Yemen Civil War News and Discussion.. an evolving situation

yes, the natural and inevitable outcome in Yemen is exactly as you say, returning to pre-1990 borders of north and South Yemen.

Majority of the sunnis in Yemen are sunni sufi shafis. Not Ikhwanis or Wahabis but petrodollar and weaponary given to other movements makes it like they are Majority. The sunnis and shias of Yemen don't mind coexistence, they are not extremists. Unfortunately foreign powers are making people fight. Just like what was done in Syria and Libya, every nation wants a slice of cake.
 
Turkey supports the Ikhwani Islah movement, so they are involved on the Saudi side but not yet a big player. The same method was followed in Syria where Saudi backed rebels and Turkish ones jointly finished off Assad.

Saudi faction attacked Islah, they aren't really too much of a factor now.
 
Saudi faction attacked Islah, they aren't really too much of a factor now.

Same in Syria and Libya, so many times Saudi backed factions fought with Turkish backed ones. But today Syria is jointly ruled by pro Turkish Saudia USA factions. In Libya and Yemen the conflict is ongoing.
 
Same in Syria and Libya, so many times Saudi backed factions fought with Turkish backed ones. But today Syria is jointly ruled by pro Turkish Saudia USA factions. In Libya and Yemen the conflict is ongoing.

No real Turkish faction in Yemen. Only Saudi, UAE and Iran.
 
Just as I predicted many years ago and even told a few Arabized trolls on the old PDF who have/had no clue about Yemen, zero influence, nor is Yemen or any internal Arab affair their business to begin with, but the 2014 civil war, aside from being instigated by the Houthi terrorist cult against a weak and divided Yemeni state that was still "recovering" (it was always an incompetent regime - hence the state of Yemen) from the "Arab Spring", was/is essentially a North-South divide and civil war. The South, due to a smaller population, despite holding most of the country's resources, strategic ports, coastline and most importantly territory, always felt marginalized after the unification in 1990 and was always underrepresented politically, which caused resentment towards the more conservative, inwards looking and majority Zaydi North. While the South was always more cosmopolitan and open to the world given the deep and ancient seafaring tradition of the South and large global diaspora.


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Not to mention British influence in the South.

Which is why I always predicted the eventual disintegration of Yemen as a state.

Ideally KSA should annex Al-Mahra and Hadhramaut or offer them some kind of self-rule or a federal status within KSA. Much like what the Russians did in Donetsk and Luhansk. The only thing UAE can do in Yemen and anywhere else for that matter is just financial and military support. They have no geographic or demographic (less than 2 million natives) depth not to mention that they are located far away from Yemen while we share an almost 2000 km long border with Yemen.

Most locals would give their right arm and right leg to join KSA in a federal capacity given the dire economic situation of the locals.

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It is where most of Yemen's oil, gas and natural and mineral wealth is located. Sparsely populated which is another benefit. Key strategic coastline and direct access to the Arabian Sea and wider Indian Ocean.

North is barren (resource wise), overpopulated, mountainous and of no great strategic use. Also a huge economic burden for anyone to manage.

The largest Hadhrami diaspora (origin wise but now long ago naturalized) in the region is also located in KSA and they have a lot of political and economic influence. Ties with tribal leaders, elders and people of importance in both provinces are very strong.

This above is doable if their is political will or if the leadership deems it necessary in case of Yemen further fragmenting which everything points towards.

Just make a plebiscite in Al-Mahra and Hadhramaut with one single question; "Do you wish to join KSA in a federal capacity, yes or no" and I am almost certain that the vast majority would agree. If the case, use this as an incentive to establish yourself further and establish sovereignty. Use the Russian playbook but without the military/killing part.

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What should never be accepted is for Yemen to be "eaten" by others (even fellow Arabs) right in front of our own noses. We are the ones with the biggest stakes in Yemen long-term and the ones with the closest historical ties to it as well. Having a perpetually failed state of this size, population (Yemen will have a huge population in the future), historical depth and ties with us, highly strategic location, is simply not acceptable.

Moreover everything that works towards the unification of Arabia into a single powerful nation, regardless of under which banner this occurs short-term, is always a good thing.

Whether we like it or not our destiny and future are intertwined therefore the first and most important priority should be to create a strong, prosperous and secure Yemen and if KSA annexing parts of a Yemen that is breaking apart by itself, helps this, short and long-term, while also gives KSA certain benefits, this should be pursued.

@The SC opinions?
 
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There are many players in Yemen. Iran backs the Houthi Zaidis who are anti zionists but are not extremists.
Saudia/Qatar/Usa/Turkey back the wahabis and Ikhwanis who are like Jolani types, extremist terorrists.
STC are anti Islamist and are secular nationalists backed by UAE.

I think a deal can be made by Ansarallah and STC, to kick all the terrorists out of Yemen, bring a unity government friendly with all. But Saudia will never accept this, they want puppets in power, and not nationalists or anti zionist factions.
I like that thought. They chould just bring peace to Yemen.
 
