Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[hyperman]

Pkk is more of an umbrella group that has many overlapping beliefs much like the plo again I’m not saying I agree with the pkk anymore than I agree with jolani but thinking threats and more war is the way is just going to bring Syria to more ruin even if turkey backs it in a war let’s say trump decides to leave quietly in the night sdf(pkk) will give jolanis forces a far more fierce fight than Assads military who had no desire to fight for regime they didn’t want to die for anymore

No, the PKK is not an umbrella group, it ironically has a rigid chain of command. You should stop commenting on things you don't understand.

They are a threat to Syria's territorial integrity as well as occupy most of its resources, they need to be removed.

 

[Shags101]

No, the PKK is not an umbrella group, it ironically has a rigid chain of command. You should stop commenting on things you don't understand.

They are a threat to Syria's territorial integrity as well as occupy most of its resources, they need to be removed.

Your talking about the pkk im talking about the sdf which is recognized by America yess pkk makes the core but like everything else you evolve or die hts is made up many different people and groups from all over the world they evolved for better or worse yet to be seen

 

[hyperman]

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[hyperman]

Your talking about the pkk im talking about the sdf which is recognized by America yess pkk makes the core but like everything else you evolve or die hts is made up many different people and groups from all over the world they evolved for better or worse yet to be seen

bro... there is no SDF. Its PKK, the command structure answers to Qandil. lol

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[Shags101]

bro... there is no SDF. Its PKK, the command structure answers to Qandil. lol

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Again I don’t really pkk is the core but sdf is its official banner at this moment but yeah sdf is what most people will call it officially regardless of what people who have bias against a certain group or people again let me repeat im not pro pkk i know they have committed many horrible acts but so has many groups and people that are now part the new Syria so stating the truth honestly end of the day who cares what group did what yesterday as long as they really want a peaceful democratic stable Syria and they can come together to make that happen people saying turkey will come clean out the Kurds who currently are not seeking war but rebuilding their area but laugh at when people say why can’t turkey put troops to protect Damascus shows you that turkey at this moment would be afraid to even put troops to protect Syrias border on the golan but would attack Kurds that are not currently seeking war with turkey and are happily rebuilding their part of Syria in peace

 

[Shags101]

No, the PKK is not an umbrella group, it ironically has a rigid chain of command. You should stop commenting on things you don't understand.

They are a threat to Syria's territorial integrity as well as occupy most of its resources, they need to be removed.

Ok not talking about the pkk we are talking about the sdf which at its core is pkk
Yes, the
Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) is an umbrella group (or a coalition/alliance) of various militias operating in Syria.
Key details about the SDF:

• Composition: The SDF is a multi-ethnic and multi-religious alliance primarily composed of Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG) fighters, along with Arab, Syriac Christian, Armenian, and Turkmen groups.
• Leadership: It is militarily led by the Kurdish YPG, which is the main and largest element of the coalition.
• Mission: Formed in 2015 with U.S. backing, its primary mission has been to fight the Islamic State (ISIS) in Syria. It successfully defeated ISIS and took control of its former de facto capital, Raqqa.
• Political Alignment: The SDF serves as the official military wing of the Democratic Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria (DAANES), the de facto autonomous government in the region.

But you have your bias and don’t want to thin of it as anything but the pkk so like I said it’s not that I really care but since we can easily look up things it’s not really your opinion but facts

 

[hyperman]

Again I don’t really pkk is the core but sdf is its official banner at this moment but yeah sdf is what most people will call it officially regardless of what people who have bias against a certain group or people again let me repeat im not pro pkk i know they have committed many horrible acts but so has many groups and people that are now part the new Syria so stating the truth honestly end of the day who cares what group did what yesterday as long as they really want a peaceful democratic stable Syria and they can come together to make that happen people saying turkey will come clean out the Kurds who currently are not seeking war but rebuilding their area but laugh at when people say why can’t turkey put troops to protect Damascus shows you that turkey at this moment would be afraid to even put troops to protect Syrias border on the golan but would attack Kurds that are not currently seeking war with turkey and are happily rebuilding their part of Syria in peace

Listen, you really have no idea about the dynamics of the region. We are talking about the PKK, not "the kurds", the kurds are not a monlith, we are talking about a specific group and a specific chain of command. You know the PKK has been supressing other Kurdish groups right? It expelled the Syrian branch of the KDP and have cracked down on muslim kurds who express opposition to it. Furthermore, they are not controlling majority kurdish area, the overwhelming amount of areas are majority Sunni Arab.

