PAF SAM based Air Defense System - News, Discussion & Updates

I remember when Turkey was trying to select an air defence system there was a news that only HQ-9 was able to intercept all 10 out of 10 targets.
 
In a pre-emptive brahmos strikes, all these major facilities may be knocked out. It is astonishing to think that Pakistan Military has not constructed hardened structures to safe guards ADs, Fighter Jets and AWACS assets. ASTONISHING !!
Pakistani aircraft have been in hardened shelters since at least the 1970s. It's neither a secret nor a surprise. The Indians know this too. It's quite strange how much misinformation is allowed to be posted on this website. It seriously diminishes the quality of discourse.
 
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LY-80 near Gujrat, after it was fired on some Indian drone.


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HQ-9BEs are fine. The bigger issue is that the majority of air threats Pakistan faced were at much shorter ranges, lower altitudes, and higher speeds than what the HQ-9BEs were designed for (a territorial, long-range and high-altitude system). That's why even the S-400 system uses a mix of SAMs (short-/med-/long-) to deal with multiple threat types; the PAF and PA air defence systems weren't architected along these lines.

The right approach for our environment is to greatly densify the short-to-medium-range layer, ideally with a very agile SAM (using TVCs), with lots and lots of units. For long-range we don't need 250+ km systems (unless we're planning to extend coverage into India), but a 150+ km system with TVC to deal with the threats (mainly supersonic missiles) we'll face.
 
They did hit LY 80 Launcher in Lahore. Not the Radar. Was the Walton airport drone strike.
Ok i remembered it wrong. I saw the videos of LY-80 missile debris, and thought India has hit a launcher. Upon digging , it looks like those were debris of fired missiles. Those fired at Indian drones.
 
Ok i remembered it wrong. I saw the videos of LY-80 missile debris, and thought India has hit a launcher. Upon digging , it looks like those were debris of fired missiles. Those fired at Indian drones.
bhai pls , dont give us heart attacks
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Directed energy weapons (lasers & high-power microwaves) make strong sense for Pakistan and India scenarios

Layer 1 – Directed Energy
  • Vehicle-mounted laser + radar + missiles
  • Lasers: drones, rockets, helicopters
  • Microwaves: swarm attacks, EW suppression
  • Cheap, fast, silent
Layer 2 – Modern AA gun systems designed for drones
  • Chinese LD-2000
  • Locally produced

Layer 3 – Short-range missiles
  • Against cruise missiles
  • Bad weather
  • High-value threats
Layer 4 - Long-range SAMs
  • Aircraft
  • Stand-off weapons
  • Strategic deterrence
This reduces missile usage by 60–80%, saving billions.
 
They did hit LY 80 Launcher in Lahore. Not the Radar. Was the Walton airport drone strike.

They hit some truck related to UAVs. LY-80 wasn't seen in area although some amatuer journalist recorded the HQ-9 driving out of Walton later on.
 
I will only say S-400 and leave it do at that. Nothing China produces holds even a candle to S-400.
Due to the trade surplus with Russia, China needed to use its ruble foreign exchange, and once purchased five sets of S-400s. After testing, the Chinese military found them inadequate and deployed them in the western regions. On the Russia-Ukraine battlefield, S-400s are frequently destroyed, which proves this point.
 

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