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Do you think PTI has a future without Imran Khan?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 19.6%
  • No

    Votes: 80 71.4%
  • Only if senior leadership is released

    Votes: 10 8.9%

  • Total voters
    112
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Until the Establishment stops protecting the status quo and begins to push for genuine reforms, I will continue to raise these questions:

• Why is the judiciary compromised instead of strengthened?
• Why are reforms blocked while monopolies thrive?
• Why is the economy strangled by elite capture instead of opened for fair competition?
• Why are citizens denied justice while the corrupt enjoy relief?
• Why are voices for accountability silenced instead of protected?


I will keep asking, again and again, until:

• Institutions serve the people, not the powerful.
• The economy is stabilized through transparency, not patronage.
• The judiciary delivers justice to the innocent, not immunity to the corrupt.
• Reform becomes reality, not rhetoric.

Because silence is complicity and I refuse to be complicit.
 
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But when someone carries a Tasbeeh (Prayer Beads) and recites his every speech with Quranic verses and makes claims about 'Riyasat e Medina', at least some 'integrity' is not too much to ask for.
Those of us burned by General Zia's 'Islam' know such scoundrels immediately!

Exactly.

Gen Zia taught all those after him how to use religiosity like a master to fool the ignorant and the gullible in Pakistan.

You and I know. We were there. We saw it all.

And it still works in Pakistan, every damn time. Sadly.
 
PPP survived ZAB and BB because it was a real party with ideology, internal structure, district-level organisation and generational loyalty. PTI has none of that. It is a personality cult built entirely around one man. IK never groomed successors, never allowed independent leaders to rise and ran the party like a solo brand. That is why every major PTI figure scattered within days after May 9.
PTI is a new party and has become a force in politics last 10 years only , with its leader alive and engaged, so why would Imran Khan groom successors at this stage ? You have to establish your party in the first place.

You can make these kind of charges against people like Mullah Fazlur Rahman who has been head honcho of his party since 1995.
 
Why has the Establishment consistently compromised the judiciary, turning it into a shield for the powerful instead of a refuge for the weak?

Why do they block reforms and sabotage economic stability, rather than allow genuine restructuring of governance and markets?

Why is the priority not building institutions, but protecting vested interests?

Why do they kill competition by expanding army owned businesses, crowding out private enterprise and strangling innovation?

Why is the state treated like a corporate empire, where profit and control matter more than justice and public welfare?

Until establishment stop protecting status quo and work to bring or push for reforms, I will continue to raise these kinds of questions.

Since this thread is about PTI, how did PTI do with all your questions above during their tenure?
 
Exactly.

Gen Zia taught all those after him how to use religiosity like a master to fool the ignorant and the gullible in Pakistan
You and I know. We were there. We saw it all.
And it still works in Pakistan, every damn time. Sadly.

Nawaz Sharif also tried that with his 'Amir ul Muminoon' plan. It is always about power grab, using 'Islam' as crutches. And it seems the soil of central Punjab, with the likes of Zia, Nawaz, and Imran is quite fertile in creating such fake-Islamists.
 
Nawaz Sharif also tried that with his 'Amir ul Muminoon' plan. It is always about power grab, using 'Islam' as crutches. And it seems the soil of central Punjab, with the likes of Zia, Nawaz, and Imran is quite fertile in creating such fake-Islamists.

The fault here lies with the people, not the leaders who exploit them, in my view.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me time and again, I must be a totally unteachable idiot.

Fool 350 million people time and again, they are all utter idiots. Fool 350 million people time and again over decades and decades, they must have not long to survive in the 21st century.

This gene pool will find its chlorine sooner rather than later.
 
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PTI is a new party and has become a force in politics last 10 years only , with its leader alive and engaged, so why would Imran Khan groom successors at this stage ? You have to establish your party in the first place.
You can make these kind of charges against people like Mullah Fazlur Rahman who has been head honcho of his party since 1995.

