Gunman opens fire at crowded Australia beach, people rush for shelter

That's my point: you believe despite evidence otherwise. You don't want to hear anything that contradicts your beliefs.
Ot once did you show any sign that raping women and killing children is a war crime. Not once did you condone that behaviour - yet you come on here and make insinuations of antisemitism? Stop being a complete tool.
You cant handle us in saying this attack was horrific - you cant accept a Muslim stepped in to stop more bloodshed.
We detest zionism.
I dont make it personal but you denying all the bad that the IDF committed makes you perhaps one of the lowest forms of human.
Your boys deliberately killed babies incubators and mass grave creators - killed people waiting for food deliveries and shot people in the back whilst praying.
You have no right to talk sh1t on here.
 
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Everyone condemns the terrorist attack in Sydney.

Time for this thread to be closed/locked now. Stupid, all those hard gains for the Palestinian cause will be stopped now because of this stupid terrorist attack.
Its ongoing yaar. We need to get to the bottom of what happened and why a man - working for the IDF in the past did this. Why is MOSSAD wanting to take over the investigation. The cockroach thats seriously ill in hospital - what has he to say?
Na bro there are enough questions unanswered
 

The Bondi Beach Tragedy

Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese at a press conference following the shooting at Bondi Beach.
Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese at a press conference following the shooting at Bondi Beach, at Parliament House in Canberra, Australia, December 14, 2025.(AAP/Lukas Coch/via Reuters)​

By The Editors
December 15, 2025 11:58 AM

This weekend brought another stark reminder of the dangerous rise of global antisemitism when two Muslim terrorists opened fire on a crowd of thousands of Jews who had gathered on Sydney’s Bondi Beach in Australia to celebrate the first night of Hanukkah. The terrorists killed at least 15 people, including a Holocaust survivor, a rabbi, and a ten-year-old girl. Dozens more remain injured.

We wish we could say this horrific event was shocking, but unfortunately, it is not. Australian authorities had been put on notice about the dangerous rise of antisemitism in recent years and have not taken the threat seriously. Just this month, the Executive Council of Australian Jewry warned about the rising tide of antisemitism, with annual incidents now five times what they were prior to the October 7 massacres. These have included arson attacks on synagogues, preschools, and other Jewish institutions. Jewish homes and cars have been vandalized with antisemitic messages.

The response by the Australian government has been to accommodate the anti-Israel mob while failing to protect Jewish communities. In August, the government allowed antisemitic protesters to shut down traffic on the Sydney Harbour Bridge, and then Labor Prime Minister Anthony Albanese recognized a Palestinian state.

The Hanukkah event where the massacre occurred was an annual tradition run by the Jewish organization Chabad that brings together Sydney’s Jewish community. Given the rise of antisemitism in Australia, one would think there would be a large police presence on hand, prepared to respond immediately to any threat. Instead, witnesses reported that police “froze.” The shooting continued for 20 minutes, enabling the gunmen to keep reloading. The death toll almost certainly would have been higher were it not for one heroic bystander, also Muslim, who crept up from behind one of the attackers, jumped on top of him, and ripped the long gun out of his hands.

The shooters were identified as Naveed Akram and his father, the Pakistani-born Sajid Akram, who came to Australia in 1998 on a student visa. In 2019, Naveed was examined by Australia’s intelligence agency for having strong ties to an Islamic State cell, but after six months, it was determined he didn’t pose a threat.

One would think such an egregious tragedy would make Australia rethink its immigration policies, its response to antisemitism, or its strategy of accommodating the pro-Hamas mob. Instead, Albanese has announced that Australia, which has among the toughest gun laws in the world, is going to impose even tougher restrictions on legal gun ownership.

Albanese expressed horror at the attack. But what did he think the mob meant by “globalize the intifada”?
 

The Bondi Beach Tragedy

Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese at a press conference following the shooting at Bondi Beach.
Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese at a press conference following the shooting at Bondi Beach, at Parliament House in Canberra, Australia, December 14, 2025.(AAP/Lukas Coch/via Reuters)​

By The Editors
December 15, 2025 11:58 AM

This weekend brought another stark reminder of the dangerous rise of global antisemitism when two Muslim terrorists opened fire on a crowd of thousands of Jews who had gathered on Sydney’s Bondi Beach in Australia to celebrate the first night of Hanukkah. The terrorists killed at least 15 people, including a Holocaust survivor, a rabbi, and a ten-year-old girl. Dozens more remain injured.