Just compare the dark green areas(sunni arabs) and the area the PKK control yellow in the second map.

The PKK's goal is to build a state in Syria and then use that as a launchpoint to take Areas of South Eastern Turkey. They are also controlling all the Oil and Gas of Syria which is in Sunni Arab areas in Dier ez zor.

What you are suggesting is just not reasonable. No country would accept it.

 

[hyperman]

Ok not talking about the pkk we are talking about the sdf which at its core is pkk
Yes, the
Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) is an umbrella group (or a coalition/alliance) of various militias operating in Syria.
Key details about the SDF:

• Composition: The SDF is a multi-ethnic and multi-religious alliance primarily composed of Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG) fighters, along with Arab, Syriac Christian, Armenian, and Turkmen groups.
• Leadership: It is militarily led by the Kurdish YPG, which is the main and largest element of the coalition.
• Mission: Formed in 2015 with U.S. backing, its primary mission has been to fight the Islamic State (ISIS) in Syria. It successfully defeated ISIS and took control of its former de facto capital, Raqqa.
• Political Alignment: The SDF serves as the official military wing of the Democratic Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria (DAANES), the de facto autonomous government in the region.

But you have your bias and don’t want to thin of it as anything but the pkk so like I said it’s not that I really care but since we can easily look up things it’s not really your opinion but facts

Listen your two minutes of chatGPTing and posting AI slop is not equivalent to people who have been following this conflict for 2 decades now. since the beginning of syrian civil war. If you actually know of the dynamics of the "SDF" you would know tha few tokens are not equivalent to some sort of "mixed force" the overwhelming majority of the units are from the YPG, which is the Syrian branch of the PKK, please don't embarass yourself with Chatgpt copy paste stuff.

 

[Shags101]

Listen your two minutes of chatGPTing and posting AI slop is not equivalent to people who have been following this conflict for 2 decades now. since the beginning of syrian civil war. If you actually know of the dynamics of the "SDF" you would know tha few tokens are not equivalent to some sort of "mixed force" the overwhelming majority of the units are from the YPG, which is the Syrian branch of the PKK, please don't embarass yourself with Chatgpt copy paste stuff.

I’m not really embarrassing myself at all like I said it’s not just what your opinion of the group I honestly don’t have any feelings towards the group it’s like when people say at its core jolanis group isn’t full of quite many jihadists from around the world it’s just a fact these guys are coming from Chechnya china Europe and etc but we are to believe these guys should have a say in a new Syria more than Syrians be they Arab Kurd Sunni Shia or Alawites you have a bias against Kurds at least be honest about it even if it wasn’t pkk at its core you would be against it so……….like I said I honestly don’t care not mad or even the slightest embarrassed about anything your a moderator you should try to show some neutrality instead of trying to attack people…….ok

 

[Shags101]

Listen, you really have no idea about the dynamics of the region. We are talking about the PKK, not "the kurds", the kurds are not a monlith, we are talking about a specific group and a specific chain of command. You know the PKK has been supressing other Kurdish groups right? It expelled the Syrian branch of the KDP and have cracked down on muslim kurds who express opposition to it. Furthermore, they are not controlling majority kurdish area, the overwhelming amount of areas are majority Sunni Arab.

Just compare the dark green areas(sunni arabs) and the area the PKK control yellow in the second map.

The PKK's goal is to build a state in Syria and then use that as a launchpoint to take Areas of South Eastern Turkey. They are also controlling all the Oil and Gas of Syria which is in Sunni Arab areas in Dier ez zor.