Nice try. But a near three decades long political 'struggle' is not a short time and during that there was a long time for Imran to have made a proper political party when the Establishment was firmly behind Imran. He didn't trust anyone around him. He has just called some of his loyal party members 'Traitors' for attending a routine NDU Workshop. Those loyalists are not going to stay loyal forever. Your Messiah Khan is truly unhinged and I have been saying that for the last 2-3 years. You need to start focusing on the unhinged mind behind the guy instead of keep making excuses for his failures.
 
Since this thread is about PTI, how did PTI do with all your questions above during their tenure?

Remember, You ask for it.


Have you seen Navy SEAL training? They tie your hands and legs, then throw you into the water. The test isn’t just survival, it’s whether you can fight against impossible odds.

This is exactly what the Establishment did to PTI:

• They tied its hands with judicial compromises.
• They shackled its legs with bureaucratic sabotage.
• Then they threw it into the storm of a collapsing economy, expecting it to drown.

And when PTI still tried to swim, the Establishment pushed its head under water, cutting deals with cronies, suffocating reforms, and ensuring that no real change could surface.

This isn’t training, it’s systematic suffocation.

This drowning game didn’t begin with PTI. It began at the very birth of Pakistan:

• In 1951, Liaquat Ali Khan, the nation’s first reformist leader was assassinated, and the truth buried under Establishment silence.
• In 1965, Fatima Jinnah, the “Mother of the Nation” was vilified and cheated out of victory through rigging engineered by the Establishment.
• Since then, every reformer has been tied up, drowned, or eliminated while cronies and collaborators were rewarded.

For 78 years, the Establishment has treated Pakistan like its own boot camp, where the people are punished, while the elites are rewarded. Reform is never “impossible”; it is simply against their interests. They thrive on chaos, monopolies, and control, while ordinary citizens are left gasping for air.

The Record of Failure:
Remove PTI’s 3 years, what happened in the other 68?

• Any real reforms?
• Any functioning local body system?
• Any serious economic restructuring?

The facts are damning:

• Since 1947, Pakistan has taken 24 IMF loan programs between 1958 and 2024.
• As of November 2025, Pakistan’s public debt stands at Rs. 80.5 trillion (≈ USD 288 billion).• Domestic debt: Rs. 53–54 trillion
• External debt: Rs. 23–24 trillion (≈ USD 135 billion)

Is PTI and Imran Khan responsible for this mountain of debt? Or is this the direct result of 7 decades of collusion between the Establishment and their cronies in PPP and PMLN, a cycle of corruption, patronage, and elite capture?
 
What is very relevant to this thread is that the Imran Khan history began when the so-called rigging was done against him in the Feb. 2024 elections. They want a 'fresh start' after selling their bogus Anti-Americanism theory about Imran's ouster, they want to negate the support, and even coercion against Imran's foes which Imran had received since 2011 by the same Establishment which the Imran fanbois now curse. The History began with the Feb. 2024 elections. The Past is erased. The Future to be guaranteed. And why not? Because Imran said so!
But if I had even the slightest trust in the judgements of this very apparent maniac, I would put my faith him again. But I don't have even the slightest faith in him. I know the scoundrels who use religion of Islam for personal gains and Imran is yet another one of them.
May some Saroor Palace in Saudi Arabia welcome him against the Palace's desires.
 
It's difficult to choose between corrupt and incompetent...road to hell is paved with good intentions... corrupt will do better.
You deserve undergun salute and it must be towards your head

Three cancer hospitals, two universities, a World Cup victory, a unified national curriculum, 6% GDP growth during COVID, financial assistance of 14,000 rupees to every poor family, and exposing the entire corrupt system — including the political and elite class who have looted this country for decades.

And he had 3 and 1/2 year government and where 2 years were covid

Today, Pakistan stands at a simple point:
Either you are with Imran Khan, or you are against him.

If all this is what you call incompetence, then you truly do not understand what real leadership looks like.
 
Today, Pakistan stands at a simple point:
Either you are with Imran Khan, or you are against him.

Says who? You and a few social media echo chambers?

There is much more to Pakistan than one egomaniac and a bunch of social media influencers.
 
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