Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[falcon34]

 

[falcon34]

The animated graphic he uploaded lacks logic and represents a feeble endeavor at refuting the point. If you scan through those grainy photos, you fail to even spot the alleged structure he mentions. Perhaps only if you narrow your gaze, squint your eyes, and view it through an Indian filter, would it then appear reasonable.

Next, you need to reason rationally. How could those twin structures stand together, with merely one structure dismantled, while the other remains. Does it make sense?Even assuming it is dismantled for reasons they know, why are there scorch like stains visible on the image? Do you suggest the crew wrecking the edifice failed to perform a decent task for two years?

Finally, this self-proclaimed satellite images analyst, ought to possess sharp photos from any period. Thus, why utilize blurry pictures when you have access to cleared pictures like the one displayed on Bholari and Nur Khan airbase? It lacks logic to my mind. The only way this can be disputed, is if anybody can present a clearer picture of it occurring prior to May 7th, only then might it be relevant. Other than that, the damage is carried out by a Pakistan missile as there are no reports of the building demolishing due to any other matters arising (e.g conflict, terrorist attack, fire)

Despite that, even if this proves to be true, there now exist numerous separate photos accessible showing the destruction in different spots, so once more, there is minimal worry and plenty of satellites imagery on Indian damages. .

If that is their standard than this satellite imagery proves Barnala got hit.
The black dot in the middle proves it

 

[Hayabusa]

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If that is their standard than this satellite imagery proves Barnala got hit.
The black dot in the middle proves it

On a serious note, how do you even interpret this. It's too grainy to even make anything out of it.

 

[Princeps]

Brother I have tried, they don't even respond to mails.

There are many different vendors, some require emails and quotations while others allow payment on the website and delivery within hours. I have found one that's offering 30cm resolution 1km2 May 11 imagery of the site for a bit above 100 usd. If someone has the disposable income and wishes to purchase i can name the platform.

 

[Master Chief]

You are missing the point here. The before and after image of that twitter post shows the before image (dates 2023) and after image (dated 2025). The GE database does not have any images of the same area between those dates. The imagery that Damien posted, that is in low res, shows the missing imagery data in GE between 2023 and 2025. In the gif he shows in the low-res imagery that the structure was likely already like that prior to the conflict given that there was no change.

Look if you want to settle the debate simply purchase the latest hi-res image of the area prior to the conflict from a commercial provider. Post it so you can give a slap in the face against Damien and show him being biased, an indian loser and whatever derogative term you want to call him. I'm sure this forum would love to, but I guess that depends on whether you want to put your money where your mouth is .

Just to clarify i am referring to the image below.

Nope.

Keep living in delulu land. Why would I seek to alter that?

Your insistence of "no damage from Pak rockets saar" harms India far more than it damages me or Pakistan.

What makes you even think India would not be harmed by Pakistani rockets?

Israelis, despite their iron domes, knew full well that they would get hit by Iranian drones, missiles and rockets. That's why they built shelters.

Ukraine hits Russia repeatedly and with ease.

It is delusional to think Pakistan cannot or will not go toe to toe and inflict unbearable costs on India for its misadventurism.

 

[falcon34]

On a serious note, how do you even interpret this. It's too grainy to even make anything out of it.

I know ur right about but the sixth may one is clear not a single spot on the patch now on the second imagery from there is spot in right of the building.
I don't have free time or i'd simply **** damyein through GIS.
The reason I am not doing it is because the ones in amritsar are apparent hits, I don't need to waste my on iy but Barnala one oh I will waste my time on it, just not now and adampur.
Also it's been like 3 years I am in construction industry one look all it takes a hunch you can say it

 

[Tomcats]

The animated graphic he uploaded lacks logic and represents a feeble endeavor at refuting the point. If you scan through those grainy photos, you fail to even spot the alleged structure he mentions. Perhaps only if you narrow your gaze, squint your eyes, and view it through an Indian filter, would it then appear reasonable.

Next, you need to reason rationally. How could those twin structures stand together, with merely one structure dismantled, while the other remains. Does it make sense? Even assuming it is dismantled for reasons they know, why are there scorch like stains visible on the image? Do you suggest the crew wrecking the edifice failed to perform a decent task for two years?

Finally, this self-proclaimed satellite image analyst /geo-intelligence exper ought to possess sharp photos from any period. Thus, why utilize blurry pictures when you have access to clearer pictures like the one displayed on Bholari and Nur Khan airbase? He was parading it around like a trophy, and was even happily giving updates on the repair status of those roofs at those airbases. There were even times he was low-key mocking the time taken to repair those damages. But when it comes to India's bases, suddenly he has to utilise low resolution images? It lacks logic to my mind.

The only way this can be disputed, is if anybody can present a clearer picture of the original structure occurring prior to May 7th 2025 (preferably 6th to further reduce the chances of India claiming construction), only then might it be relevant. Other than that, the damage is carried out by a Pakistan missile since there are no reports of the building demolishing due to any other matters arising (e.g conflict, terrorist attack, fire)

Despite that, even if this proves to be true, there now exist numerous separate photos accessible showing the destruction in different areas, so once more, there is minimal worry and plenty of satellites imagery on Indian damages. .

