scale the army would be unable to contain, especially at a time when the country’s economy is in the doldrums.

More importantly, eliminating Khan would create a martyr of unprecedented scale in Pakistani politics.

Bhutto and his daughter Benazir became icons in death, but their martyrdoms were largely confined to loyal party bases. Khan’s martyrdom would be qualitatively different. His appeal cuts across class, province, and age. He commands a digitally mobilized youth base that sees him not just as a political leader but as a symbol of resistance. A figure with this kind of emotional resonance does not disappear when eliminated — he expands. His movement would radicalize. The state would face the fiercest political backlash in its history.

The establishment knows this, and it remembers the Bhutto precedent well enough not to repeat such a disastrous course. Even with the expanded powers held by the military leadership today, political reality imposes limits that no institution can ignore. Imran Khan is not Bhutto in 1979, nor is this the Pakistan of 2007. He is a national figure with deep roots in the province that the state relies on most. Eliminating him would not end the crisis; it would unleash one that the state may not survive.

For all its strength, the military cannot afford that gamble. And that is why, despite the rumors, the establishment knows that removing Imran Khan is a risk far greater than any conceivable benefit.
First of all he is not immensely popular. It's a lie spread on social media by bots.

Secondly, any person, popular or otherwise, cannot be above the law of the land. A criminal is, in fact, a scumbag of the society who deliberately violates the rules set by the society.

A criminal belongs to jail and must be kept there. So is the case with Imran Khan Khotakhail. This criminal is a habitual offender. He committed many offenses against the society and the state of Pakistan. He is currently serving a jail term for corruption. Many more cases against him are currently proceeding at different stages of legal process. He is expected to be awarded more jail term in more cases.

The law must be allowed to take its natural course against Imran Ahmed Khotakhail and justice must be served to him. His popularity or lack of it must not have any effect on the legal proceedings against him.
 
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But see, Pakistan does exist with both secular and religious language. But let's be real, Pakistan's very self is far from being an Islamic society, so OR or not, it would go on.
That’s right. I’d personally classify Pakistani society as Islamic but only in rituals. The vast majority of people in Pakistan are praying, fasting, paying zakat, visiting Mecca for Hajj and performing all sorts of other Islamic rituals. However, apart from these symbolic rituals, there isn’t much Islam to be found there like we do here in the West with social justice, social welfare, equality, rule of law etc.
 
That’s right. I’d personally classify Pakistani society as Islamic but only in rituals. The vast majority of people in Pakistan are praying, fasting, paying zakat, visiting Mecca for Hajj and performing all sorts of other Islamic rituals. However, apart from these symbolic rituals, there isn’t much Islam to be found there like we do here in the West with social justice, social welfare, equality, rule of law etc.

In my limited understanding of Islam, the core principles emphasize the rule of law and compassion for others, advocating for not burdening anyone and promoting a live and let live attitude.
 
In my limited understanding of Islam, the core principles emphasize the rule of law and compassion for others, advocating for not burdening anyone and promoting a live and let live attitude.
That’s basically what we all have here in Scandinavian countries (Nordic Model) which IK has mentioned in his speeches as the true & practical version of Islam ☪️ aka a Welfare State 🇳🇴 🇸🇪 🇩🇰
 
I mean, you guys are like attacking PTI / IK as if it has ruled the country since 1947 while giving a free pass to military establishment which has actually done it for decades! You guys love blaming the establishment for bringing IK / PTI to power but can’t stop giving it credit for removing what they themselves brought in the first place. When I point out the good things PTI / IK has done, you’re skeptical. And when it comes to pointing out all the bad things about PTI / IK you believe them all as if it was some Quranic verse or something. What does your AI say about that behavior of IK / PTI critics? 🙄


I warned you before, dont test my patience!
 
Now that IK's sister has confirmed that he is well after meeting him, I wonder what steps will PTI be taking next, now that their latest reason to create mayhem has been deflated.

Good question!
Imran's strategy is to remain 'relevant': The more the noise, the more the economic stress, the more even terrorism in K-P, he remains relevant as an 'alternate' to the current lot ruling Pakistan.
 
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parha lo, kash may jarnail hota aur meri bhee accountability na hoti ..
 
Good question!
Imran's strategy is to remain 'relevant': The more the noise, the more the economic stress, the more even terrorism in K-P, he remains relevant as an 'alternate' to the current lot ruling Pakistan.

In other words, to try to create "nuisance value":

 
In other words, to try to create "nuisance value":


At this point I don't think he even cares about Pakistan, he is lost in the sauce and just wants to get one over his opponents.

One of the reasons nothing gets done in Pakistan. There is always infighting.
 
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