Yemen Civil War News and Discussion.. an evolving situation

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UAE has overtaken Qatar's previous destructive role in the region of the regional dwarf trying to divide and cause trouble in numerous Arab states. Qatar has now learned from such failed policies and are no longer doing what they once did. It is time for the leadership to treat UAE accordingly if they do not change their policies in the region. They have caused enough of harm in Sudan, Libya and in Yemen.

KSA could have annexed Al-Mahra and Hadhramaut years ago and worked towards the division of Yemen (that Houthis and now STC were always about - creating their two fiefdoms), but always supported Yemen unification and the official Yemeni government. Same story in Sudan.

Any way this is a developing story and there might be some agreements or schemes in place that we do not know about yet but regardless I do not believe that recent UAE policies in the Arab world can or should be tolerated. Their role in the region foreign policy wise has been destructive for quite a while to put it mildly. Let alone their ties to the Zionists.


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Now if the players in Yemen want to divide Yemen and rule their own fiefdoms, the prospect of a unified Yemen goes out of the window and thus KSA will take (hopefully) its pie (Al-Mahra and Hadhramaut) where most locals would support such a step.

This can be done easily militarily.

If STC/South Yemen separatists gain a long-term foothold, KSA should work towards throwing UAE out of Yemen completely.

They would not be able to prevent such a thing military as they are a 1.3 million big dwarf that does not even border Yemen unlike KSA.

What they and their allies in Yemen have done is treason as they chickened out against the Houthis and now instead of fighting/working towards Yemeni unification, they are trying to copy the Houthis and create their own fiefdom.

If they think that they can redraw borders of internationally recognized states (Yemen in this case), nothing prevents KSA from annexing said territory out of just security reasons and popular support as the case in Al-Mahra and Hadhramaut which any plebiscite would confirm.
 
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map of control of east Yemen

UAE-backed STC forces have control over the entire southern coastline and key land crossings
 
Hadhrami forces and likely Saudi Arabian forces (LAV 700 can be spotted) mobilizing in Hadhramaut.

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Nobody really has any idea about what is truly going on.
 
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UAE has overtaken Qatar's previous destructive role in the region of the regional dwarf trying to divide and cause trouble in numerous Arab states. Qatar has now learned from such failed policies and are no longer doing what they once did. It is time for the leadership to treat UAE accordingly if they do not change their policies in the region. They have caused enough of harm in Sudan, Libya and in Yemen.

KSA could have annexed Al-Mahra and Hadhramaut years ago and worked towards the division of Yemen (that Houthis and now STC were always about - creating their two fiefdoms), but always supported Yemen unification and the official Yemeni government. Same story in Sudan.

Any way this is a developing story and there might be some agreements or schemes in place that we do not know about yet but regardless I do not believe that recent UAE policies in the Arab world can or should be tolerated. Their role in the region foreign policy wise has been destructive for quite a while to put it mildly. Let alone their ties to the Zionists.


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Now if the players in Yemen want to divide Yemen and rule their own fiefdoms, the prospect of a unified Yemen goes out of the window and thus KSA will take (hopefully) its pie (Al-Mahra and Hadhramaut) where most locals would support such a step.

This can be done easily militarily.

If STC/South Yemen separatists gain a long-term foothold, KSA should work towards throwing UAE out of Yemen completely.

They would not be able to prevent such a thing military as they are a 1.3 million big dwarf that does not even border Yemen unlike KSA.

What they and their allies in Yemen have done is treason as they chickened out against the Houthis and now instead of fighting/working towards Yemeni unification, they are trying to copy the Houthis and create their own fiefdom.

If they think that they can redraw borders of internationally recognized states (Yemen in this case), nothing prevents KSA from annexing said territory out of just security reasons and popular support as the case in Al-Mahra and Hadhramaut which any plebiscite would confirm.

