Turkish Foreign Policy and Regional Geopolitics

[Foinikas]

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It's not working for me,I even went on X to check it :S

 

[hyperman]

lets set out some facts:

- Trump just publicly thanked Erdogan for helping to remove an anti-Israel regime from Syria (while standing next to Bibi), and he said Bibi agrees

- Until very recently, Turkey had full diplomatic and economic relations with Israel (it still recognises Israel as a sovereign nation)

- Turkey was a key conduit in the transfer of oil/gas from Azerbaijan to Israel, a key cog in sustaining Israel's war economy

- Turkey is an important member of NATO, the US-led security sphere which is essentially inseparable from Israel

there are some areas where the interests of Turkey and Israel diverge. as is the case for virtually all countries. but these fundamental facts remain. I encourage you to engage in facts rather than insults and rhetoric.

Yes, thats why Turkey shows up as a higher threat than Iran under Israel's own threat assessments right? lol

All this nonsense has been explained before, people want to deny the obvious reality of whats going on with regards to Israelis literally creating alliances against Turkey, losing their minds over Turkish troops in Gaza, or Turkish troops in Syria, but you have it figured out, its all b/c Turkey is secretly working with the zionists. Worry about your own country, its falling apart with Mossad riots and the Zionists haven't even started bombing yet. lol

 

[hyperman]

It's not working for me,I even went on X to check it :S

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[Foinikas]

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Darn it,I was trying to find it on Youtube but no luck. This one won't play either. Maybe something with my PC or browser. But if u find it on youtube with english subtitles,send a link.

 

[hyperman]

Darn it,I was trying to find it on Youtube but no luck. This one won't play either. Maybe something with my PC or browser. But if u find it on youtube with english subtitles,send a link.

not on youtube yet. People clipping the arabic recording of Suhail speaking from the leaked conversation and translating it themselves.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Yes, thats why Turkey shows up as a higher threat than Iran under Israel's own threat assessments right? lol

When we see Bibi saying the top three biggest threats to Israel are "Turkey, Turkey, and Turkey" and then using the full weight of the Zionist lobby to enforce an economic embargo against Turkey, then we can consider that Israel considers Turkey a threat. Until then, it's all media noise.

All this nonsense has been explained before, people want to deny the obvious reality of whats going on with regards to Israelis literally creating alliances against Turkey, losing their minds over Turkish troops in Gaza, or Turkish troops in Syria, but you have it figured out, its all b/c Turkey is secretly working with the zionists. Worry about your own country, its falling apart with Mossad riots and the Zionists haven't even started bombing yet. lol

Why don't you try engaging with the facts instead of deflecting and trying to shut down discussion?

Turks love to post in the Iranian section but the moment I dare express an opinion here it's "worry about Iran"?

 

[hyperman]

When we see Bibi saying the top three biggest threats to Israel are "Turkey, Turkey, and Turkey" and then using the full weight of the Zionist lobby to enforce an economic embargo against Turkey, then we can consider that Israel considers Turkey a threat. Until then, it's all media noise.


Why don't you try engaging with the facts instead of deflecting and trying to shut down discussion?

Turks love to post in the Iranian section but the moment I dare express an opinion here it's "worry about Iran"?

Because these "facts" have been engaged with on multiple occasions and at this point its a bore to rehash, especially with the obvious ground realities that are quite evident. This is at the level of thinking Turkey and Greece are allies b/c they are NATO, its just silly face value analysis that doesn't warrant a response.

I don't know which Turks are posting in the Iranian section, I don't go there usually. But You have found all this time to come into the Turkish section or post about Syria. Apparently Tehran is not burning hard enough from the Mossad Riots, that you have found spare time to come talk smack about Turkey. lol

 

[Persian Gulf]

Because these "facts" have been engaged with on multiple occasions and at this point its a bore to rehash, especially with the obvious ground realities that are quite evident. This is at the level of thinking Turkey and Greece are allies b/c they are NATO, its just silly face value analysis that doesn't warrant a response.

I don't know which Turks are posting in the Iranian section, I don't go there usually. But You have found all this time to come into the Turkish section or post about Syria. Apparently Tehran is not burning hard enough from the Mossad Riots, that you have found spare time to come talk smack about Turkey. lol

Yes, I am on break from my security patrol in Tehran to come educate you with some basic and apparently hard to stomach truths about Turkey's relationship with Israel.

Since I only care about facts and not your repeated attempts to shut down discussions and insult Iranians, let me repeat my facts and give you another opportunity to explain which of the below is not correct. I am open to changing my mind or considering a more nuanced interpretation of the below, but each is a basic fact and you would be more credible if you didn't try to deny it.

