Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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KingQamaR said:
What I don’t understand…why don’t they just shut off the oil for a few days that would get everyone’s attention’s to do something!!!!
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Because the West have enough buffer stock of oil not to feel pain before the Arabs?
 
Falcon29 said:
Stop playing ignorant so you can be taken seriously ...


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Until the Muslim countries and their allies collectively start applying military pressure the Israelis will continue their genocide.
 
FuturePAF said:
Yes they actually should.

Trying…if that’s trying then they’ve been trying in the wrong direction. The window between now and the election is limited. AIPAC is siding with Trump in all but word, what does the GCC have to lose to push for a dignified settlement. Failure to do so only empowers the Iranian regime and makes the populations of the region think their governments are impotent if not complicit.

The Palestinian need the support of the GCC now more than ever. With this issue now becoming a political albatross around Biden’s prospects for a second term, now is the time to for the GCC to act, for the good of the Palestinians and themselves.
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Do you really think you can say this to the GCC and they haven't thought about it and acted already..
 
The SC said:
That disaster has sadly been endured by the Palestinians for almost 75 years now..nothing new..Israel was bombing Gaza, Lebanon and Syria on a daily basis for a far as anyone can remember in recent years.. So fundamentally speaking..Hamas did not start this war..but a battle to get out of the status quo and have the world witness what the Palestinians are going through daily..but in a concentrated way this time..30 000 of them would have died in a 10 years period anyhow.. in a stealthy way.. but in this way they had the apartheid state exposed to the whole world's view..
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He's not going to understand.
 
The SC said:
Do you really think you can say this to the GCC and they haven't thought about it and acted already..
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Have the my thought about it, sure. But they haven’t seem to acted upon it with any real sense of urgency. Either the status quo was not too made for them or they felt other interests of their respective countries superseded this issue.

My point is that this is the time to spend political capital to get a solution that will pay dividends across the board. Ignoring this opportunity has many short, medium and long term dangers they shouldn’t Pooh Pooh, thinking it will be manageable.

Besides, as we are entering a new Cold War with china, this is the time to extract concessions from the west. The GCC has started to not have itself be taken for granted by diversifying its economies, not is also a time to extract more concessions so it does diversify as much in military domains as well.
 
FuturePAF said:
Have the my thought about it, sure. But they haven’t seem to acted upon it with any real sense of urgency. Either the status quo was not too made for them or they felt other interests of their respective countries superseded this issue.

My point is that this is the time to spend political capital to get a solution that will pay dividends across the board. Ignoring this opportunity has many short, medium and long term dangers they shouldn’t Pooh Pooh, thinking it will be manageable.

Besides, as we are entering a new Cold War with china, this is the time to extract concessions from the west. The GCC has started to not have itself be taken for granted by diversifying its economies, not is also a time to extract more concessions so it does diversify as much in military domains as well.
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To tell you the truth..the Arabs and Muslims don't weigh much in the US elections..

If you go to Arabic sites, news and magazines you'll see that the GCC is preoccupied daily with the Gaza conflict and acting as best as they can..but they are restricted in their actions due to the presence of the US in this conflict since day one!
 
Indos said:
Why I get emosional ? It is because 30.000 women babies kids are killed. Only Idiot with no hearth still justify Hamas action and support this fucking idiot organization
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You do not understand, and all you see is the 30,000. As @The SC mentioned, they would have died much slower over an extended period. You are insinuating that Israel will sit down and negotiate, and never in the past and never in the future will they sincerely.

To understand the mindset of the enemy. When Hamas released the prisoners, and Israel did as well, the Israelis went back to the West Bank and re-arrested everyone. How the **** you expect to deal with this sort of enemy?

The problem is you Indonesians haven't grown up to see an actual war that the Arabs and South Asians have gone through or live knowing any day we will be engaged in a regional conflict.

You think behaving like Gandhi in bedsheets and walking across the land will win freedom, which is another misconception; it was Germany starting WWII and the British weakening that allowed people to gain freedom; nothing is won without spilling blood.
 
The SC said:
To tell you the truth..the Arabs and Muslims don't weigh much in the US elections..

If you go to Arabic sites, news and magazines you'll see that the GCC is preoccupied daily with the Gaza conflict and acting as best as they can..but they are restricted in their actions due to the presence of the US in this conflict since day one!
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They are not “acting the best they can”.

The Middle East matters to the US in the new Cold War, as a market for US goods and services as well as influence.

For example, If the GCC has independent homemade equipment that allows them to contain Iran without the help of the west, it won’t also need western troops and bases to support it in case Iran threatens them.

There is a reason some kind of ceasefire was hoped for before Ramadan. With even less distraction during that month, the world (and especially Arab populations) will be watching Gaza even more closely, and the danger of things boiling over increase as Palestinians are pushed up to the Egyptian border and so many die of famine day after day.
 
FuturePAF said:
They are not “acting the best they can”.

The Middle East matters to the US in the new Cold War, as a market for US goods and services as well as influence.

For example, If the GCC has independent homemade equipment that allows them to contain Iran without the help of the west, it won’t also need western troops and bases to support it in case Iran threatens them.

There is a reason some kind of ceasefire was hoped for before Ramadan. With even less distraction during that month, the world (and especially Arab populations) will be watching Gaza even more closely, and the danger of things boiling over increase as Palestinians are pushed up to the Egyptian border.
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Well..seemingly Israel matters to the US more than the whole rest of the Middle East.. think Veto in the UN..
 
This is heartbreaking, this is a war on the people of Gaza not Hamas.

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