Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Dalit]

i just watched the video.He nlcant bear that rafale is eaten by j 10 c. man even indian army defence staff acceted the loss but he lied on the face

He is an Indian and Rafale fanboy.

 

[Dalit]

Just by plain facts …

Yes India survives and even pakistan survives if after the nuke exchange baloch and baltistani still want to be called pakistani

Sure thing bubba.

 

[falcon34]

yaa there is absolute truth in this…

may be pakistani will survive in gilgit baltistan and balochistan do u have any doubts on same?

India will likely target all 50000+ population centres and military bases…(LLM says pakistan has 127 towns with population of over 50k) and it seems many are just sub urban areas of large cities so 300 nukes will justify the usage

Why would India throw nukes at 20000 towns with no value of any kind

The level of delusion is insane, I can bet this is some demented indian incel fk in his fking 20s. Thinks India is invincible u sick fk I'll make sure you see a massacre in India just like your parents saw the one in Mumbai....
Only than this Scum of the earth indian Gen Z will understand what years, the most fked up thing is this is not the first time I've heard this, overseas Indian fks also blabber this shit.
Next round we gotta make sure the escalation point is something along the lines of Mumbai attack and when we respond to indian attacks RSS targets and their Elite class areas must be hit merciless especially that ambani cuck...
P..... Your lucky ur behind a screen.

 

[Hayabusa]

India strikes on first night achieved all objective set for avenging terrorist strike in Pahalgam… India was ready to stop after the first night and offered pakistani military the same.
Despite as per pakistanis the famous half a dozen Rafale kills.

Whatever happened next were just response given by India … on 8th May pakistan sent drones … India responded by same
Same happened on 9th May India responded…

On early 10th May India preemptively struck by ALCM(Brahmos, Scalp, SAAW) just a demo not a full fledged strike barely a dozen or so…

And then came pakistan DGMO call who request India for ceasefire and in same called requested India for stopping on route strikes on Kamra complex and Jacobabad …

…

Who knows next time Indian objectives might be for a longer or even a likely nuclear exchange

I can only laugh at you right now.

The cost to benefit ratio of these strikes
was remarkably poor. I am sure deep inside, a lot of Indians are mourning over the loss of the Rafales.

India's current administration country appears to be exerting an influence over the military that has compromised operational standards whether you like it or not, specifically the failure to conduct SEAD/ DEAD before launching attack. Not sure what else you were expecting.

Yet again, our position remains consistent throughout and we prioritize an immediate ceasefire. Also, contrary to what you said our counter response created a significant strategic dilemma that ultimately forced the Modi administration to deescalate. Deny all you like, but you ended up walking back with your tails between your legs.

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[falcon34]

Despite as per pakistanis the famous half a dozen Rafale kills.

"It's important how many planes were downed but why there being downed" Indian CDS.

 

[Tumba]

The level of delusion is insane, I can bet this is some demented indian incel fk in his fking 20s. Thinks India is invincible u sick fk I'll make sure you see a massacre in India just like your parents saw the one in Mumbai....
Only than this Scum of the earth indian Gen Z will understand what years, the most fked up thing is this is not the first time I've heard this, overseas Indian fks also blabber this shit.
Next round we gotta make sure the escalation point is something along the lines of Mumbai attack and when we respond to indian attacks RSS targets and their Elite class areas must be hit merciless especially that ambani cuck...
P..... Your lucky ur behind a screen.

Calm down whatever I have written is just facts.

war should ideally be avoided at all costs specially when there is chance for it to go nuclear but it seems all options are exhausted
So be it.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Calm down whatever I have written is just facts.

war should ideally be avoided at all costs specially when there is chance for it to go nuclear but it seems all options are exhausted
So be it.

do you understand what MAD means .

 

[Tumba]

I can only laugh at you right now.

The cost to benefit ratio of these strikes
was remarkably poor. I am sure deep inside, a lot of Indians are mourning over the loss of the Rafales.

India's current administration country appears to be exerting an influence over the military that has compromised operational standards whether you like it or not, specifically the failure to conduct SEAD/ DEAD before launching attack. Not sure what else you were expecting.

Yet again, our position remains consistent throughout and we prioritize an immediate ceasefire. Also, contrary to what you said our counter response created a significant strategic dilemma that ultimately forced the Modi administration to deescalate. Deny all you like, but you ended up walking back with your tails between your legs.

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Cost to benefit ratio … even if 7 Rafales were downed and no pilot life were lost I think India achieved all the objectives.

If India started with SEAD/DEAD that basically means starting a war and Indian objectives were just to hit terrorists safe havens in pakistan.

And the very next day after those strikes India told pakistan that we are good and will not strike or any more targets on cameras on 8th May morning but Pakistan wanted to continue despite claims of dropping down half a squadron or so of IAF

 

[hasssanali8998]

terrorists safe havens

just normal mosques retard

 

[hasssanali8998]

Cost to benefit ratio … even if 7 Rafales were downed and no pilot life were lost I think India achieved all the objectives.

If India started with SEAD/DEAD that basically means starting a war and Indian objectives were just to hit terrorists safe havens in pakistan.

