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Allow me two points:

1.Wasn't it a "Zionist regime" before 2010 and before 2024? When Turkey had excellent relations with Israel,wasn't it a "Zionist regime" then?
2.You said that currently Netanyahu is trying to instrumentalize Greece and Cyprus. Hasn't Turkey done the same with Syria and Libya? Weren't you moving pro-Turkish rebel forces from Syria to Libya and from Libya to Syria and both partly to Azerbaijan?
Eehhh I don’t think it’s the same turkey trying to help(again whatever one may think of the Syria government good or bad)a country rebuild itself and consolidate power in Syria versus basically hey guys we have only one common enemy/frenemy if they attack(defend against an Israeli attack) we will come to each others aid(only israel).
 
Pakistan is a badly managed p*ss poor country that has gone to the IMF up to 28 times now. They cannot afford to operate a fleet of 350 jets consisting of dual engine fighters ( lets not get into modern airframe can do more, you still need physical presence given the size of the IAF ), some of the fleet will have to consist of single engine fighters. Procurement costs are only a part of the equation, life cycle costs are more important given how much you spend on that relative to the initial procurement cost.

The economic argument you made is precisely why Pakistan won’t be in position to produce a single-engined 5th gen fighter.
 
📍NEW — Israeli politician, former Foreign and Defense Minister Lieberman:

▪️"Among all the countries in the world right now, the only ones pushing to come here as a military force are the Turks."

▪️"This is a settlement process. If they come, no one can remove them from either Syria or Gaza. This would also seriously restrict our operational capabilities within Gaza."

▪️"They are not coming to disarm; they are coming to protect and provide shelter for Hamas."

▪️"When considered together—the potential delivery of F-35 aircraft, the serious Turkish military presence in Syria, and the arrival of Turkish forces in Gaza—this represents a dramatic shift in the balance of power in the region."

▪️"These are the points that are seriously troubling me right now."

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📍NEW/IMPORTANT — Israeli political source:

▪️"Greeks are uncomfortable with the special status Turks have in Washington."

▪️"Greeks see us as a partner who can convey anti-Turkey messages to the US."

▪️"In the Mitsotakis-Netanyahu meeting, Turkey will come up due to its increasingly developing and disturbing influence."

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It's not even a rumor here. And I doubt something like that would happen,the majority of opposition parties would tear the government apart and bring it down
 
It's not even a rumor here. And I doubt something like that would happen,the majority of opposition parties would tear the government apart and bring it down
Not even a rumour in Greece? Your PM is literally talking about this project.
 
Not even a rumour in Greece? Your PM is literally talking about this project.
I haven't heard anything about it on the news yet,I might have missed it,but I saw nothing on most defence sites.

I checked 4-5 sites,the only one who mentioned it was defence-point.gr whose link was from some kind of a blog.

"Although Israel officially denied a Greek report that spoke of specific plans for the establishment of such a force, sources in Tel Aviv confirmed to Yedioth Ahronoth that the political leadership had instructed the military to begin operational planning for this scenario, without proceeding with actual implementation. The clear directive indicates that the military is currently obliged to remain only in the initial planning phase and await further political instructions before taking any further steps."

Meanwhile,I see @Ali_Baba rushing to press the like button on @Eşbah like going "I agree my Turkish brother,this greek guy is a kaffir,he's probably lying,they're all liars" 😵‍💫
 
I haven't heard anything about it on the news yet,I might have missed it,but I saw nothing on most defence sites.

I checked 4-5 sites,the only one who mentioned it was defence-point.gr whose link was from some kind of a blog.

"Although Israel officially denied a Greek report that spoke of specific plans for the establishment of such a force, sources in Tel Aviv confirmed to Yedioth Ahronoth that the political leadership had instructed the military to begin operational planning for this scenario, without proceeding with actual implementation. The clear directive indicates that the military is currently obliged to remain only in the initial planning phase and await further political instructions before taking any further steps."

