China preparing for 'protracted' war, says think tank

The EV export boom is hampered by a lack of sea transport. Right now Chinese automakers are racing to build large numbers of this monster. Inevitably bolstering China's cross-straits invasion armada

China’s EV race drives surge in car-carrying ships​


Matt Oliver
Mon, March 4, 2024 at 1:37 PM CST·3 min read

Car Carrier Ship

At least 80 of the specialist vessels were ordered in 2023, worth a combined $8.1bn (£6.4bn) - Focke Strangmann/AFP
A record number of car carrier ships were ordered last year as Chinese carmakers accelerated deliveries of electric vehicles to the West.

At least 80 of the specialist vessels were ordered in 2023, according to shipbroking giant Clarkson, worth a combined $8.1bn (£6.4bn).
The purchases were driven by demand for shipping capacity from China, which overtook Japan to become
the world’s biggest exporter of cars last year.

In particular, Chinese EV manufacturers including BYD, Volvo-parent Geely and SAIC Motor, the owner of MG, have been seeking increased capacity to send more cars to Europe, even buying their own car carrier fleets in the process.

Aggressive expansion into Europe has been triggered by price wars among Chinese EV makers, as they look to sell cars abroad in search of larger profits.
According to Clarksons, there are now 769 car carriers in operation worldwide, with the largest able to carry nearly 8,000 vehicles.

Some 200 more are being built. But they typically take around four years to construct, leaving the likes of BYD, SAIC and Geely scrambling for capacity in the meantime.

BYD has ordered eight car carriers, with the first – known as the BYD Explorer – having recently entered service.
The vessel sailed from Shenzhen and arrived at a port in the Netherlands late last month loaded with 5,000 cars, destined for forecourts across Europe.

Another vessel owned by rival SAIC, called the SAIC Anji Sincerity, is the largest of its kind with a capacity of 7,600 cars.
 
US don't eveb recognise Taiwan as a country. Lolol

Already addressed this insignificant event earlier but keep repeating yourself like a broken record.

Yah we also had US war gaming near NK since like forever? Fat boy kim is also still laughing. What has it got to do with India btw? Still doesnt heal the 62' and Doklam kick in the nut though. Lolol

US can wargame anywhere in the world while Russia, China and NK cannot.

Looooserrrssss :ROFLMAO:

Idk about India, you keep bringing it into the thread thinking I'm Indian. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I hav3 been waiting for US boots in Ukriane till now. Where is my stronk US? Lolololol

US equipment and some US citizens are already in Ukraine but a person like you probably doesn't know that. Or isn't man enough to admit it. :ROFLMAO:

Keep yapping though, it's fun reading low tier posts like yours. 😂
 
LoL, Quality lengthy posts? like US never cut ties with ROC?

Yes, it never did....some examples are TSMC and the Military/Industrial help given to Taiwan.

How many times do I have to repeat the same above line for you to get it??

Do I need to find a cure for such blindness :ROFLMAO:
 
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As long as Taiwan is Republic of China, it's safe. people don't want to fight another civil war.


We know :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Despite the gorilla like chest thumping going on in different threads all the time. Those of us who know.....already know what you just wrote. 💪
 
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Yup it looks good on ad brochures and analyst propaganda just like Storm Shadow, Himars, Ex-Calibur, Archer, Stryker, Leopard II, and Caesar But what counts is the performance on the battle field

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I hav3 been waiting for US boots in Ukriane till now. Where is my stronk US? Lolololol

Got to wait long long time.

Just like the world never seen America boots on the ground in Vietnam North of the parallel

USA LOST BADLY TO CHINA WHEN CHINA HAD ONLY SINGLE SHOT BOLT ACTION RIFLES AGAINST DUGOUT DOUG AND HIS BATTLESHIPS WITH 16 INCH GUNS AND CARRIERS AND PLANES AND ARTILLERIES AND MA DEUCES WITH UNLIMITED AMMO.

AND THE USA FIASCO IN VIETNAM WHEN USA HAD 100 TIMES THE FIREPOWER OF CHINA AND VIETNAM


USA WERE WARNED NOT TO GO NORTH OF THE PARALLEL


USA dared not cross the parallel.

China told them if USA cross the parallel, China will put Chinese boots on the ground below the parallel in numbers that pale what China did when Dugout Doug approached the Yalu River.



USA remembered what happened when they encountered Chinese even though most of the Chinese had only single shot bolt action rifle against USA battleships and artillery and Ma Deuces and unlimited ammo.

USA blinked and blinked and tail between legs and did not have the cojones to cross.

AND NOW USA KNOW CHINA GOT LOTS OF BANG AND LONGER REACH THEN USA CAN DREAM OF.

AND ANY TIME USA WANT TO TURN PUSHING INTO REAL SHOVING, CHINA WILL BE MORE THAN READY AND WILLING TO TANGO
 
Now, if you look at post 391 where the guy post pics of all those small boats implying China have enough vessels to transport 1 million troops to Taiwan, you will see the stupidity of his argument and that these guys do believe that war against Taiwan WILL BE that easy.

Yah, the guy is oversimplifying what is actually a very complex operation. China is lucky that he is not in charge of the planning of the PLA
If China throws everything at Taiwan, of course Taiwan will fall, and be completely destroyed leaving Taiwan useless. But the issue is how much it will cost China and that will be more than the PDF Chinese realize. On Taiwan, it will have to be 'pacification by force'. Taiwan's technological treasure -- TSMC -- will be destroyed along with modern civilization infrastructure.
Maybe, but I don't think the strategic value of Taiwan is TSMC alone. Capture the Island, and the PLA could venture past the 1st Island chains.

As for the cost, never underestimate how far are politicians willing to go to save their career at the expense of national misery (short and long term). Not only for China but U.S politicians as well.
 
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You sure?

The Northern Expedition made ROC control all of China until the Civil War started.

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Yeah, civil war is the key here. Japan was not the main factor. It was people of China who supported Mao over KMT. KMT was heavily supplied by USA and even given control of Japanese arms and factories. But the people were simply unwilling to support KMT no matter what.
 
War with what, china has a demographic collapse going on it's fertility rate is just 1.1

USA & other countries with fertility rate of around 1.7

a replacement rate is 2.2
 
On top of it China has zero immigration infact a net out immigration which makes its demographics 3x times worse then usa
 
Most of them are uneducated and illiterate farmers, easily brainwashed by the CCP's propaganda policies. Of course, they also receive many benefits when supporting the CCP. For example, the CCP will execute landlords and take the assets of the rich to provide for them. :rolleyes: But during the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution, it was a different story.
CCP did not execute landlords arbitrarily. It only executed those who supported KMT. During civil war, CCP did not have any powers to distribute assets as it did not have direct control but was waging a guerilla war. Yet, people supported CCP not for money but because they saw KMT as USA proxy.
War with what, china has a demographic collapse going on it's fertility rate is just 1.1

USA & other countries with fertility rate of around 1.7

a replacement rate is 2.2
That still does not change the fact that China has a huge population. Just look at how Russia & USA became superpower with such low population or how UK conquered so much land with low population.
On top of it China has zero immigration infact a net out immigration which makes its demographics 3x times worse then usa
Net immigration does not make it any better for USA. People who are disloyal and merely migrating for economic benefits can be potential saboteurs and ruin things from the inside. So, net immigration could actually do more harm than good
 
War with what, china has a demographic collapse going on it's fertility rate is just 1.1

USA & other countries with fertility rate of around 1.7

a replacement rate is 2.2
How to find enough jobs for humans will be the major challenge in China and the world

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