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muhammed45 said:
the main focus of this exercise was on IRGC-N. According to reporter, there were errors in a few ones of missile systems that were recognized and dealt with accordingly. Goodness of military exercises is recognition of these weaknesses and also resolving them.
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What type of errors?

jauk said:
Can't navel blockade Iran. It takes time and assets. Far before then Iran would've understood and reacted. Saddam's stupidity was to allow build-up prior to Desert Storm.
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To be fair Saddam’s military had zero chance against the world superpower + supporting coalition. The dumbest idea after 8 years of brutal war was to *check notes* launch another war.

Saddam didn’t think the world would react the way it did. War might not have happened if Kuwait didn’t insist on its Iran/Iraq war loans to be repaid which pissed Saddam off as betrayal.

Lastly, Iran has a much much bigger coastline than Iraq. All US had to do was block the narrow mouth of the Persian Gulf against Iraq since it had no way of leaving.

Iran has multiple access routes beyond the strait of Hormuz.
 
Immortals said:
What type of errors?



To be fair Saddam’s military had zero chance against the world superpower + supporting coalition. The dumbest idea after 8 years of brutal war was to *check notes* launch another war.

Saddam didn’t think the world would react the way it did. War might not have happened if Kuwait didn’t insist on its Iran/Iraq war loans to be repaid which pissed Saddam off as betrayal.

Lastly, Iran has a much much bigger coastline than Iraq. All US had to do was block the narrow mouth of the Persian Gulf against Iraq since it had no way of leaving.

Iran has multiple access routes beyond the strait of Hormuz.
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I agree with that as well. All things being equal Iraq might’ve put up a better fight if they had the intellectual foundation Iran has. One man show. Doomed from the start.
 
Anyone intrigued by the question of a lobbing AshBM striking right at the VLS cells of a destroyer/cruiser?

I also wonder if our ships gets struck right where the VLS are, if this is going to trigger a big chain reaction

This is also where the automatic guns cons are, struck right at the guns, all the ammo is going to explode

This makes a difference between a tanker with food/other goods being struck and a cruiser carrying a massive amount of VLS cells with big cruise missiles inside them
 
The Iranian Navy received two more missile catamarans of the "Shahid Soleimani" type, and the fleet was replenished with the ships "Shahid Hassan Bagheri" and "Shahid Sayad Shirazi". Ships of the "Shahid Soleimani" type are multi-purpose missile catamarans with a unique design, low radar signature and made of aluminum. The Shahid Soleimani class missile catamarans have a length of 67 meters and a displacement of approximately 600 tons, they can be classified as corvettes. The design of the ships is based on the Chinese Type 22 coast guard catamaran boat. For their displacement, the ships have serious weapons, which may be different on some ships. Iranian ships are equipped with Nawab air defense systems and Sayyad cruise missiles with a flight range of up to 700 kilometers. Artillery weapons, a 30mm automatic cannon, presumably a 2A42, and a 20mm remote controlled Gatling gun. The ships are equipped with electronic warfare systems. The ship can accommodate a Bell-412 anti-submarine helicopter, and can use UAVs and unmanned boats. The ship is equipped with 4 Iranian engines and has a cruising range of up to 5,000 miles, and a ship speed of up to 32 knots or 59 km/h.

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tsunset said:
I also wonder if our ships gets struck right where the VLS are, if this is going to trigger a big chain reaction
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Only Israel has an AshBM based on their LORA missile.

But yes it would absolutely trigger a chain reaction. This goes back to WW2, when bombers aimed to hit the ammo compartments of battleships to split them in half.

tsunset said:
This is also where the automatic guns cons are, struck right at the guns, all the ammo is going to explode
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Yes, this is pretty much true of any warship. Most have an armoured compartment where they keep their fuel or ammo. That might work against weaker CMs, but a Mach 4-6 BM or supersonic CM it’s gonna be much harder.

I would say only an aircraft carrier can feel “safe” enough that it’s fuel and ammo component can withstand all but a heavy saturation attack as they have many levels and layers and compartments any warhead has to get to until it reaches the chain reaction areas.


tsunset said:
This makes a difference between a tanker with food/other goods being struck and a cruiser carrying a massive amount of VLS cells with big cruise missiles inside them
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Cruisers suffer from same issue with some protection. That is why Russian cruisers use a gas ejection to eject the missile over the water and then “ignition”. That way if Missile fails or malfunctions it will fall into water rather than back on the deck of the ship.