They represent a bigger threat to Saudi Arabia than the Houthis and Iran put together. Why is that? It's because they weaken Saudi Arabia's importance to the West and have created secret connections and backdoor communication paths with important figures in Western capitals by getting close to the Zionists. These people would even turn Washington hostile against the Saudis.

You need to realize that the Emiratis would even tear Saudi Arabia apart if it benefited them. In a sense, they are actually trying to surround Riyadh. Yemen, Somalia, Sudan, Egypt + Libya, and Israel/Palestine are geopolitical spaces currently being operated on by them. They do attempt to pressure Saudi Arabia, but in a much more subtle yet very effective manner.

In my opinion, this is all on MBS and his family. They allowed the UAE to operate without restrictions, thinking it would help their interests, but that is clearly not happening.
 
They represent a bigger threat to Saudi Arabia than the Houthis and Iran put together. Why is that? It's because they weaken Saudi Arabia's importance to the West and have created secret connections and backdoor communication paths with important figures in Western capitals by getting close to the Zionists. These people would even turn Washington hostile against the Saudis.

You need to realize that the Emiratis would even tear Saudi Arabia apart if it benefited them. In a sense, they are actually trying to surround Riyadh. Yemen, Somalia, Sudan, Egypt + Libya, and Israel/Palestine are geopolitical spaces currently being operated on by them. They do attempt to pressure Saudi Arabia, but in a much more subtle yet very effective manner.

In my opinion, this is all on MBS and his family. They allowed the UAE to operate without restrictions, thinking it would help their interests, but that is clearly not happening.
While UAE are a regional troublemaker, in particular of late (last 8-5 years), there is a limit to what a 1.3 million big nation can do. They are trying to copy the failed Iran playbook (proxies) that are undermining and trying to divide national states in order to create parallel networks that do their biding as seen in Libya, Sudan and now Yemen. They are doing this solely through monetary means. Not due to their strategic depth, military power, human capital etc. That and aligning with the West and Zionists hiding behind the "Islamist/MB/terrorist etc." mantra that always will "sell well" in certain Western audiences and policy makers.

A good example is this well-known Maronite.

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They are an annoyance of late but in no way any threat.

Even if we assume that KSA has no influence within the STC, which is false as KSA was embedded within them with soldiers, bases, monetary support (to almost any anti-Houthi fraction), UAE will never have any real advantages above ours in all of those places you mentioned, least of all Yemen which they, unlike KSA, share no border with and have little ability to directly shape by putting troops on the ground etc.

This proxy game, aside from being a very unreliable method, is doomed to fail.

I have no doubt, as I wrote many years ago, that Al-Mahra and Hadhramaut is a red line for KSA and if the Houthis and STC are hell-bent on creating their own fiefdoms, KSA will adjust cause and work within this new reality (neither party wants a unified Yemen) and play the same game.

This could and might very well led to an annexation of Al-Mahra and Hadhramaut itself in a federal manner.
 
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UAE-backed STC forces have mobilised heavily in the east, particularly in Mahra on the borders with Oman.

Meanwhile, the Saudi-backed National Shield Forces withdrew at dawn from several key positions they had recently taken in Al-Mahra.

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Saudi-backed forces defect to UAE-backed forces
 
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UAE-backed STC forces have mobilised heavily in the east, particularly in Mahra on the borders with Oman.

Meanwhile, the Saudi-backed National Shield Forces withdrew at dawn from several key positions they had recently taken in Al-Mahra.

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Saudi-backed forces defect to UAE-backed forces

Those are several days old videos.

Also there is very little direct fighting between those factions. It seems coordinated on many fronts.

STC was/is connected to KSA as well. We literally fought next do each other for years with KSA deeply ingrained in all STC controlled territory.

This is about certain STC leadership that want to enrich themselves and use the South Yemen philosophy (deeply ingrained in the South for the reasons I stated earlier in this thread - discontent with lack of representation post 1990-unification to make it short + a different outlook on things due to cultural differences with the much more conservative and inward looking North), to grab as much land and to be the dominant player in the South. Yemen being extremely tribal, it is very doubtful that locals in Al-Mahra and Hadhramaut will accept them.

