PAF Conducts Successful Test Launch of Taimoor ALCM

[Ali_Baba]

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I don't know in detail what the certification process is for weapons to be cleared for operational use and large scale manufacturing. However, there was no NOTAM issued for this test, so we don't know how many test flights it has already had prior to to this test. Normally there would be a few dozen test flights to be sure that all works as expected.

 

[Goenitz]

we already have them , wouldn't be able to make a terrain hugging missile without it

no expert but altimeter data is sufficient for terrain hugging inaddition navigation inputs. I don't think the memory is that much to store so many images.
I was asking bcz Ra'ad may have an optical modular block but if Taimor is built with it, what should be the targets? If Ra'ad could do the job then why we need Taimor. Therefore, itis built for different targets, preferably non-stationary.

 

[Hussain]

I think Pakistan has selective/limited use of Chinese satellites for observation purposes, but is that the same as being allowed to use them for active targeting and guidance of strike operations ? Chinese will have drawn a line on how they can be used of course, but we don't know where that line is.

Brother, lets agree to disagree, I might inadvertently reveal too much...

 

[ghazi52]

Taimoor Air-Launched Cruise Missile. — Screengrab from video via X/@DGPR

Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has successfully conducted the flight test of the indigenously developed “Taimoor” weapon system, the military’s media affairs wing said on Saturday.

In a statement, Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) said the development marked another significant milestone in the advancement of national aerospace and defence capabilities.

“Taimoor air-launched cruise missile is capable of engaging enemy land and sea targets with high precision at a range of 600 kilometres, carrying a conventional warhead,” it said.

 

[hasssanali8998]

no expert but altimeter data is sufficient for terrain hugging inaddition navigation inputs. I don't think the memory is that much to store so many images.

sorry i meant the data about the terrain heights and feature , which btw also come form satellites .

If Ra'ad could do the job

raad> for nuclear payload
Taimoor > for conventional ( and since its not nuclear accuracy matter a lot)

 

[falcon34]

So Pilot still controls the target in the end using optical feedback like the H4 SOW? If the link stays connected, it will be deadly for S400 (the video shows a land target).

BTW, any basic info on how CM400 locked on the cheesboard? What if the cheeseboard was switched off like 10 sec before?

Nope the pilot doesn't control it, TERCOM AND DSMAC AND INS guide the missile whilst in terminal stage IIR seeker takes over.
What ur saying is TV guidance

 

[Bilal]

Nope the pilot doesn't control it, TERCOM AND DSMAC AND INS guide the missile whilst in terminal stage IIR seeker takes over.
What ur saying is TV guidance

Again IIR seeker =/= by default autonomous ATR.

The feed of H4 from swift retort can be seen coming via an IIR seeker.

 

[Bratva]

In the words it can't be jammed right?.

Not Jammed. But shot down easily by an Infrared sam missile or by a radar guided missile. Afterall it is a slow moving target. Either you release this missile in saturation or do what russians did

Russian Kh-101 Cruise Missile Filmed Firing-Off Decoy Flares

Kh-101 missiles with built-in countermeasures emerged earlier this year, but this is the first time this capability has been seen in use.

www.twz.com

 

[conqueror]

Dude that thing came in so fast you can't even see it. I had to play this at 0.25 speed and pause within a fraction of a second to get this frame. InsaneView attachment 169529

Use < and > arrows on your keyboard in YouTube. They'd get you frame-by-frame access in the future.

Indeed the missile was fast, I was able to capture two frames from the video, screenshots below.

 

[Liquidator]

Anyone know what speeds it can travel at? Still subsonic?

Mach 14
@Oscar

 

[Bratva]

Again IIR seeker =/= by default autonomous ATR.

The feed of H4 from swift retort can be seen coming via an IIR seeker.

Contrast seeker - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Contrast Seeker

• Principle: Detects differences in light or IR radiation, essentially seeing a target as a darker or brighter shape against its background (e.g., an aircraft's silhouette against the sky).
• Technology: Can operate in visible light or IR wavelengths, often switching between modes. Early versions used simple optical contrast.
• Pros: Effective against targets with strong background contrast, useful for engaging targets on opposing courses.
• Cons: Less effective at long ranges, accuracy can decrease as it gets closer (target fills the view), sensitive to weather (haze, smoke).

Imaging Infrared (IIR) Seeker

• Principle: Builds a thermal image (a picture of heat) of the target, locking onto distinct hot spots like jet engines.
• Technology: Advanced seekers that create detailed infrared images, allowing for target identification and discrimination.
• Pros: Excellent against vehicles (tanks, jets) due to strong heat signatures, more resistant to simple decoys, less affected by atmospheric conditions than older IR seekers.
• Cons: More expensive, can be vulnerable to advanced countermeasures like Direct Infrared Countermeasures (DIRCM) or high-powered lasers, and flares can spoof them.

 

[conqueror]

in 2019, Indian Airfare had dropped Spice 2000 on a Masjid in Independent Kashmir, which happened to be intact.

I am just wondering has that missile given birth to a new species of missiles in Pakistani Arsenal? Also it won't be just in Pakistani Arsenal if you know what I mean.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Mach 14
@Oscar

987.84 km/h is it max speed ( not in usual flight though )

 

[Bratva]

affirm, it does hint at the paf wanting something more capable for anti shipping.

i wonder whether this could mean the pn would deploy these onboard sea sultans

PN is leaning more towards Harbah route

 

[Bratva]

harbah has an iir option for what its worth, not sure what the pn's qualms were with it and why they chose not to pursue it further.

OTOH, its pretty clear that rasoob is a PN sponsored project and one they intend to deploy on ships too...

View attachment 169586

Sea King, Shahpar 3(naval) and ATR? who else operates these...

semi armour peircing? sounds like a shaped charge for ships

booster...surface launched(weak argument, could be because of the sea king too tbf)

So, im not sure whether this has any value for the PN, rasoob, rightly so, is where their bets seem to be

Harbah is easily intercepted in its original form. Engine was not that great. As per the PN officer, they could see Harbah coming off slowly from miles, which means interception becomes easy.

But if we see Fatah-IV and how the speed metric has improved. Let's see if PN goes through Harbah route once again on Azmat class FAC