We wish we could say this horrific event was shocking, but unfortunately, it is not. Australian authorities had been put on notice about the dangerous rise of antisemitism in recent years and have not taken the threat seriously. Just this month, the Executive Council of Australian Jewry warned about the rising tide of antisemitism, with annual incidents now five times what they were prior to the October 7 massacres. These have included arson attacks on synagogues, preschools, and other Jewish institutions. Jewish homes and cars have been vandalized with antisemitic messages.

The response by the Australian government has been to accommodate the anti-Israel mob while failing to protect Jewish communities. In August, the government allowed antisemitic protesters to shut down traffic on the Sydney Harbour Bridge, and then Labor Prime Minister Anthony Albanese recognized a Palestinian state.

The Hanukkah event where the massacre occurred was an annual tradition run by the Jewish organization Chabad that brings together Sydney’s Jewish community. Given the rise of antisemitism in Australia, one would think there would be a large police presence on hand, prepared to respond immediately to any threat. Instead, witnesses reported that police “froze.” The shooting continued for 20 minutes, enabling the gunmen to keep reloading. The death toll almost certainly would have been higher were it not for one heroic bystander, also Muslim, who crept up from behind one of the attackers, jumped on top of him, and ripped the long gun out of his hands.

The shooters were identified as Naveed Akram and his father, the Pakistani-born Sajid Akram, who came to Australia in 1998 on a student visa. In 2019, Naveed was examined by Australia’s intelligence agency for having strong ties to an Islamic State cell, but after six months, it was determined he didn’t pose a threat.

One would think such an egregious tragedy would make Australia rethink its immigration policies, its response to antisemitism, or its strategy of accommodating the pro-Hamas mob. Instead, Albanese has announced that Australia, which has among the toughest gun laws in the world, is going to impose even tougher restrictions on legal gun ownership.

Albanese expressed horror at the attack. But what did he think the mob meant by “globalize the intifada”?
As Administrator @Musings , mentioned you cannot handle us condemning this terrorist attack, you cannot accept that a Muslim stepped in to save innocent lives. And then you mention, had he known the victims were Jews, would that have made any difference? LOL, I mean, how "stupid" can a person get? Ahmed El Ahmed was trying to save human lives, whether they were Jews or not.
 
I think it was targeted assassination to get a "rabbi" who was probably involved in genocidal murder of babies and innocent civilians.

Someone took him out?
So a terrorist has been eliminated in a terrorist attack.. that could be world's first!
 
Ahmed El Ahmed was trying to save human lives, whether they were Jews or not.
Not only that, people don't mention that he didn't have to do what he did: the shooters weren't facing him so he could have simply run away from the action rather than intervene.
 
Not only that, people don't mention that he didn't have to do what he did: the shooters weren't facing him so he could have simply run away from the action rather than intervene.
Wow, what a joke you are. Instead of appreciating what Ahmed El Ahmed did, you say he didn't have to do what he did. I mean how low can you stoop.

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Not only that, people don't mention that he didn't have to do what he did: the shooters weren't facing him so he could have simply run away from the action rather than intervene.
Ye but hes Muslim and thats what you cant handle. Come on solomon - try it - just once in your life. Muslim did good and its difficult for you to accept - go on try it and let it be accepted.
 
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As Administrator @Musings , mentioned you cannot handle us condemning this terrorist attack, you cannot accept that a Muslim stepped in to save innocent lives. And then you mention, had he known the victims were Jews, would that have made any difference? LOL, I mean, how "stupid" can a person get? Ahmed El Ahmed was trying to save human lives, whether they were Jews or not.
It’s because he’s a bigot. If he was in that man’s shoes and the victims were non-Jews he would gladly let them die. This is what he means.
 
This thread should be merged with Israeli genocide in Gaza mega thread as it seems connected with the larger fallout. The intent of all three parties involved... culprits, targets and selfless bystander doing the absolute highest of faith in stopping with his hand.

None doing for themselves but for larger purposes beyond their person.
But it is and should be seen in its proper context and that is the thread I mentioned. Because everyone will run with their narratives and zionist will milk this peel to the nth!