Also KSA evacuating from certain areas of Yemen is probably a direct message to UAE and the STC leadership, that their project is at risk of collapsing and being finished if KSA stops its economic and military support.

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Looks like Zionists are in cahoots with this recent move that is about further destroying Yemeni statehood.

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Any way, I strongly believe that a solution will be found between the anti-Houthi factions (so far no real infighting as I wrote - which is a great thing) and likewise within the Arab coalition. Diplomatically. This is also the ideal solution.

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The enemy is the cult in the North.
 
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Since the UAE-backed separatist assault on Hadhramaut, it was really only a matter of time before Saudi Arabia would make a U-turn on its military disengagement in Yemen.

That day has come today.

Yemen is being invaded by Saudi ground forces for the 2nd time in 10 years.

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Today, UAE-backed STC forces , alongside allied tribes, seized control of a strategic military site: the 11th Border Guards Bridge in Rumah town in northwest Yemen’s Hadramawt , close to the Saudi border.
 
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UAE has overtaken Qatar's previous destructive role in the region of the regional dwarf trying to divide and cause trouble in numerous Arab states. Qatar has now learned from such failed policies and are no longer doing what they once did. It is time for the leadership to treat UAE accordingly if they do not change their policies in the region. They have caused enough of harm in Sudan, Libya and in Yemen.

KSA could have annexed Al-Mahra and Hadhramaut years ago and worked towards the division of Yemen (that Houthis and now STC were always about - creating their two fiefdoms), but always supported Yemen unification and the official Yemeni government. Same story in Sudan.

Any way this is a developing story and there might be some agreements or schemes in place that we do not know about yet but regardless I do not believe that recent UAE policies in the Arab world can or should be tolerated. Their role in the region foreign policy wise has been destructive for quite a while to put it mildly. Let alone their ties to the Zionists.


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Now if the players in Yemen want to divide Yemen and rule their own fiefdoms, the prospect of a unified Yemen goes out of the window and thus KSA will take (hopefully) its pie (Al-Mahra and Hadhramaut) where most locals would support such a step.

This can be done easily militarily.

If STC/South Yemen separatists gain a long-term foothold, KSA should work towards throwing UAE out of Yemen completely.

They would not be able to prevent such a thing military as they are a 1.3 million big dwarf that does not even border Yemen unlike KSA.

What they and their allies in Yemen have done is treason as they chickened out against the Houthis and now instead of fighting/working towards Yemeni unification, they are trying to copy the Houthis and create their own fiefdom.

If they think that they can redraw borders of internationally recognized states (Yemen in this case), nothing prevents KSA from annexing said territory out of just security reasons and popular support as the case in Al-Mahra and Hadhramaut which any plebiscite would confirm.


Habibi, this is not a good look for the KSA.
A tiny emirate UAE is beating you in your own backyard. This is not only hurting to Saudi prestige, but indeed to Saudi security and national interests.
 
Habibi, this is not a good look for the KSA.
A tiny emirate UAE is beating you in your own backyard. This is not only hurting to Saudi prestige, but indeed to Saudi security and national interests.
You do not understand the dynamics in Yemen. Who is beating who? There are no UAE soldiers anywhere involved. Those are just opportunistic STC leadership that are riding on the South Yemen bandwagon that is doomed to fail without KSA support to begin with.

They are not the enemy of KSA either but fought alongside us since the very beginning.

It is a power game between STC leadership (Al-Zubaidi and allies + some tribes) and the PLC (official and internationally recognized Yemeni government) led by al-Alami and allies.

Also KSA is deeply ingrained within the STC itself.

