PAF Conducts Successful Test Launch of Taimoor ALCM

[Bratva]

Yeah. Someone else was also confusing Beidou for a sat system. It is a GNSS system with an extremely limited SMS system for emergency relief. Did you consider how easy it would be to spoof a text message? It is not secure.

I wont name names, but recently a critical government organization in "X country" was hacked by its own cybersecurity institution as part of black penetration test. An SMS system was hijacked and the entity sent jibberish sms texts with the name of "Critical government organization" to lot of people. An example would be NADRA sms system getting hacked and they sending you sms with questionable links. Once I read the report, it was eye opening, the SMS system was somehow exposed to internet side and they found it while they were scanning for open ports. Did the classic sql injection sort of attack. Took root control of the system.

This would have started the international incident if sms from government organzation name sent to International leaders.

Qatar was boycotted by Saudi and UAE and Bahrain for a similar reasons as their news agency was hacked and put controversial article about Saudi.

 

[hasssanali8998]

I wont name names

where's the fun in that man , why cant you guys be like war thunder players

 

[Bratva]

Kirana hills, Bholari, C2 node at Nur Khan, RYK Terminal, list is actually quite soberingly long. Although whether they were all Brahmos... dunno.

Well... a lot of people said the IAF was grounded, yet during 10th May we saw Air launched munitions used extensively indicating IAF involvement. Yet PAF saw nowhere near the same level of success in engaging them on the first day.

You do know the range of their longs sticks is b/w 500-700 KM's? So lobbing from 250-300 KM away from the Pakistani border and staying away from PL-15 range is what they did. It is common sense, they were not lobbing some 200-300 KM missiles at us.

 

[Bratva]

where the fun in that man , why cant you guys be like war thunder players

I would disappear like those indian navy personnel in Qatar.

 

[Michael]

Yeah. Someone else was also confusing Beidou for a sat system. It is a GNSS system with an extremely limited SMS system for emergency relief. Did you consider how easy it would be to spoof a text message? It is not secure.

Some additional information:

The Beidou system is currently in its third generation, with the fourth generation not yet in service. Since Beidou-1, it has integrated some communication satellite functions, providing a "short message" service.

This service requires specialized equipment (including ordinary smartphones with special chips) to support it. It is a paid service for civilian use, costing approximately 0.3 RMB per message. Currently, this system is installed in commercial vehicles and vessels in China, allowing for real-time communication with transportation management departments. The military portion of the BeiDou system also supports this function.

However, this "short message" function cannot support missile communication; the Beidou system can only provide positioning and navigation services for missiles. There is currently no available information regarding the next generation of the Beidou system.

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On the evening of December 17, 2025, a widespread navigation system failure occurred in Nanjing, China. Multiple commonly used navigation applications (such as AutoNavi and Baidu Maps) experienced problems including inaccurate positioning and incorrect navigation routes. ------ The signal interference was short-lived, and the navigation system returned to normal later that evening.
According to investigations by the Nanjing Municipal Emergency Management Bureau and the Nanjing Satellite Association, the cause was temporary interference and jamming of GNSS satellite signals (including Beidou and GPS).
During this interference incident, industry-level and military-grade users of the Beidou system were unaffected, and their navigation signals remained fully functional.

 

[Bratva]

Thanks for the additional insights. Having read The Islamic Bomb, Eating Grass and Mansoor Ahmed’s Pakistan’s pathway to the bomb, I have been amazed at the resilience and resourcefulness, not to mention the sheer determination, of Pakistan’s nuclear establishment in getting the bomb. I imagined similar trait existed in the missile program. Unfortunately, it seems GHQ has also poisoned Pakistan’s strategic community by introducing politics and toxicity.

Put it this way, Pakistan is still trying to procure the items the way it used to in 80's and 90's while thinking American/European surveillance & monitoring is still of 80's and 90's while they catching and banning Pakistani supply chain with 21st century methods.

 

[Bratva]

It's not just GHQ. Rather, our society breeds a certain class of parasite (i.e., babu-dakus) who spread themselves into every corner of our structure, be it the political system, bureaucracy, GHQ, and so on.

