Gunman opens fire at crowded Australia beach, people rush for shelter

[Liquidator]

Or go back even further to the 6th century when Jews & Arabs battled during the earliest days of Islam?

 

[Mobius]

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[Forsvaret]

The alleged attacker, Pakistani national Naveed Akram, had studied at Central Queensland University and Hamdard University in Islamabad, details now being examined for potential international links.

More news reports are confirming the same:

The 24-year-old alleged assailant was identified as Naveed Akram, a Pakistani national, according to U.S. intelligence officials briefed on the investigation. CBS News has also reviewed Akram's New South Wales driver's license.

Australia Bondi Beach shooting suspects identified as father and son, ISIS flags recovered, officials say

A 50-year-old suspect in the Bondi Beach shooting was shot and killed by police and his 24-year-old son, who was investigated previously, is in a coma.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Falcon29]

I am Indian swedish American, none of that matters for this discussions purpose.

I did not draw any connection, the two murderers claiming to represent Palestinians matter, focus on that.

No they didn't claim anything nor do we know anything about motive

You're a troll

 

[PakSword]

Or go back even further to the 6th century when Jews & Arabs battled during the earliest days of Islam?

Why not start from even earlier.. from the time of Prophet Jesus (PBUH)? Or from their oldest recorded history in Old Testament?

 

[Shags101]

‘A genuine hero’: Unarmed Muslim bystander filmed disarming Sydney terrorist

Ahmed al Ahmed, 43, a local fruit vendor and father of 2, hailed as 'hero' by Netanyahu and Albanese after wrestling rifle from gunman during shooting

www.timesofisrael.com

I don’t approve of any killings of civilians I think those who go after killing people of any religion race gender or sexuality to be of weak individuals who chose the easiest of targets so I say it was wrong and disgusting for these two to have done this.

Can I say this though we have Netanyahu speaking of people making their countries antisemitic truth is most Australians don’t hate Jews anymore than they hate Muslims same as in America you have few random isolated evil incidents around the world and its shame on you but why does he and he government make inflammatory attacks on Arabs in their state and allow rampant attacks by settlers unchecked but somehow we are supposed to believe he actually cares about some dead innocent people in Australia.

Please scroll down this article and start reading these guys comments he’s a hero but wait he was just saving his own life I don’t think the user noticed the shooters back was turned away from him he didn’t have to risk his life another user asked Netanyahu how do you know he’s Muslim in could be Christian or Druze these people need to see a psychiatrist

 

[Musings]

Or go back even further to the 6th century when Jews & Arabs battled during the earliest days of Islam?

Is this related to the topic?

 

[Dalit]

Good Lord that was his dad......
What happens to these people? You go to a Western state to make a better life for yourself then commit an act which will make the lives of your own community difficult.

God knows what these bastards had in their heinous minds.

If they were doing this for the Palestinians, they don't give a shit and in fact couldn't even be bothered.

 

[Forsvaret]

Well start the clock when it aligns with reality.

Everyone has its own version of the "reality". Ask any Zionist or Israeli Jew, and their scale of reality would be entirely different from yours. Innocent Jews getting murdered in cold blood cannot and will not "justify" how innocent Palestinians are being treated by Israel. The rest is just mental gymnastics…

 

[Dalit]

Everyone has its own version of the "reality". Ask any Zionist or Israeli Jew, and their scale of reality would be entirely different from yours. Innocent Jews getting murdered in cold blood cannot and will not "justify" how innocent Palestinians are being treated by Israel. The rest is just mental gymnastics,

The truth is that this shouldn't even be a concern of some morons sitting in Australia.

It would be interesting to see what the motive was, but I wouldn't be surprised if these were crazy lone crusaders fighting for the Palestinian cause.

 

[Master Chief]

I have grown up with Muslims all around me, I have met and worked with muslims from around the globe, I kinda know.

If your point is how an Indian would know what Muslim names sound like , Punjab has been half split over this issue, here's a little reminder how I know about islam and respect it-a lesson given to Musharraf by a maulana-

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Pakistanis aren't the only ones who know Islam, get over it

Don't blame others for "your state" being split in half. Half of "your state" was inhabited by Muslims of that land who lived there since civilised life began. What do you think, just because you are Sikh and they are Muslim that you have some degree of leverage over them?

There always were and still are routes for you stateless people gaining additional autonomy and even an independent nation state of your own, but not by denying Muslim Punjabis their own birthright.

Your ancestors chose Hindustan. Live with that now, or do something about it instead of constantly whining here.

 

[Master Chief]

This is a very privileged American Jew born in money that's calling for deporting Muslims from the US. Muslims only make up 1% of US population.

She isn't saying that because this one-off event. She's been shouting it for years straight.

All because her severe insecurity about people not caring about Israel anymore.

According to her logic Muslims need to be deported so Americans can be forced to be pro-Israel.

Americans aren't anti-Israel because they care about Muslims. They're anti-Israel because Jews bring mass immigration of Latinos into the US and because Israel takes their aid money and makes them fight their wars.

She's coping hard

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The more they scream, the more panicked they are. We learned this off our friends to the east.

 

[PakSword]

God knows what these bastards had in their heinous minds.

If they were doing this for the Palestinians, they don't give a shit and in fact couldn't even be bothered.

Has the police released the information about their nationality? How can someone who holds a gun license for more than 10 years is not Australian and that the son studied at Hamdard University despite Australian universities being 80-90% subsidized for nationals and permanent residents?

 

[Falcon29]

They tend to "justify" it after witnessing Hamas & Islamic Jihad atrocities committed against innocent Israeli civilians, women and children. Recently released amnesty international report seemed to confirm it:

Israel/Occupied Palestinian Territory: Targeting Civilians: Murder, Hostage-Taking and Other Violations by Palestinian Armed Groups in Israel and Gaza - Amnesty International

This report documents abuses by Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups during the attacks of 7 October 2023 on southern Israel and the treatment of those seized and held captive in the occupied Gaza Strip. It concludes that the vast majority of civilians who died were killed by Palestinian...

www.amnesty.org

This is uncorroborated bullshit due to pressure by the US and Western governments. There was no 'sexual violence' whatsoever.

Hamas and Islamic Jihad did not commit any atrocities. It's legal to target Israeli military and state/security institutions/infrastructure. This is what Hamas and Islamic Jihad did and anyone else suggesting anything else can only find 1 or two examples of errors.

Or stuff some civilians from Gaza did after crossing border.

Meanwhile those that actually committed atrocities on unprecedented scale are the Israelis. Which is why this was declared a genocide :

Israel has committed genocide in the Gaza Strip, UN Commission finds

Israel has committed genocide in the Gaza Strip, UN Commission finds

GENEVA – Israel has committed genocide against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and Israel said in a new report today.

www.ohchr.org

 

[Forsvaret]

Good Lord that was his dad......
What happens to these people? You go to a Western state to make a better life for yourself then commit an act which will make the lives of your own community difficult.

Check what the attacker’s mother had to say. I think, they just shot themselves in the foot big time: