German economy is collapsing

[MH.Yang]

Politicians who play with populism are fools, especially those who play with populism in economic issues.

 

[Viet]

Germany can decouple from Russia's cheap fossil fuel energy by following the full green energy path controlled by China.

There is no alternative energy/technology option which is superior to China on this planet.

The German companies have already made their decision by integrating 80-90% of their research/development and manufacturing base into China's ecosystem.

Germany should focus more on China?
Are you serious?
It is like jumping faster from the bridge. Not going to work today. Look at the trade balance. It’s not growing, it’s collapsing. It worked when China was a developing economy. Now China competes with the Germans on cars, machines, chemicals and other industrial goods. Worse, Chinese consumers buy less and less from Germany.
Ccp gets rich, while Germany gets poorer
You can compare with Vietnam today. We are 20 years behind China.
Makes more sense to move to Vietnam instead.
Then Germany will have 20 more years prosperity.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Germany should focus more on China?
Are you serious?
It is like jumping faster from the bridge. Not going to work today. Look at the trade balance. It’s not growing, it’s collapsing. It worked when China was a developing economy. Now China competes with the Germans on cars, machines, chemicals and other industrial goods. Worse, Chinese consumers buy less and less from Germany.
Ccp gets rich, while Germany gets poorer
You can compare with Vietnam today. We are 20 years behind China.
Makes more sense to move to Vietnam instead.
Then Germany will have 20 more years prosperity.

You don't have the supply chain and technology that they desperately need.

They are going to follow China regardless you like or not.

 

[MH.Yang]

Germany should focus more on China?
Are you serious?
It is like jumping faster from the bridge. Not going to work today. Look at the trade balance. It’s not growing, it’s collapsing. It worked when China was a developing economy. Now China competes with the Germans on cars, machines, chemicals and other industrial goods. Worse, Chinese consumers buy less and less from Germany.
Ccp gets rich, while Germany gets poorer
You can compare with Vietnam today. We are 20 years behind China.
Makes more sense to move to Vietnam instead.
Then Germany will have 20 more years prosperity.

Firstly, Europe should choose engineers or technicians as national leaders. If not, at least entrepreneurs who understand economics should be chosen, even real estate developers who have gone bankrupt multiple times. They are more suitable for making logical and correct judgments than lawyers, doctors, and pipe dancing prostitutes.

If you can't do that. Then at least your business CEO won't go to hell with you, they're not that stupid.

 

[Viet]

The development of a team is related to multiple factors, but the strategic vision of the leadership plays a decisive role.
The current German politicians are short-sighted and completely lack foresight. However, German entrepreneurs are clearly more perceptive than these politicians.

BTW.

Vietnamese politicians are almost on the same level as German politicians.
China is currently undertaking a massive project. The project's main target is not Vietnam, but once it becomes operational, the entire Vietnamese economy will suffer a fatal blow.
Yet, Vietnamese politicians have not taken any action in response and are still fantasizing about a bright future. When that time comes, will anyone complain that China ruining the Vietnamese economy?

What fatal blow? I am curious. Never good to do extremes. Will create a response otherwise. China is under siege by the West, what’s the point to open a new front?

 

[Michael]

What fatal blow? I am curious. Never good to do extremes. Think of yin, yang. China is under siege by the West, what’s the point to open a new front?

1. You can find out the specific details of the event yourself. However, you may not arrive at the same conclusion.
2. We never advocate "extremism." China has a culture of moderation, a culture of balance.
3. Who is actually besieging whom?
4. Vietnam is not worth China targeting specifically. What you need to do is understand its intentions and make corresponding adjustments. Otherwise, you will suffer the consequences.

 

[Viet]

1. You can find out the specific details of the event yourself. However, you may not arrive at the same conclusion.
2. We never advocate "extremism." China has a culture of moderation, a culture of balance.
3. Who is actually besieging whom?
4. Vietnam is not worth China targeting specifically. What you need to do is understand its intentions and make corresponding adjustments. Otherwise, you will suffer the consequences.

You probably mean the Ccp 5-year plan? And other things? Look, I am from Viet Nam, we know you Chinese in and out. China has a history of doing extremes, think of culture revolution, the jump forward under Mao.
Confrontation with Japan, is it not the latest in the siege of China? You are naive.

