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Master Chief
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Mostly irrelevant pop quiz trivia that you're coming up with here. Judge the atheists, secularists, orthodox Jews, even the "Israeli Arabs" and the rest of them by their actions, not their brand labels.
Have we not learned from India that "secular" simply means hindutva in disguise?
Persian Gulf
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the religious Jews have a very high birth rate
"Israel's ultra-Orthodox (Haredi) population is rapidly growing due to extremely high birth rates (around 7 children per woman) and is projected to form a major part of the country's future demographics, potentially reaching 16% of the total population by 2030, 24% by 2050, and up to a third of all Israelis by 2065"
Liquidator
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Sarhang
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Netanyahu wants greenlight from US to strike Iranian ballistic missiles again
He's exploiting this incident
If they are actually serious about dealing with the ballistic missiles they need far more than just 12 days like last time.
There is nothing honorable about killing innocent people dude.
Not all Jews are connected to the IDF, Zionism, or any political project thats just a lazy generalization.
Only the mentally ill and brainwashed like ISIS or the mullahs justify murdering civilians.
The vast majority of people including Muslims just want to live their lives in peace and dont want anything to do with violence and murder.
Falcon29
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Nope. Hamas's Nukhba Force captured 180 soldiers. The other civilians were not taken by Hamas but by random civilians or other factions inside Gaza and gave them to Hamas to secure. By the time Hamas secured their safety Israel started carpet bombing Gaza. Hamas released civilians a few weeks later after Israel agreed to pause bombing for two hours.Did this military operation include capturing Israeli civilians, women & children, and later taking them back inside Palestinian territory as hostages?
Meanwhile Israel carpet bombed the entire place. 10,000 went missing in the first week under the rubble in northern Gaza. Journalists were being bombed. Hospitals were bombed and raided. UN shelters were being bombed. Death threats issues to journalists and journalists picked off one by one.
They turned off electricity and Internet in Gaza then began killing journalists and banned international media from entering Gaza.
You're trying to conflate Hamas with evil but it's far from it. While the Israeli government and military are actually evil.
Master Chief
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Are you for real? Seriously?
Categorically, the RSS (i.e. hindutva's spiritual progenitor organisation) has, since its inception in 1925, guided the strategic interests of firstly hindu chieftains and ultimately the nation state of Hindustan.
Read Ved Bhasin's accounts of how the RSS actually led and directed the Jammu pogroms of Muslims with the Hindu and Sikh ably manpower supplied by Hari Singh.
Anatomy of a Cover-Up: the 1947 Jammu Muslim killings and expulsions | Countercurrents
The Jammu province of the princely state of Jammu and Kashmir (1946) consisted of the Poonch, Mirpur, Riasi, Jammu, Kathua, and Udhampur districts.(Wikipedia map). On 14 August 2021…
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Now don't derail this thread any more.
samsite84
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On a thread which should be about nothing but condemning this act of terrorism, many members are twisting themselves to either justify actions or bring Palestine and other issues in the mix.
This was an act of terrorism by two loonies - who knows what was fed to them. May the victims rest in peace... And folks need to show respect to the fallen and stop themselves from posting vitriol against people who are different from them (religion or thinking)
This was an act of terrorism by two loonies - who knows what was fed to them. May the victims rest in peace... And folks need to show respect to the fallen and stop themselves from posting vitriol against people who are different from them (religion or thinking)
Muji.Iqbal
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Some more conflicting reports. The shooter was a former IDF soldier.
Was the Sydney terrorist attack a False Flag? The terrorist attack was carried out by Mossad to shift the blame on Muslims?
Master Chief
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Don't know why you're putting words into my mouth. Read my post again.
Dalit
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Where did you copy and paste this from?
Falcon29
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UN did same thing got pressured by the US to claim there was 'sexual violence'. Evidence instead showed Israeli forces and government committed sexual violence and rape and there was actual visual evidence of that.So, UN commission report "wasn’t" pressured by Western governments but Amnesty International’s report was? I thought, both institutions were part of the same Western-aligned world?
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October 7 'rape claims' debunked as Israeli propaganda unravels
Discredited stories and false first responder accounts — of beheaded babies, children hung from clotheslines, and infants put in ovens — were used to exaggerate events of October 7 and create backing for Israel's war on Gaza, AP reports.
Chaim Otmazgin had tended to dozens of shot, burned or mutilated bodies before he reached the home that would put him at the centre of a global clash and Israeli propaganda.
Working in a settlement that along with Israeli military facilities were raided by Hamas fighters on October 7, Otmazgin — a volunteer commander with ZAKA, an Israeli search and rescue organisation — saw the body of a teenager, shot dead and separated from her family in a different room. He "thought" that was evidence of sexual violence.
He alerted journalists to what he’d seen. He recounted the details in a nationally televised appearance in the Israeli Parliament. In the frantic hours, days and weeks that followed the raid, his testimony ricocheted across the world, mostly peddled by Israeli and sympathetic Western media.
But it turns out that what Otmazgin thought had occurred in the home at the Jewish settlement that was once an Arab village and a farm hadn’t happened.
Many accounts from that day, like Otmazgin's, proved untrue.
"It’s not that I invented a story," Otmazgin claimed The Associated Press in an interview, detailing the origins of his initial explosive allegation — one of two by ZAKA volunteers about sexual violence that turned out to be unfounded.
"I couldn't think of any other option" other than the teen having been sexually assaulted, he said. "At the end, it turned out to be different, so I corrected myself."
But it was too late.
Debunked accounts like Otmazgin's have encouraged skepticism and fuelled a highly charged debate about the scope of what occurred on October 7 — one that is still playing out on social media and in college campus protests.
Some allege the accounts of sexual assault were purposely concocted. ZAKA officials and others dispute that. Regardless, AP's examination of ZAKA's handling of the now debunked stories shows how information can be clouded and distorted in the chaos of the conflict.
As some of the first people on the scene, ZAKA volunteers offered testimony of what they saw that day. Those words have helped journalists, Israeli lawmakers and UN investigators paint a picture of what occurred on October 7. [ZAKA, a volunteer-based group, does not do forensic work. The organisation has been a fixture at Israeli disaster sites and scenes of attacks since it was founded in 1995. Its specific job is to collect bodies in keeping with Jewish law.]
Still, it took ZAKA months to acknowledge the accounts were wrong, allowing them to proliferate. And the fallout from the debunked accounts shows how the topic of sexual violence has been used to further political agendas.
Israel points to "sexual violence" on October 7 to justify its wartime goal of neutralising any repeated threat coming from Gaza. It has accused the international community of ignoring or playing down evidence of sexual violence claims, alleging anti-Israel bias.
TRT World - October 7 'rape claims' debunked as Israeli propaganda unravels
Discredited stories and false first responder accounts — of beheaded babies, children hung from clotheslines, and infants put in ovens — were used to exaggerate events of October 7 and create backing for Israel's war on Gaza, AP reports.
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maverick
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but a muslims saved the day, it has all the signs of false flag but now this false flag will lose steam as hero is a muslim
Forsvaret
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If anything, this incident proved that Muslims aren’t one single collective. The attacker and savior can both be Muslims at the same time. And this fact came completely out of syllabus…
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