Turkish Foreign Policy and Regional Geopolitics

[hyperman]

Ther will be a fight with Israel sooner or later, with Greece to only thing is they are weak as fak so they stay back. They are showing a lot off tooth, we can ignore them.

With zionistan is different, they are coddled because western world is backing and ther enemies are weak. Preventive strike they are doing with weak neighbours will end bad for them if they try it with Turkiye. So they are looking for stupid dump mule countries so they can save ther own ass.

For now 2.5 countries have joined the forces, i hope for them that ther are smart people among them.

They are fools, putting themselves into the crossfire. Now its no longer a disagreement and annoyance over EEZ, now they are actively conspiring against Turkey, building their joint battalion, and trying to encircle Turkey, no doubt they will try to break the defacto status on Cyprus. But they are miscalculating, Turkey will not shy away from that fight. They could have left the status quo as is, but that Baldy Dendias and Mitsotakis think that by worshipping at the Alter of Zionism, that they somehow get some blessing.

 

[hodor]

Israel is trying to have Greece and the Greek Cypriot administration fight its war on its behalf. If Israel were to harm the Turkish presence in Syria, any Israeli military presence or air-defense systems in Cyprus would become Turkey’s first targets

 

[hyperman]

I told you above that this joint force or "rapid reaction force" was just an idea by the Jews. Nothing serious.

Oh its being taken serious and very very seriously, rest assured there will be a response in due time, not today maybe not tomorrow, but Turks don't forget. Turkey will choose the time and place. You have gone from a minor irritant with a neighbor that someone can talk things out with, to someone trying to actively conspire with Turkey's enemies and corner Turkey as a pawn in service for the zionist cause.

 

[Foinikas]

Now its no longer a disagreement and annoyance over EEZ, now they are actively conspiring against Turkey

The Victim Card again. Let's check the timeline:

-Turkey threatens Greece with war
-Turkey threatens Cyprus with war
-Greece and Cyprus cooperate with Israel
-Turkey says Greece and Cyprus are conspiring against them

I could give you the timeline in more detail if you want

building their joint battalion,

You're either a sneaky provocateur ignoring what I said twice or you're incapable of understanding what I'm saying: There is no joint battalion,there is no joint army,no rapid force and nobody in Greece is willing to take such a political risk,let alone actually wanting to go fight Israel's wars.

and trying to encircle Turkey,

Are you kidding? You've got:

-Azerbaijan
-Syria
-Libya
-Albania
-FYROM
-Kosovo
-Bosnia

And you're playing the victim card saying "they're trying to encircle Turkey " ?

no doubt they will try to break the defacto status on Cyprus. But they are miscalculating, Turkey will not shy away from that fight. They could have left the status quo as is, but that Baldy Dendias and Mitsotakis think that by worshipping at the Alter of Zionism, that they somehow get some blessing.

First of all,that's your assumption,which you're turning into a false "fact" by the end of this paragraph. Second,what is the de facto status on Cyprus? The TRNCs existence or are you implying the Republic of Cyprus should not and cannot drill and exploit the natural resources on their side?

 

[Foinikas]

Israel is trying to have Greece and the Greek Cypriot administration fight its war on its behalf. If Israel were to harm the Turkish presence in Syria, any Israeli military presence or air-defense systems in Cyprus would become Turkey’s first targets

It's like you guys can't move on beyond a certain idea. You're stuck with the same bullshit propagated by your government.

I've been repeating again and again how wrong your perception of "everyone is a puppet" is,but you don't get it. I'll say once again,not that you'll understand and move on,but because others are reading the thread too:

Just because Greece and Cyprus have common interests with any country,in defending against any Turkish aggression,doesn't mean they are puppets. You said the same a few years ago about the French,you said the same about the Americans.

Get it in your heads: Just because a country cooperates with someone on defence,doesn't mean it's a puppet. You say the same nonsense about Egypt and UAE and Saudi Arabia and Iraq and Baath Syria and everyone everywhere who isn't playing ball with Turkey.

 

[Foinikas]

You have gone from a minor irritant with a neighbor that someone can talk things out with, to someone trying to actively conspire with Turkey's enemies and corner Turkey

TALK THINGS OUT? TALK THINGS OUT?

Talk what out? This?



Conspiring against Turkey? Which Turkey? THIS TURKEY?



This Turkey?




This Turkey?



And you're blaming us as if you were good friends and we turned against you and conspire against you?

Are you serious? You're blaming us for simply wanting to survive? For wanting to defend?

 

[snne]

but Turks don't forget.

We do forget. Everything. All the damn time.

 

[Oublious]

TALK THINGS OUT? TALK THINGS OUT?

Talk what out? This?

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Conspiring against Turkey? Which Turkey? THIS TURKEY?

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This Turkey?

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This Turkey?

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And you're blaming us as if you were good friends and we turned against you and conspire against you?

Are you serious? You're blaming us for simply wanting to survive? For wanting to defend?

Al dumb arguments and reason, sooner later you will go to war.

 

[Oublious]

Why? You can't reach them by land or sea without having your forces annihilated. They could launch a huge pre-emptive strike and take out your closest bases and ports to the east and south. They know where and what to hit. Bases,defence industry,infastracture.
Right now your Air Force is weak and your AA systems few.