 

[Michael]

You probably mean the Ccp 5-year plan? And other things? Look, I am from Viet Nam, we know you Chinese in and out. China has a history of doing extremes, think of culture revolution, the jump forward under Mao.

There's no need to argue here.
At this moment, you still haven't realized the seriousness of the problem, and you don't even know what's happening. Your Vietnamese government hasn't reacted at all.
This is the difference in strategic awareness.
We can end this discussion now.

 

[Viet]

There's no need to argue here.
At this moment, you still haven't realized the seriousness of the problem, and you don't even know what's happening. Your Vietnamese government hasn't reacted at all.
This is the difference in strategic awareness.
We can end this discussion now.

Yes ok Vietnam is not a topic I just comment on Germany. Car exports to China is Germany’s most important item but compared to last year it shrinks by -35%. Calling it a crash is understatement. But ok, some people argue the Germans should increase the bet.

 

[ety]

Manufacturing wise, China has not only defeated Germany, but also defeated the US and Japan from the western camp.

Germany should learn how to adapt the new world, and the good ole days are not coming back according to their own chancellor.

Rather that's the results of a society becoming too arrogant and complacent, esp Germans with their industry, that's the feeling I get when talked to some German nationals. They should spend less time in bars and cut down their holidays, work as the rest world to deserve such high standard of living.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Rather that's the results of a society becoming too arrogant and complacent, esp Germans with their industry, that's the feeling I get when talked to some German nationals. They should spend less time in bars and cut down their holidays, work as the rest world to deserve such high standard of living.

Yep, high wage + more vacation is not sustainable for them anymore.

 

[ety]

I am from Viet Nam, we know you Chinese in and out. China has a history of doing extremes, think of culture revolution, the jump forward under Mao.

That your understanding of Chinese cultures and philosophies is still superficial and minimal despite being from a neighboring country. Cultural revolution was Mao's idea to reshape Chinese society and culture when he believed it was necessary for this modern age, he maybe wrong, it doesn't happen once in 100 years or even 1000 years. Thousands years of Chinese culture and civilization are basically founded on the principle of moderations. The Germans are the people that love to carry things to extremities, Chinese are not like them.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Yes ok Vietnam is not a topic I just comment on Germany. Car exports to China is Germany’s most important item but compared to last year it shrinks by -35%. Calling it a crash is understatement. But ok, some people argue the Germans should increase the bet.

More investment from Japan on China's semiconductor industry.

Japan's Resonac Eyes China Investment Amid Chip Industry Boom

Resonac Holdings in Japan is considering further investment in China since the country is speeding up to develop an independent supply chain of semiconductor.

www.asiabusinessoutlook.com

VW keeps pouring more investment into China.

Volkswagen's $3.5B gamble: Can it win back share in the competitive Chinese market

Volkswagen is making a big move in China by investing $3.5 billion in a research and development center in the low-key central China city of Hefei, west of Shanghai

abcnews.go.com

 

[Michael]

Car exports to China is Germany’s most important item but compared to last year it shrinks by -35%. Calling it a crash is understatement. But ok, some people argue the Germans should increase the bet.

What will happen to German industry? What will happen to German automobiles? We are not sure.

Currently, Germany's three major automotive giants—Mercedes-Benz, BMW, and Volkswagen—are all striving to save themselves. One important strategy is to localize their operations in China. German Mercedes-Benz is becoming Chinese Mercedes-Benz. ------ Of course, this expression wouldn't be used in formal settings.

This is a positive and commercially logical decision made by German automotive companies based on reality. The decision itself is reasonable. The problem is, German politicians might not allow them to do this.

MAEXTRO S800, a high-end new energy vehicle brand from China that aims to compete with Rolls-Royce, has seen its 10,000th vehicle roll off the production line.

 

[fitpOsitive]

One thing I wanted add here.
I love Germany and respect this country who gave me a chance when my own country rejected me.
It will be Germany , not USA or Israel who will pay demages in Gaza.
It will be Germany, not Russia who will pay demages in Ukraine and Russia.

Dear Germany you still have time just don't support Israel and Ukraine. Shake hands with Russia.