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STC alienating locals in Hadhramaut and Al-Mahra will hopefully end with KSA deeply ingraining ourselves in this region of Yemen and long-term proposing locals to join KSA. Those are the two largest, richest (in terms of resources) provinces in Yemen and also the provinces with the longest coastline directly to the Arabian Sea. Sparsely populated as well so easily absorbed within KSA, without being a burden like the rest of Yemen would be. Widespread support for KSA among the people and long-standing and ancient ties with the Hadhrami people.

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"The Saudi flag in many places in #Hadramout is raised by the #Hadrami citizen, on the roads and streets and many of the houses, not just from today, this thing is from long ago."​

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"Statement of the #Kinda Tribes:The #Hadramout tribes reject the transitional occupation of Hadramout, and they affirm their readiness to defend the governorate against the transitional invasion. #Hadramout_Tribes_Alliance #Hadramout_Welcomes_the_Saudi_Delegation"
If UAE is behind this, I am happy about this as this means that their project in Sudan (RSF) will be defeated and everywhere else in the region. They really don't want to make KSA into an enemy. If they truly do that, they will lose everything in the region and return to their size. Frankly speaking, given their overtones to the Zionist (whole Abraham nonsense), very negative role in Sudan and earlier Libya, as well as general foreign policy, KSA will have the support of most of the region.

Recente KSA-Qatar meetings (high level, between leadership, intelligence service and foreign ministers) several days in a row is not a coincidence.

And there are elements within the STC, leadership included, that are unfortunately, most likely, supported by the Zionists.

Personally I have no animosity towards the Emirati people, they are our brothers and sisters, but their foreign policy in the last 5-8 years, has been shocking to me on many fronts and it is time to call it out despite this being uncomfortable, as they were always, largely, a friendly state and neighbor and fellow GCC/Arab state. I don't want confrontation with any Arab state, if this can be avoided but their recent policies, as I wrote, are highly destructive for the region.

It is the same goal of fragmenting Arab nations that UAE has been supporting in Sudan, Libya and now Yemen.
 
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You do not understand the dynamics in Yemen. Who is beating who? There are no UAE soldiers anywhere involved. Those are just opportunistic STC leadership that are riding on the South Yemen bandwagon that is doomed to fail without KSA support to begin with.

Also KSA is deeply ingrained within the STC itself.

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STC alienating locals in Hadhramaut and Al-Mahra will hopefully end with KSA deeply ingraining ourselves in this region of Yemen and long-term proposing locals to join KSA. Those are the two largest, richest (in terms of resources) provinces in KSA and also the provinces with the longest coastline directly to the Arabian Sea. Sparsely populated as well so easily absorbed within KSA, without being a burden like the rest of Yemen would be. Widespread support for KSA among the people and long-standing and ancient ties with the Hadhrami people.

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"The Saudi flag in many places in #Hadramout is raised by the #Hadrami citizen, on the roads and streets and many of the houses, not just from today, this thing is from long ago."​

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"Statement of the #Kinda Tribes:The #Hadramout tribes reject the transitional occupation of Hadramout, and they affirm their readiness to defend the governorate against the transitional invasion. #Hadramout_Tribes_Alliance #Hadramout_Welcomes_the_Saudi_Delegation"​


No need for chestbeating and dickmeasuring contest. By your own accord, UAE is the new regional troublemaker (which I agree with).
What is to stop Iran and KSA working together to curb their malign and destructive influence?
I think KSA and Iran should bury some hatchets and recognize there are areas of mutual interest, concerns and cooperation.
 
I was too quick when posting my message without actually writing what I wanted to write. My fault.

Here is what I wrote, which you did not quote and thus might have missed. Posting it again.

"If UAE is behind this, I am happy about this as this means that their project in Sudan (RSF) will be defeated and everywhere else in the region. They really don't want to make KSA into an enemy. If they truly do that, they will lose everything in the region and return to their size. Frankly speaking, given their overtones to the Zionist (whole Abraham nonsense), very negative role in Sudan and earlier Libya, as well as general foreign policy, KSA will have the support of most of the region.