Ther fighter can takeoff 1 time and second time they will not find a place to land. You people still not understand that fighter is not that makes everything, you go to war you go with navy, airforce and groundforces. If you think it is that simple to attack us you could try it with your Rafaels.

 

[Foinikas]

Ther fighter can takeoff 1 time and second time they will not find a place to land. You people still not understand that fighter is not that makes everything, you go to war you go with navy, airforce and groundforces. If you think it is that simple to attack us you could try it with your Rafaels.

Of course it's not just the fighter jets that win wars. But how will you march all the way to central Syria without having your convoys bombed to pieces and how will you land troops when both the Israeli Navy and Air Force won't let you come close. Trying to land forces on Israel or Gaza would be extremely costly: Even if you ignore part of the Israeli Air Force and even if you manage to defeat their Navy,the ships that will remain will have to go through probable coastal batteries and Apache waiting. Assuming that a lot of the UAVs and loitering munitions as well as part of the artillery will be busy with stopping the Turkish advance in Syria.

It's not an easy target. And it's not just because of their Air Force.

 

[Oublious]

Of course it's not just the fighter jets that win wars. But how will you march all the way to central Syria without having your convoys bombed to pieces and how will you land troops when both the Israeli Navy and Air Force won't let you come close. Trying to land forces on Israel or Gaza would be extremely costly: Even if you ignore part of the Israeli Air Force and even if you manage to defeat their Navy,the ships that will remain will have to go through probable coastal batteries and Apache waiting. Assuming that a lot of the UAVs and loitering munitions as well as part of the artillery will be busy with stopping the Turkish advance in Syria.

It's not an easy target. And it's not just because of their Air Force.

lol

We are going to use firecrackers....

 

[hyperman]

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This is good news, it should facilitate economic activity with businessmen from China and vice versa, and also allow for Uygurs to come to Turkey more easily for Asylum.

 

[MMM-E]

The Victim Card again. Let's check the timeline:

-Turkey threatens Greece with war
-Turkey threatens Cyprus with war

1 -- If Greece doesnt increase its territorial waters to 12nm from 6nm , then there is NO a War ... ( Greek offer : 5% to Turkiye and 75% to Greece in the Aegean )

2 -- If Greek Cypriots doesnt attack Turkish Cypriots and doesnt ignore their rights in the Island , then there is NO a War ... ( Greek offer : whole Island is Greek )

If you refrain from even doing these two simple things and adopt a hostile attitude towards Turkiye, then you will become a threat to Turkiye's national security

Then CASUS BELLI and We may come suddenly one night


so , dont play victim role as like between 1919 and 1922 or in 1974

 

[royalharris]

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This is good news, it should facilitate economic activity with businessmen from China and vice versa, and also allow for Uygurs to come to Turkey more easily for Asylum.

Uygurs go to Turkey?For what?

xinjiang is much more advanced and richer than Turkey.

 

[MMM-E]

It's not an easy target. And it's not just because of their Air Force.

There will be no more air bases and Fighter Jets in Israel in a long term war
Without Airforce Israel will be a lame Duck


According to Iranian MOD ( Persian Gulf ) and his Post
ISRAEL .... ( total of 1.226 missile interceptors at any one time )
-- 134 Arrow-2 and Arrow-3 missile interceptors
-- 48 THAAD missile interceptors
-- 96 PAC-2 missile interceptors
-- 148 David's Sling missile interceptors
-- 800 Iron Dome interceptors

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20 years ago , Turkiye had only American Missiles .. 100 ATACMS , 50 SLAM-ER , 90 HARM Missiles which can not reach even to Israel ... ( what an useless fire power )

Today , Turkiye has its own Ballistic , Cruise Missiles , long range guided munitions and kamikaze Drones which is the 2nd strongest fire power in NATO after USA

to produce 3.000 of them to hit all Israeli military targets , air Bases

Long range Kamikaze Drones
-- 700 km SUPER LIGHTNING ( turbojet engined )
-- 800 km KARGI anti-radiation

Cruise Missiles
-- 275 km SOM-J ( air launched )
-- 400+ km KARA-ATMACA
-- 1.000 km GEZGIN
-- also 150+ km CAKIR and KUZGUN-TJ to be carried in internal weapon bays of the KIZILELMA and ANKA-III unmanned stealth Fighter Jets for SEAD-DEAD role

Ballistic Missiles
-- 360 km BORA ( supersonic )
-- 500+ km 300-ER ( air launched )
-- 560+ km TAYFUN Block1/2 ( hypersonic )
-- 1.000+ km TAYFUN Block4 ( hypersonic )
-- 2.000 km CENK ( hypersonic )


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RESULT : Turkiye has capability to produce enough Missiles / Kamikaze Drones to fire from Turkish mainland , Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and Naval-Air Platforms to penetrate Israeli AD Systems

Note : Israel is no longer a technologically superior country in the region... Apart from the US-made F-35s, it has no other advantage, and with the entry into service of Turkish stealth platforms such as KAAN, KIZILELMA, and ANKA-3, Israel will also lose its air superiority in the region.