What you are suggesting is just not reasonable. No country would accept it.

Again I never said anyone group or people should control anything threats and military action will just cause more death and destruction it will cost a lot more to retake said territory people say the civil war is over naa it’s just at a stalemate no one is taking over anyone’s territory actually peaceful discussion is the only way for Syria

 

[hyperman]

I said it’s not just what your opinion of the group

Its not my opinion, I literally showed you the CENTCOM general who was part of the rebranding. I can also cite the CIA files literally classifying the YPG as the Syrian branch of the PKK, before the Obama Administration decided to use one terrorist group to fight another terrorist group.

You don't know much about the Syrian Civil war outside of surface level stuff and think supplementing it with ChatGPT somehow makes up for it.

The only ones who support the PKK/YPG/SDF are the Neocons with their plots against the region and the Israelis. the PKK isn't liked by anyone in the region, that Includes Iran, where they were previous active in an insurgency, that includes the Syrians, the Iraqis, even the KDP doesn't like them.

Iran–PJAK conflict - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

They kill other Kurds that oppose them, idk if you know this.

PKK insurgency in Iraqi Kurdistan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You have done a great job of reading off the Chatgpt nonsense, ask it about Hezbollah or Iran and see if it gives a rosy assessment of Hezbollah when it pulls from Western aligned data. lol

The PKK was used by the US to prevent Assad from taking back the Oil fields in Dier Ez Zor, and to control and cut off traffic coming in from Iraq to Syria and onto lebanon. They have no other function but to partition the region and work as a conduit for Zionist interests, The Zionists would like the region divided as much as possible and conflict, so that it allows them to play one element against another.

 

[hyperman]

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Zionists are already plotting.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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Zionists are already plotting.

War is coming to Jordan/Lebanon/Egypt/Syria and also at some point Saudi Arabia, as to when these countries will wake up and realise they are ripe for the picking is an unknown of course. Each one of them is viewing this as an individual country issue and not a combined threat to all countries.

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The best thing Syria can do right now, truly is get as many people trained up on the KARAOK and drone platforms as possible, as any Israeli push will be a quest to capture more land with heavy vehicles. They are cheap, and Türkiye has local solutions that it can provide. We saw in Ukraine, how it is possible for ground forces to stunt the invasion of heavy vehicles with the NLAW and Javelin platform and drones.

 

[hyperman]

War is coming to Jordan/Lebanon/Egypt/Syria and also at some point Saudi Arabia, as to when these countries will wake up and realise they are ripe for the picking is an unknown of course. Each one of them is viewing this as an individual country issue and not a combined threat to all countries.

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The best thing Syria can do right now, truly is get as many people trained up on the KARAOK and drone platforms as possible, as any Israeli push will be a quest to capture more land with heavy vehicles. They are cheap, and Türkiye has local solutions that it can provide. We saw in Ukraine, how it is possible for ground forces to stunt the invasion of heavy vehicles with the NLAW and Javelin platform and drones.

Turkey is supplying weapons, but Syria is not ready yet, they need time. The good news is that Syria is not isolated like Gaza, and there are supply routes from Iraq and Turkey and the rest of the world.

What needs to happen is all the Sunni areas need to be consolidated. So they should delay any significant conflict in the south whether with the Israelis or even the Hijri puppet militia. Fortify Daraa in the south, with extensive tunnels and prepare for tunnel warfare. And in the meantime take back the land northeast of the Euphrates.

Only then when the only axis that is left is in the south will Syria be ready any type of conflict.

The one thing the Syrians have going for them is that as of now, the Israelis likely don't have Syria at the top of their list, the will likely fight in Lebanon before they fight Syria.

 

[eIsQengiz]

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As we celebrate the liberation of Syria from the Caesar sanctions, we extend our thanks to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and to this great man, His Royal Highness Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who has thrown his full weight behind supporting Syria globally. Many thanks for all the good efforts.