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Do you think PTI has a future without Imran Khan?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 19.6%
  • No

    Votes: 80 71.4%
  • Only if senior leadership is released

    Votes: 10 8.9%

  • Total voters
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. However I feel PTI is naive to see thru that currently it's not Imran Khan but rather a group of few who have grudge against army are spewing venom against the army and setting up narrative for PTI

We are still not sure wether Imran Khan have authorized these and some more to set this narrative against armed FORCES...
And how is these guys helping Imran Khan?

Enough blaming women like his Witch Wife or the fugitive journalists sitting in the West. It was already getting old with every good act as PM Imran was attributed to him and everything he couldn't do as PM Imran was because he didn't have the 'authority'. It IS Imran himself attacking the military and he started to attack in early 2022 and continued to do so for well over a year after his ouster from power while he was free--so no blaming his current imprisonment.
The guy simply couldn't digest that the same who propped him to power, removed their support.
 
Question for PTI fanboys: if he was such a great leader; why is there such little goodwill for him, even amongst Pakistan’s closest allies?

PTI fanboys think there is a worldwide conspiracy against Imran Khan, the world together vs Imran Khan alone.
 
Question for PTI fanboys: if he was such a great leader; why is there such little goodwill for him, even amongst Pakistan’s closest allies?

You jailed , tortured and murdered by the thousands.. you threaten with passport cancellation , arbitrary arrest, defanged the judiciary etc

Are you blind or stupid ?
 
IIRC, the May 9 attack happened while Imran was still free and loudmouthing about 'the Establishment'.


As to the rest of your post, including the bolded parts: You don't see how you are incriminating PTI itself. You must have know the inflammatory speeches by Imran and that Imran was advised to not launch the May 9 'protests' by saner members of PTI.
But then, of course, nothing ever Imran did was wrong: The nation's economy was smoothly progressing at 6%, Imran had shot down the Abhinandan fighter jet, foreign relations were good, Imran was forming a Muslim NATO with Malaysia.
All was hunky dory but Imran's fault was 'Absolutely Not' to America and for challenging 'the Establishment'. Right. That's all. <sarcasm>

Well, random people went out to protest that day, people with no connection with PTI but people who got disgusted by the fact that army grabbed a national leader from court (the cases themselves were nothing but joke anyways). Imran had no means to order protests. BTW, when courts / judges are pressured by ISI. Judge's relatives tortured, them being video taped, when media can't say a word then you got only one option that's protests. Its only way to seek justice in a system. But anways, the real culprits of 9th may were the ones who triggered the nation first and then shot down 30+ patriots of the country who were doing nothing but standing up to the state fascism. They are nation's true heros the martyrs of 9th May! They knew IK's wordings that army is also our own, so no one took up arms, no bullet was fired from protestors, no soldier was killed but Generals murdered 30+ citizens of my country.

Anyways, lets believe for a moment that IK was evil and was doing all bad things was a "yahudi agent" and a "playboy" and "taliban khan". So even then you guys had to replace him with a better regime and not with the WORST ever. You guys orchestrated a regime change, stole national mandate, and brought up a dictator for life who intends to lead armed forces for eternity. Well done, you got rid from IK and stuck with a REAL dictator. Now your Noonie leaders are not more worth then a dog of military general. Democracy destroyed, justice system wrecked, Govt comprises of losers in elections, no real representation of nation, no accountability system, no media freedom, no freedom of speech, constitution trampled, human rights bulldozed, army & airforce once again after decades bringing the culture of zero merit but Chaaploosi, as you can't even imagine to become COAS / CAS even if you are competent as those positions already occupied for life (thanks to puppet govt).

So yeah well done! just to remove a national leader where you brought down the country to.

Whatever policy IK was making, or however economy was progressing, or wherever the dollar and petrol was in his tenure let it be as it was his mandate for 5 years. People could have done accountability after 5 years via elections. But nope some treacherous, criminal minded people had to grab power one way or the other. In this game of power, the ones in power right now did every brutality not for Pakistan but their own lust of power. If you think they care for Pakistan or its progress then you are mistaken. All they care if their own power, their own property & business portfolio in and out of the country.
 
Just because he has the balls to take in the military by saying the truth openly he becomes an object of criticism

You guys are so full of $hit!! He started criticizing the military only when the military stopped supporting him!!! OMG! Go and look up some videos on You Tube and Dawn.com's archives: He was begging Bajwa into 2022 to coerce the likes to MQM to support Imran.
This liar you guys support, initially didn't even criticize the military: He focused his attention on America for his ouster, making a case that foreign powers were after him. And only when that 'Chooran' was getting bought by gullible Pakistanis and only when the military didn't support him, he started criticizing the military.
 
You jailed , tortured and murdered by the thousands.. you threaten with passport cancellation , arbitrary arrest, defanged the judiciary etc

Are you blind or stupid ?
If he really was who PTI fanboys made him out to be, at least the likes of China, KSA, Turkey, Malaysia would be speaking out for him. They weren’t involved in the regime change the way the US was.
 
Question for PTI fanboys: if he was such a great leader; why is there such little goodwill for him, even amongst Pakistan’s closest allies?

None of Pakistan's key foreign relations like Imran: The Chinese, the Saudis and the Americans. And those are Pakistan's most important foreign relations for various reasons.
 
You guys are so full of $hit!! He started criticizing the military only when the military stopped supporting him!!! OMG! Go and look up some videos on You Tube and Dawn.com's archives: He was begging Bajwa into 2022 to coerce the likes to MQM to support Imran.
This liar you guys support, initially didn't even criticize the military: He focused his attention on America for his ouster, making a case that foreign powers were after him. And only when that 'Chooran' was getting bought by gullible Pakistanis and only when the military didn't support him, he started criticizing the military.
You are wrong ..go back in time on how critical he was of military in their operations in KP under Musharraf and kiani. As PM yes he had to work with the military so why would he start criticizing for no reason so yea he needed them at that time. But of course if they do haram khori they will be criticized
 
Imran had no means to order protests

Imran indeed was part of a mutiny on May 9. It is totally believable that he would go to any length to grab power when, as a sitting Prime Minister of Pakistan, he was gravely risking Pakistan's economy by flashing the bogus Cypher claim in front of the world--a claim he later retracted from.
But WTF you expats living in Western countries care??!!!
 
You are wrong ..go back in time on how critical he was of military in their operations in KP under Musharraf and kiani. As PM yes he had to work with the military so why would he start criticizing for no reason so yea he needed them at that time. But of course if they do haram khori they will be criticized
He was never critical of the Army as an institution before, the criticism was limited to the likes of Musharraf etc. unlike what he did after the NCM, where he started attacking it as an institution.
 
You are wrong ..go back in time on how critical he was of military in their operations in KP under Musharraf and kiani. As PM yes he had to work with the military so why would he start criticizing for no reason so yea he needed them at that time. But of course if they do haram khori they will be criticized

Please give me instances of when PM Imran went after the military before 2022?? You have the access to Dawn.com archives.
 
He was never critical of the Army as an institution before, the criticism was limited to the likes of Musharraf etc. unlike what he did after the NCM, where he started attacking it as an institution.
He is still not critical of army as an institution. Problem is that the naive people think Asim is the institution.
 
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