The low res isn't supposed to show the actual structure but instead show whether there is a change to the structure sizeable enough that it would register a difference in the before and after satellite imagery. The low-res doesn't indicate a change, ergo the structure was likely already in that state prior to the conflict according to Damien.

Like I said, purchase the image, and the truth will come out . It's not like I don't want it to be true, who wouldn't want to know of actual targets we managed to hit.

Nope.

Keep living in delulu land. Why would I seek to alter that?

Your insistence of "no damage from Pak rockets saar" harms India far more than it damages me or Pakistan.

What makes you even think India would not be harmed by Pakistani rockets?

Israelis, despite their iron domes, knew full well that they would get hit by Iranian drones, missiles and rockets. That's why they built shelters.

Ukraine hits Russia repeatedly and with ease.

It is delusional to think Pakistan cannot or will not go toe to toe and inflict unbearable costs on India for its misadventurism.

I am not saying that there was no damage, I am only disputing the claims of these being targets that got hit. Most of them do not show any verifiable evidence. I know of an area that got hit in Pathankot as well that i managed to geolocate toward a cantt, what exactly got hit.. who knows.

 

[Master Chief]

I am not saying that there was no damage, I am only disputing the claims of these being targets that got hit. Most of them do not show any verifiable evidence. I know of an area that got hit in Pathankot as well that i managed to geolocate toward a cantt, what exactly got hit.. who knows.

Why dispute at all if you are satisfied with this insignificant (n.b. it was actually a ZERO damage narrative according to Ajit Doval - I take it you are now happy to call him a liar) damage narrative?

If you are happy with Damien Symon's pictures, so be it...but please get those cataracts fixed before driving or operating heavy machinery.

 

[Jango007]

The low res isn't supposed to show the actual structure but instead show whether there is a change to the structure sizeable enough that it would register a difference in the before and after satellite imagery. The low-res doesn't indicate a change, ergo the structure was likely already in that state prior to the conflict according to Damien.

Like I said, purchase the image, and the truth will come out . It's not like I don't want it to be true, who wouldn't want to know of actual targets we managed to hit.

I am not saying that there was no damage, I am only disputing the claims of these being targets that got hit. Most of them do not show any verifiable evidence. I know of an area that got hit in Pathankot as well that i managed to geolocate toward a cantt, what exactly got hit.. who knows.

I swear I read your most illogical explaination mankind ever invented ….. to see clearer it’s better to turn the lights off and see in complete darkness …..

What do you guys eat in Indian ?

 

[Oscar]

Fully agree. Narrative buildup and timing are enmeshed fully. Thats why when AP claimed about shooting down few aircraft everyone laughed it off.

That’s why ISPR should have released the pictures in a timely manner if they had any.
I still doubt that they had anything to show. I doubt that a professional like Aurangzeb would like to look like a heel by making unsubstantiated claims.

Which makes the AFM article claim which is verbatim:

Sources told the author(Warnes): "We have video recordings of the downed aircraft and battle damage assessment imagery which we intend to release at the time of our own choosing and when we deem it appropriate which will cause further embarrassment to the IAF"

What is both unknown is if these are PAF sources or twitter sources or otherwise, and if so what is the time and place regarding BDA since video and imagary of shot down jets is available so that aspect is not in India's favor well before this article came out.
But looking from PAF's lens - if India is releasing concrete images that show damage(the substantiality of it debatable - and you have acknowledged it in the article as well you had damage) - then what "huge embarrassment" do you hold that could trigger what specifically which you are holding off on "time and place of your choosing"?

 

[maxpane]

Indians right now. Google bik gai ha

 

[Falcon26]

Which makes the AFM article claim which is verbatim:

Sources told the author(Warnes): "We have video recordings of the downed aircraft and battle damage assessment imagery which we intend to release at the time of our own choosing and when we deem it appropriate which will cause further embarrassment to the IAF"

What is both unknown is if these are PAF sources or twitter sources or otherwise, and if so what is the time and place regarding BDA since video and imagary of shot down jets is available so that aspect is not in India's favor well before this article came out.
But looking from PAF's lens - if India is releasing concrete images that show damage(the substantiality of it debatable - and you have acknowledged it in the article as well you had damage) - then what "huge embarrassment" do you hold that could trigger what specifically which you are holding off on "time and place of your choosing"?

Well said.

The ISPR folks are truly something else. Nothing else to say about them expect they are hopelessly incompetent and out of touch.

 

[ghazi52]

India, Instead of Pakistan, Has Been Deterred by Operation Sindoor​

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India, Instead of Pakistan, Has Been Deterred by Operation Sindoor​

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This nigga is an engagement farm, gathering $ views from Pakistan for his pro-pak military commentary.

 

[Sparten]

Neither of these evidenced are from official sources AFAIK.

Even if official sources release such images today their impact will be the same as if IAF chief’s absurd claims.

There is nothing in the new releases that hasn't been known since May, we now just have nice pictures to go with it. I mean, we saw multiple videos and images of striikes back in May, with plooms of smoke and explosions.