And the very next day after those strikes India told pakistan that we are good and will not strike or any more targets on cameras on 8th May morning but Pakistan wanted to continue despite claims of dropping down half a squadron or so of IAF

 

[falcon34]

do you understand what MAD means .

Ur expecting too much from an incel hindutva gen Z fk. Who starts his day by calling Hindu women Honda shernis, fantasies Russian women in afternoon and than spends his entire fking day abusing behind screen.

 

[falcon34]

Cost to benefit ratio … even if 7 Rafales were downed and no pilot life were lost I think India achieved all the objectives.

F@ck thinks Rafales grow on trees, that he's magically gonna get al the lost aircraft back, 5 Rafales, mig29, mirage 2000 and SU30.
Good luck getting these aircraft back

 

[Vkdindian1]

Air Commodore Khalid had made a claim that Pakistan fired/dropped more ammunition in 3 days than the entire 1965 war. He claims to have got inputs from insiders. He seems to have spoken to higher ups at the Headquarters before doubling down on this claim.

I remember most members on this forum also being gung-ho about this aspect. Probably, this was due to assumption that so much of TNT is bound to have caused a lot of damage. Everyone was expecting that some solid proof is just around the corner. As the reality seems to dawned and no proof is forthcoming, very same people now want to distance themselves from that “more tonnage than 1965” claim.

Whatever the tonnage, there is no doubt that attacks against Indian ground targets didn’t go as envisaged. Other than “trust me bro” and “I am telling you” there is no proof. There is likely to be some damage but insignificant to say the least.

Pakistan did lay a solid punch initially and created a surprise for the Indian forces. They seemed to have pushed them back very well on 7th May. The advantage gained wasn’t used thereafter as no tangible and verifiable success against ground targets this side could be produced. Except “trust me bro” and “we will produce it when right time comes”. It ain’t coming folks.

Then comes the mudda of ceasefire. Why did Modi agree to one if he was on the front foot? Why did he agree if he was doing so well?

Corollary - Why did Munir agree if he was really hammering India so well? Why did Munir went for NCAC meeting without using better missiles than F1 and F2? After all, so many members are claiming that India used their best missile while Pakistan didn’t? What made them go for nuclear signalling straight from F1 and F2? What happened to intermediate escalation ladders?

The reason is that, no side had appetite for any escalation and a full fledged war. There were professionals on both sides who had their head level and knew what were the possibilities. They must have advised to stand down. BOTH sides.

India lost few fighters but salvaged a little by producing those satellite images. Pakistan got bigger pie of the narrative by shooting down few fighters.

Both sides were exposed with massive holes in their armour, which to my mind is more damning for India considering the size of the economy and the defence forces. 7th May was a s##t show by them. Poor planning, intelligence and execution.

Pakistan realised that potent AD and capable missiles are a must. Using Fatah class of weapons and then crying that we could have used Raad etc was pathetic. No one stopped anyone from using whatever was required to get the results. Why did you use PL-15 on day one? Because it was required to achieve the desired result.

Wasn’t CM400 used too? It was also used as it was deemed necessary. If Fatah was not producing the expected results then why not go few levels up. CM400 can be fired but no other missile better than Fatah? What a hollow and cry baby argument. This was a failure and not a virtue as being claimed by scores of members. This exposed that Pakistan didn’t have the required capability to carry out BDA in real time and make a pivot if required.

One more issue about satellite images. First images for damage at Nur Khan base were published by a Chinese service provider. The argument that India doesn’t allow anyone to take high res images is a hollow one. There are at least 5-6 Chinese agencies that provide sub-metric satellite images to any buyer. And India can’t do s##t to these companies. ISPR is bound to have procured all the images as required, but decided to stand down after analysing them and left it to the imagination of “trust me bro” brigade to fight their cause.

Overall, there was no clear loss or gain for anyone militarily.

As side benefits, Munir got his one extra star. Sidhu got his extension. Modi seems to be just rubbing his palms as of now.

 

[Hayabusa]

Cost to benefit ratio … even if 7 Rafales were downed and no pilot life were lost I think India achieved all the objectives.

If India started with SEAD/DEAD that basically means starting a war and Indian objectives were just to hit terrorists safe havens in pakistan.

And the very next day after those strikes India told pakistan that we are good and will not strike or any more targets on cameras on 8th May morning but Pakistan wanted to continue despite claims of dropping down half a squadron or so of IAF

Well if India loves to achieve its objectives of losing planes, surely we Pakistanis won't mind it! It works to our benefits, and also make you guys looking stupid in the end. Continue trying to bomb us.

 

[Falcon26]

massive strikes will invite massive response close to nuclear threshold...both of these countries will not touch that point. May 2025 has changed conventional thinking ....Pakistan is no more playing with bluff and empty statements..... and it will be more aggressive to ensure survival.

There were massive strikes on May 10 which yielded India appreciable propaganda materials and visuals.

India is routinely testing the limits to see how far it can go while ensuring the Pakistan army generals are within their “restraint and maturity” bubble.