- Trump just publicly thanked Erdogan for helping to remove an anti-Israel regime from Syria (while standing next to Bibi), and he said Bibi agrees

- Until very recently, Turkey had full diplomatic and economic relations with Israel (it still recognises Israel as a sovereign nation)

- Turkey was a key conduit in the transfer of oil/gas from Azerbaijan to Israel, a key cog in sustaining Israel's war economy

- Turkey is an important member of NATO, the US-led security sphere which is essentially inseparable from Israel

 

[GoatsMilk]

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Assadists licking the arses of the zionists. Just like they all licked the arses of the british and french to obtain position, now they lick the arses of the Zionists seeing it as their only way back into vassalage. Shameless scumbags.

 

[hyperman]

- Trump just publicly thanked Erdogan for helping to remove an anti-Israel regime from Syria (while standing next to Bibi), and he said Bibi agrees

He also said Turkey achieved something not done in 1000 years, which just shows this guy just talks and knows nothing. You are just cherry picking.

There is ample evidence showing the contrary from various Israeli officials, so much so that Turkey was literally warned by Biden in 2016, that the Israelis do not want assad gone. The Israelis preferred a weak assad, not assad gone. Assad was a known commodity that they had a 60 year relationship with on their border.

קריסת אסד - בשורות רעות לביטחון ישראל | אלוף במיל' ישראל זיו

לאינטרס הביטחוני שלנו עדיף משטר יציב בסוריה מאשר הכאוס הצפוי של מלחמת האזרחים • הבריחה של ישראל מקואליציה אזורית משפיעה על יציבות האזור כולו • פרשנות

www.mako.co.il

Israeli intelligence official: Assad preferable to rebels

Senior Israeli official speaks to London-based Times, says Israel prefers weak Assad to terrorist takeover: 'Better the devil we know than demons we imagine'

www.ynetnews.com

Israel's Concerns Over Syrian Opposition Gains Despite Assad's Losses - Al-Estiklal Newspaper

Contrary to claims promoted by international and Arab media suggesting that "Israel" benefits from the Syrian opposition's actions against Assad’s regime, the Occupation state appears increasingly uneasy about recent Syrian Opposition victories.

www.alestiklal.net

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- Until very recently, Turkey had full diplomatic and economic relations with Israel (it still recognises Israel as a sovereign nation)

Turkey has diplomatic ties with Greece too, whats that mean? nothing. There are those that have greater ties with israel under the surface than many who have defacto ties established years ago under diffirent govts. This is nonsense when you look at Iraq, who has been a bigger friend to Israel with their airspace than any country with actual ties.

- Turkey was a key conduit in the transfer of oil/gas from Azerbaijan to Israel, a key cog in sustaining Israel's war economy

All exports to Israel are banned.

There is no gas being transported through Turkey to Israel. Turkey doesn't even have LNG regasification export terminals, and there is no pipeline to Israel.

With regards to the Oil pipeline, this is being transported via third parties who buy the oil and then transport it elsewhere. Israel is not reliant on this supply, as oil markets are elastic and unlike gas you can substitute via different sources. There is a glut of Russian oil on the market, and can be substituted. So in essence Turkey has no real control over that matter. Its like trying to blame Iran for Iranians carpets being exported to Israel via 3rd parties. #1 there is no way for Iran to stop it, and even if it did ban all exports of Iranian carpets, the Israeli buyer would buy carpets from other personate carpet sellers in Azerbaijan, Afghanistan or elsewhere where such carpets are made. I have explained this element to you a dozen times but don't usually bother, b/c in a few posts you will make his same argument, pretending like you haven't been engaged on this topic.

- Turkey is an important member of NATO, the US-led security sphere which is essentially inseparable from Israel

Does this even warrant a response? lol

OMG Turkey NATO. Its funny because on paper Iraq is part of "the resistance" yet it was "resistance" airspace being used to bomb Iran and Iraq whose territory is used for launching attacking by Israeli backed insurgent groups into Iran. Or that it is NATO Turkey they denied airspace to israel and the US. or that it was Turkish warnings to Iran about what was coming(something Iranian officials themselves mentioned like Pezkeshian) or that Turkish intelligence provided information on those Kurdish insurgents in Iraqi attempting to cross into Iran to launch operations. Not acknowledging these elements and instead lashing out at Turkey just shows bitter jealousy and spitefulness.

 

[Foinikas]

Assadists licking the arses of the zionists. Just like they all licked the arses of the british and french to obtain position, now they lick the arses of the Zionists seeing it as their only way back into vassalage. Shameless scumbags.

Aaah Mashallah,Mashallah!

 

[hyperman]

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Aaah Mashallah,Mashallah!

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[hyperman]

You can tell Foinikas is not an ideologically committed Anti Zionist b/c in the same thread he uses pictures from a past era different to attack Turkey, he defends Greece's cooperation with Israel. There is no conviction behind it, its just about scoring points.

 

[Foinikas]

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And after that,he wanted peace and friendship with Assad again.



And after that