Some of the worst submarine accidents is when the torpedo/missile detonated inside the compartment on accident during firing/training.
 
Immortals said:
Only Israel has an AshBM based on their LORA missile.

But yes it would absolutely trigger a chain reaction. This goes back to WW2, when bombers aimed to hit the ammo compartments of battleships to split them in half.



Yes, this is pretty much true of any warship. Most have an armoured compartment where they keep their fuel or ammo. That might work against weaker CMs, but a Mach 4-6 BM or supersonic CM it’s gonna be much harder.

I would say only an aircraft carrier can feel “safe” enough that it’s fuel and ammo component can withstand all but a heavy saturation attack as they have many levels and layers and compartments any warhead has to get to until it reaches the chain reaction areas.




Cruisers suffer from same issue with some protection. That is why Russian cruisers use a gas ejection to eject the missile over the water and then “ignition”. That way if Missile fails or malfunctions it will fall into water rather than back on the deck of the ship.

Some of the worst submarine accidents is when the torpedo/missile detonated inside the compartment on accident during firing/training.
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I don't think there is the need for an AshBM to strike at VLS cells, air to ground bombs/missiles can do it well, but Iran for now has to rely on AshBM for that

Ticonderoga cruisers have an absurd amount of VLS cells and absurd firepower, if anything touches the cells, it's going to make the ship break in half

This is something a sea skimming cruise missile would struggle to do

But the absurd amount of VLS cells US ships have could be used against themselves, i can't imagine the chain reaction that would happen would just maul the ship in half and leave hundreds of its crew dead right away
 
tsunset said:
I don't think there is the need for an AshBM to strike at VLS cells, air to ground bombs/missiles can do it well, but Iran for now has to rely on AshBM for that

Ticonderoga cruisers have an absurd amount of VLS cells and absurd firepower, if anything touches the cells, it's going to make the ship break in half

This is something a sea skimming cruise missile would struggle to do

But the absurd amount of VLS cells US ships have could be used against themselves, i can't imagine the chain reaction that would happen would just maul the ship in half and leave hundreds of its crew dead right away
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Sea skimming is a technique to stay under the azimuth of the ship radar and use curvature of the earth to the attackers advantage.

Many CMs skim but then their terminal phase do a “pop” up maneuver to avoid CWIS or a randomize attack pattern to avoid radar locking.

Many of Iran’s CMs actually aim for a waterline puncture to immobilize the ship. But some do an “air burst” method where it tries to explode above the mast/deck.

Either way Iran’s core ASHCM are severely lacking in lethality. They largely the same design since the 2000’s or since 2006 when HZ used one against Israeli frigate.

Outside of saturation attack or navy captain incompetence I don’t see how they will be able severely damage a US cruiser using Noor or Ghadir missiles. At the end of the day, they are still upgraded C-802s
 
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Iran’s Navy Receives New Weapons​

TEHRAN (Tasnim) – The Iranian Navy took delivery of dozens of new watercraft and weapons on Wednesday.​

In a ceremony in the southern port city of Bandar Abbas, attended by Army Commander Major General Abdolrahim Mousavi, a total of 42 items joined the Navy’s fleet.
A number of corvettes, naval boats, minesweeping helicopters and hovercrafts that have been overhauled by the local experts also rejoined the naval fleet.
The Navy also furnished its Sahand destroyer and a number of its naval drones with advanced systems, including radars, combat weapons, and air defense missiles

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Iran’s Navy Receives New Weapons - Politics news - Tasnim News Agency

TEHRAN (Tasnim) – The Iranian Navy took delivery of dozens of new watercraft and weapons on Wednesday.
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Some frigate is now armed with Sayyad air defense and others with Oerlikon manned/unmanned machine guns
 

Update of Iranian Moudge-class frigates​

Update of Iranian Moudge-class frigates

This class of Iranian warships are equipped with the Arman defense system and have 4 medium-range missiles and 4 short-range missiles. Arman missile defense: 4 medium-range missiles: Range : 120 km 4 short-range missiles: These are placed in a missile box on the warship Range : unknown
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