Meanwhile,I see @Ali_Baba rushing to press the like button on @Eşbah like going "I agree my Turkish brother,this greek guy is a kaffir,he's probably lying,they're all liars" 😵‍💫
He is in Israel right now. What do you think are they talking about? The weather?
 
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It's crazy how SCARED they are.
 
Turkey really should start arming Egypt, Give the Israelis 2 fronts to worry about. And in the meantime consolidate Syria.
Arming Egypt is waste of time. Muslim world need three basic foundations. Defense ,education and independent financial system.
 
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Arming Egypt is waste of time. Muslim world three basic foundations. Defense ,education and independent financial system.

Nobody has an independent financial system. lol, arguably not even the Chinese as of yet.

Arming Egypt is not a waste at all, a buildup in Egypt requires Israelis to dedicate resources on that front, resources that cannot be used against Turkey in Cyprus. Egypt has been cucked for so long, being denied access to technology by the west and with the Soviet collapse, a Russia that frankly just could not provide Egypt with anything that kept pace with what Israel had. To this day, not a single export of AESA radared aircraft to Egypt from Russia, infact Russia itself only has the Su-57 recently which has AESA, they never put one on their Su-35. Russia also has relations with Israel where it will never transfer anything critical to Egypt that would endanger Israel, Turkey has no such limitations. It can sell uncucked weapons and platforms.

Turkey has the power to be a disrupter here, with NATO grade equipment that is comparable to Israeli equipment. Egypt is looking for Ballistic missile that can range all of Israel and can be fired from deep inside Egypt. Turkey has this. Egypt needs Electronic Warfare equipment, Air Defense, a wide assortment of munitions and cruise missiles. Tanks, armored vehicles, drones, surveillance. BVR missiles that can range the Entirety of Israel.

The more Israel has to worry about Egypt, the better it is for Turkey, as a second front. Of course none of this is possible without Egypt also helping Turkey, namely adopting the Turkish line on Libya, Syria and Sudan. It would have to be a mutually beneficial relationship.
 
Nobody has an independent financial system. lol

Arming Egypt is not a waste at all, a buildup in Egypt requires Israelis to dedicate resources on that front, resources that cannot be used against Turkey in Cyprus. Egypt has been cucked for so long, being denied access to technology by the west and with the Soviet collapse, a Russia that frankly just could not provide Egypt with anything that kept pace with what Israel had. To this day, not a single export of AESA radared aircraft to Egypt from Russia, infact Russia itself only has the Su-57 recently which has AESA, they never put one on their Su-35. Russia also has relations with Israel where it will never transfer anything critical to Egypt that would endanger Israel, Turkey has no such limitations. It can sell uncucked weapons and platforms.

Turkey has the power to be a disrupter here, with NATO grade equipment that is comparable to Israeli equipment. Egypt is looking for Ballistic missile that can range all of Israel and can be fired from deep inside Egypt. Turkey has this. Egypt needs Electronic Warfare equipment, Air Defense, a wide assortment of munitions and cruise missiles. Tanks, armored vehicles, drones, surveillance. BVR missiles that can range the Entirety of Israel.
I don t want indulge some chest thumping competition. Lately US-IMF or these foreign financial consortium does' t allow Egypt to buy S35. Also didn't you learn, when imported S400 from Russia, US stopped F35 delivery ....






Su-35: What Cairo Isn’t Saying​

Behind Egypt’s rejection of the Russian fighter jet lies a decision driven by pressure and not technical shortcomings​

Akram Kharief MENADEFENSE
juil. 03, 2025






The quiet confirmation from Cairo that it would not finalize the purchase of Russian Su-35 fighters took few by surprise—not because of the decision itself, as many observers had already deduced the batch was bound for another North African client—but because of the reasons cited. Officially, Egypt invoked technical justifications: outdated radar, high fuel consumption, reliance on external guidance (AWACS), and high radar and thermal signatures. Yet these arguments fail to convince and poorly conceal the real motives behind a reversal shaped as much by Washington as by the complex realities of the Egyptian regime. In truth, the decision reveals much about Egypt’s limited military sovereignty.
 
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