Recente KSA-Qatar meetings (high level, between leadership, intelligence service and foreign ministers) several days in a row is not a coincidence.

And there are elements within the STC, leadership included, that are unfortunately, most likely, supported by the Zionists.
Personally I have no animosity towards the Emirati people, they are our brothers and sisters, but their foreign policy in the last 5-8 years, has been shocking to me on many fronts and it is time to call it out despite this being uncomfortable, as they were always, largely, a friendly state and neighbor and fellow GCC/Arab state. I don't want confrontation with any Arab state, if this can be avoided but their recent policies, as I wrote, are highly destructive for the region.

It is the same goal of fragmenting Arab nations that UAE has been supporting in Sudan, Libya and now Yemen."​
No need for chestbeating and dickmeasuring contest. By your own accord, UAE is the new regional troublemaker (which I agree with).
What is to stop Iran and KSA working together to curb their malign and destructive influence?
I think KSA and Iran should bury some hatchets and recognize there are areas of mutual interest, concerns and cooperation.

No such thing from my part, just writing it as it is. UAE due to their limited geography (they do not border any country directly outside of KSA and Oman), tiny native/local/citizens population (just 1.3 million people), cannot challenge KSA long-term in Yemen or anywhere else for that matter. There is a limit to how many proxies you can successfully support across this large geography (Sudan, Libya, Somalia, Yemen etc.), what just money alone can do etc. I predict, and I have said it in other threads, that they will eventually learn it the hard way and be forced to revisit some of their policies. Exactly like Qatar was forced to do after the 2017 blockade.

As for Iran, frankly 46 years of distrust and often big political differences and proxy wars is not going to be solved overnight.

At the same time there is amble opportunity for cooperation in areas of the region where we seem to agree or can reach a consensus. Seems to be the case in Sudan for instance.

Trust building mechanism, step by step, need to take place for at least 5-10 years before this relationship can grow because there is too much "bad blood" since 1979, for it to suddenly completely change.

What is your view of this, not to derail this thread, maybe a separate thread need to be created? Sadly there are no Saudi Arabian users around on PDF anymore, other than me (from what I am aware of) but if there were more of us, maybe some kind of dialogue could take place. Seen it on Twitter and Reddit but those are much larger forums.

Anyway, as I wrote many times before, KSA is focused on internal development (giga and mega projects, tourism, industrial and technological development, military, economic, Asian Games, Asian Winter Games, EXPO, World Cup hosting, numerous international sporting and entertainment events, Makkah and Madinah expansion, trade, defusing regional conflicts - see Sudan, Libya, Palestine etc.). In other words, after Vision 2030 and the social, economic etc. reforms, foreign policies have changed a lot.

Also Israel is now seen as the biggest troublemaker from the perspective of KSA and most Arab states. Prince Turki bin Faisal said it just recently during the Doha Forum a few days ago.

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But yes, KSA-Iran cooperation has a big potential indeed, never denied this, nor was I against it. Millenia old ties with Southern Iran, Arab-Iranian community, cultural, linguistic, religious, ancestral/DNA ties, neighbors, big economic potential and most Saudi Arabians and Iranians, when they interact, get along very well unlike what most outsiders would think. My problem was always with certain Iranian government policies in the Arab world. Which I believe that you are already well, aware of, lol. I like most Saudi Arabians, don't hate Iran or Iranians, unlike the many anti-Arab, anti-Muslim Iranians (who have likely never met any Saudi Arabians or Arabs in their lives), unless we are met with hostility but of course you have a minority of Saudi Arabians and Arabs who dislike Iranians for being Iranians but those people are very rare. Most Saudi Arabians have little knowledge or interaction with Iranians due to events since 1979 and mostly only in Makkah, Madinah or in UAE ironically. Or the West.

But I found it telling that the most viewed video by Mister Taster (probably the most famous Iranian Youtuber - food stuff) was his videos in KSA.

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