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Pakistani man living in Australia describes ‘nightmare’ of being labelled as Bondi attacker​

Naveed Akram, a 30-year-old from New South Wales, was misidentified online as alleged attacker of the same name as misinformation spreads


Josh Taylor in Melbourne and Hannah Ellis-Petersen in Delhi
Mon 15 Dec 2025 15.10 GMT
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A Pakistani man living in Australia has spoken of his “deep trauma” and said his life had become a “nightmare” after his photo was widely circulated on social media falsely labelling him as one of the shooters in the Bondi beach terror attack.

Naveed Akram, 30, a who runs his own business in New South Wales, found himself at the centre of a storm of misinformation that began to spread following the deadly shooting on Sydney’s Bondi beach that left 16 people dead.


Police on Monday identified the two alleged shooters as father and son Sajid Akram, 50, and Naveed Akram, 24.


A screen grab from a video showing two gunmen firing shots from a pedestrian bridge at Bondi Beach.
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As information spread online that one of the shooters was a Pakistani man who shared the same name, Akram’s photos began to be shared widely on platforms such as X and Facebook, labelling him as a culprit, without any verification.

Incorrect information, giving Akram’s education background as that of the shooter’s, was also published on mainstream media websites such as the Jerusalem Post and World Is One news.

Akram described his “shock and horror” when he saw that his photo was being shared by accounts with hundreds of thousands of followers and was trending on X.

“It was extremely disturbing for me,” said Akram. “As soon as I saw that my photo was being shared as the shooter, I came home instantly as I knew it was very dangerous. I was so traumatised and I knew I needed to try and get the message out that this wasn’t me.”

Many of the accounts that were sharing his image falsely were from India, as right-wing influencers seized on the alleged origin of the shooter as proof of Pakistan’s terror connections, without fact-checking whether it was the correct man they were vilifying.

The alleged attacker Naveed Akram is an Australian citizen. His father migrated to Australia in the late 1990s and is not an Australian citizen, but the Australian authorities revealed his nationality.

None of the Facebook or X posts that wrongly showed Akram’s image were given warning labels or community notes by the platform’s factcheckers to flag it as misinformation.

“This shooting was such a terrible, terrible tragedy, I really have no words,” said Akram. “So it’s really shocked and disturbed me that people would put my life in danger with these fake posts.”

Akram said he had gone to the police to report the misinformation but they had just told him to disable all his social media accounts. He said he was also unable to reach X to get their assistance. Instead he resorted to making his own video which he posted to Facebook and Twitter, in a bid to clarify that he had been wrongly identified and called for the posts with his photograph to be reported and taken down.

He called on the social media platform to take responsibility for giving a platform to misinformation. “Lots of these fake posts are still up on social media. I’m still scared to go outside even to do the shopping,” he said. “My life could still be at risk because of this. My only priority right now is clear my name and protect me and my wife.”

Akram was not alone in being caught up in false and malicious reports that spread across social media after the shooting. One X post with more than 8m views incorrectly claimed the shooter was an IDF soldier, while another claimed the shooter was a Lebanese man of Palestinian descent.

Meanwhile, the man who tackled one of the shooters and took his gun from him has been confirmed as 43-year-old father-of-two, Ahmed al-Ahmed. But on X users falsely claimed the hero was actually a 47-year-old IT worker, with a British name.

The posts linked to a website called “thedailyaus.world”, which was registered on Sunday in Iceland to a registration company, according to WHOIS records, so it is unclear who operates the site.


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This misinformation was repeated by X’s AI chatbot, Grok, which responded to users falsely claiming the wrong man “heroically tackled and disarmed a gunman during a terrorist attack at Bondi Beach, getting shot twice but preventing more deaths”.

Timothy Graham, an associate professor at Queensland University of Technology, said the fact the Grok post had not had a community note applied to it in the 10 hours after it was posted showed how X’s fact-checking system failed on deeply-divided content during such an event.

On some posts identifying al-Ahmed, users submitted community notes claiming another man was the perpetrator and linking to the site in Iceland, but those notes were not published on any posts seen by Guardian Australia.

Some accounts did correctly name al-Ahmed, but they incorrectly claimed he was a Maronite Christian, when he is Syrian Muslim.

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There were also false claims that Muslims had set off fireworks in Bankstown in western Sydney in celebration of the attack. The fireworks were in nearby Padstow and were part of a Christmas carols event.

Contributing to the pile-on, one user labelled the Bonnyrigg home address of the alleged shooter as a mosque on Google Maps. The label has since been removed.

Google and X were approached for comment.

Additional reporting by Nino Bucci.
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