UAE is not a real country and will be annexed again by KSA eventually in the future. Same goes for Kuwait, Bahrain and Qatar. Those countries/territories have been part of ancient civilizations, cultures, empires, caliphates, kingdoms etc. founded by people from KSA or based in KSA for over 10.000 years. Since the first advanced cultures on earth (Natufian) emerged.


It was always a largely unimportant part of Arabia. To this day they (UAE) barely have 2 million native people for a reason.

Israel, another millennia old Arabian colony, is of no importance here. They are not a threat for KSA, never been and never will be.

UAE will be dealt with eventually if they cross certain limits.

KSA was always in favor of the unification of Yemen while other actors, Houthis included, wanted their own fiefdoms. If Yemenis are this stupid to disintegrate their country, KSA will not sit idle.

And things are already happening/being sorted out.

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Attack on Yemen will destroy Saud family. Its as we say, like pushing a piece of wood into colony of bees.

Moreover its not in long term benefit of KSA, on the contrary, its a colonial project of western powers to take control of Bab el Mandab.

Yemenis are proven warriors, there is not only no benefit in attacking Yemen but also it will be a giant swamp for the attackers.

Unfortunately i am hearing Sauds are going to make same mistake on Trump's order. Just imagine that Trump is not satisfied with only sucking the national budget of KSA, on the other hand, he is pushing the Saud family into fighting against Yemen.

While as we know already, the only threat and challenge to Saud's leadership in Arab world is UAE, a weak artificial state that can survive only through offering colonial powers with huge regional concessions. Such as what we saw with Yemeni islands.

Sauds have two options left as of now, first depend on people of Arabian peninsula and resist against extravagance of colonial powers or walk into chaos by Trump's lead. Destabilising south of Arabian peninsula is a never ending cycle of chaos. And it mostly benefits Israelis.

All Sauds need to do is a blind eye on Yemeni bombing of Israelis and say no to attacking Yemen with tonnes of excuses and instead cut off the head of snake in the region through taking control of that artificial state in Persian gulf.
 
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Ansarallah and STC can coexist
 
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The Saudi-backed forces do not appear to even be putting up any resistance against the STC. If reports of Al-Mahra governorate being surrendered over to the STC are accurate, the ex-regime based in Riyadh maybe left with little more than Marib to govern.
 
Attack on Yemen will destroy Saud family. Its as we say, like pushing a piece of wood into colony of bees.

Moreover its not in long term benefit of KSA, on the contrary, its a colonial project of western powers to take control of Bab el Mandab.

Yemenis are proven warriors, there is not only no benefit in attacking Yemen but also it will be a giant swamp for the attackers.

Unfortunately i am hearing Sauds are going to make same mistake on Trump's order. Just imagine that Trump is not satisfied with only sucking the national budget of KSA, on the other hand, he is pushing the Saud family into fighting against Yemen.

While as we know already, the only threat and challenge to Saud's leadership in Arab world is UAE, a weak artificial state that can survive only through offering colonial powers with huge regional concessions. Such as what we saw with Yemeni islands.

Sauds have two options left as of now, first depend on people of Arabian peninsula and resist against extravagance of colonial powers or walk into chaos by Trump's lead. Destabilising south of Arabian peninsula is a never ending cycle of chaos. And it mostly benefits Israelis.

All Sauds need to do is a blind eye on Yemeni bombing of Israelis and say no to attacking Yemen with tonnes of excuses and instead cut off the head of snake in the region through taking control of that artificial state in Persian gulf.
KSA won every war with Yemen.



There was no united Yemen back then anyway, just like today.

Nothing like that will have any impact on KSA, just like the Saudi Arabian intervention in Yemen between 2015-2020 (large scale aerial war and war on the ground pushing back Houthis from most of the territory they controlled prior to the intervention in March 2015).

KSA will annex Hadhramaut and Al-Mahra province as I said if Yemen disintegrates and most locals will support this step.

UAE cannot do anything other than support factions with money and weapons from abroad. They (RSF) will lose in Sudan as well.

KSA and Qatar have intensified relationship of late with several meetings between MbS and Tamim al-Thani with several high-ranking military meetings. Also the recent GCC meeting in Bahrain.

UAE cannot hide under the MB/Islamist nonsense label they push in Libya, Sudan, Yemen and everywhere else. They are using this rhetoric and tactic in order to get Western support but it will not work as they cannot remove political Islam from the Arab world.

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STC/South Yemen factions can control Aden and nearby areas but they are not wanted by locals of Hadhramaut and Al-Mahra. Their recent looting and bad behavior will not be tolerated either.

KSA is not going anywhere when it comes to Yemen as I already stated before and there are 100's of reasons for that, I also stated some of the crucial ones.

In fact KSA is a few calls to the Houthi leadership away from possibly formulating a deal with them where Houthis retain control of North Yemen (KSA will leave them alone and vice versa) while KSA will look the other way on Houthis attacking STC, while KSA will get Hadhramaut and Al-Mahra province. There are many ways of completely limiting UAE influence if they keep their retarded foreign policy in the region.

Checkmating them in Sudan (just with KSA and Egypt cooperation alone) is not that difficult either if really necessary to crush the RSF.

But preferably those internal Arab conflicts will be solved diplomatically which is preferable for everyone involved.

KSA, as I have written 100 of times, is the by far largest country in the region, the by far richest, hosting Makkah and Madinah (we do not need anything from anybody) and currently focused on the amazing growth of KSA on every front (economically, scientifically, technologically, industrial, economic, tourism), while building some of the largest mega and giga projects in the world, while also hosting in the near future events like World Cup, Asian Games, Asian Winter Games, EXPO and numerous other events. In other words, KSA is focusing on internal development.

Ideally KSA or another state or alteration, would unify all of Arabia for the betterment of everyone involved but that is the direction the GCC will eventually move towards with Yemen included once the locals grow up and realize that internal divisions, further breakup of Yemen etc. is a negative. But as I wrote, if Yemen continues to disintegrate, KSA cannot look silently at this and will pursue its own national interests. We cannot allow 2-3 failed states in what is today Yemen emerge with outsiders running around.

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UAE is playing with fire.

Without Western/Israeli protection, KSA could invade and annex UAE within a few weeks at most. There are just 1.3 million local Emiratis/citizens.

Also what is wrong with this Zionist Iranian Arab Ahwazi that is role playing as an Emirati (paid Twitter agent) now?

An embarrassment. Probably an MI6 agent, as he was based in the UK before.

 
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Meanwhile, the UAE-backed Transitional Council called for an open sit-in in Aden, southern Yemen, to demand the "Second Declaration of Independence for the State of the South."

What happened was the fall of nearly half of Yemen's territory in just a few days into the hands of UAE-supported forces, who took it from the forces loyal to the Saudi-backed hotel government, and primarily from the Muslim Brotherhood's Islah Party, in addition to some Medkhali Wahhabi groups and other tribes.

This Saudi-loyalist assembly still controls vast, nearly empty expanses in Hadhramaut, the northern Al-Jawf Governorate, Marib, and some parts of Taiz city and governorate, where the Brotherhood is primarily active.

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Just as I predicted many years ago and even told a few Arabized trolls on the old PDF who have/had no clue about Yemen, zero influence, nor is Yemen or any internal Arab affair their business to begin with, but the 2014 civil war, aside from being instigated by the Houthi terrorist cult against a weak and divided Yemeni state that was still "recovering" (it was always an incompetent regime - hence the state of Yemen) from the "Arab Spring", was/is essentially a North-South divide and civil war. The South, due to a smaller population, despite holding most of the country's resources, strategic ports, coastline and most importantly territory, always felt marginalized after the unification in 1990 and was always underrepresented politically, which caused resentment towards the more conservative, inwards looking and majority Zaydi North. While the South was always more cosmopolitan and open to the world given the deep and ancient seafaring tradition of the South and large global diaspora.


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Not to mention British influence in the South.

Which is why I always predicted the eventual disintegration of Yemen as a state.

Ideally KSA should annex Al-Mahra and Hadhramaut or offer them some kind of self-rule or a federal status within KSA. Much like what the Russians did in Donetsk and Luhansk. The only thing UAE can do in Yemen and anywhere else for that matter is just financial and military support. They have no geographic or demographic (less than 2 million natives) depth not to mention that they are located far away from Yemen while we share an almost 2000 km long border with Yemen.

Most locals would give their right arm and right leg to join KSA in a federal capacity given the dire economic situation of the locals.

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It is where most of Yemen's oil, gas and natural and mineral wealth is located. Sparsely populated which is another benefit. Key strategic coastline and direct access to the Arabian Sea and wider Indian Ocean.

North is barren (resource wise), overpopulated, mountainous and of no great strategic use. Also a huge economic burden for anyone to manage.

The largest Hadhrami diaspora (origin wise but now long ago naturalized) in the region is also located in KSA and they have a lot of political and economic influence. Ties with tribal leaders, elders and people of importance in both provinces are very strong.

This above is doable if their is political will or if the leadership deems it necessary in case of Yemen further fragmenting which everything points towards.

Just make a plebiscite in Al-Mahra and Hadhramaut with one single question; "Do you wish to join KSA in a federal capacity, yes or no" and I am almost certain that the vast majority would agree. If the case, use this as an incentive to establish yourself further and establish sovereignty. Use the Russian playbook but without the military/killing part.

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What should never be accepted is for Yemen to be "eaten" by others (even fellow Arabs) right in front of our own noses. We are the ones with the biggest stakes in Yemen long-term and the ones with the closest historical ties to it as well. Having a perpetually failed state of this size, population (Yemen will have a huge population in the future), historical depth and ties with us, highly strategic location, is simply not acceptable.

Moreover everything that works towards the unification of Arabia into a single powerful nation, regardless of under which banner this occurs short-term, is always a good thing.

Whether we like it or not our destiny and future are intertwined therefore the first and most important priority should be to create a strong, prosperous and secure Yemen and if KSA annexing parts of a Yemen that is breaking apart by itself, helps this, short and long-term, while also gives KSA certain benefits, this should be pursued.

@The SC opinions?
Hassani , you need to write short response please....you write long love letters.
 

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