The only place where they couldn't take control are true private sector companies (emphasis on "true" because the rent-seeking wholesaler importers are just babu-daku creations).

In the true private sector, what matters isn't your creed, your caste, your tribe, your officer rank, etc., but straight up P&L and the KPIs that feed into P&L. In that environment, baku-dakus die like roaches in acid.

So, their "solution" has been to gut the true private sector by breaking the economy's incentives structure, i.e., overtax freelancers, throttle the internet, keep high taxes on manufacturers (or steal their IP), nationalization (e.g., of the 22 industrialist families pre-1970s), trash Karachi, and so on.

What we make in the way of hard-currency inflows is a result of the hard work done in Sialkot, the minerals in Baluchistan, the ports in Karachi, and other very limited, small-scale vestiges of what made Pakistan great.

The babu-dakus destroyed everything else. It won't change until we, as a society, expose and roast these buggers out in the open. These roaches can't even let us have a Goddamn good cricket team. There are entire juntas in Latin America who can produce FIFA World Cup winning teams but our babu-dakus won't even give us that basic courtesy.

PS: You'll notice from Mansoor's book parts about how the babu-dakus tried taking over the nuclear weapons program. Thank God Zia ul-Haq didn't fall for their BS at the time and, remarkably, neither did BB (despite her flaws).

Thanks to Seth Abid the smuggler who helped us in getting the parts and specialized equipment for nuclear program.

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[Tomcats]

You do know the range of their longs sticks is b/w 500-700 KM's? So lobbing from 250-300 KM away from the Pakistani border and staying away from PL-15 range is what they did. It is common sense, they were not lobbing some 200-300 KM missiles at us.

Yeah so? My point is that the IAF were most certainly active and very successful in their strike all things considered compared to the initial strikes they performed. If you want to continue, just tag me in the relevant thread as I don't want to clog this thread up further.

 

[RAMPAGE]

The issue is that Pakistan may have decades of experience producing missiles, but it lacks both the experience and capacity to produce those missiles at scale.

This is an economic problem in general and an industrial constraint in particular. We don't have policies, let alone mechanisms and funding, geared towards industrial defence programming.

Hence why we're at a point where some folks (including our resident ex-PAF IR scholar) are stuck on PAC apparently being better at making JF-17s than HAL is with Tejas, but completely, entirely, and shamelessly ignoring how HAL can source alloys, composites, DEECs inputs, gas turbine inputs, flight control systems, etc, etc, all indigenously while PAC must import all of that from China or other sources.

In general, our side can't even converse or think clearly on this matter, much less come to an understanding of what's necessary, hence why people like @JamD have to repeat this over and over and over again until it lands.

And the bigger tragedy is that we did have industrial experts, i.e., the many folks and entities that contributed towards our nuclear program. Thus, if nat-sec leadership held itself accountable, we probably could rekindle the spirit and start building that industrial capacity.

Let's not stoop to low blows. Your argument was working fine without it.

 

[krash]

Lols, Qadianizzz always downgrade our achievements, we are the one who develop software and codes for JF-17.

do u think i am a qadiani because i have abdus salam as pfp .

And if he was, then what? Mighty unintelligent statement.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you would like me to explain?

MTCR?

The Chinese government has publicly committed to complying with the MTCR. Therefore, all weapons sold by China comply with the MTCR.

However, if a customer modifies the product privately after receiving it, China is not responsible for the consequences.

In that case, How IAF got the SCALP-EG? arent they should also come under the radar of MTCR? these SCALP has more than 300km range

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

bhai their scalp has that 300km range cap

I dont know, but they said they fired SCALP from well beyond 150+ km inside india. Then this shows that SCALP range is definitely higher than 300KM? and if it is the same as original 500km plus range than why there was no MTCR for India?

 

[hasssanali8998]

How IAF got the SCALP-EG?

they are part of MTCR hence they can get missiles that are more than 300 km

 

[hasssanali8998]

I dont know, but they said they fired SCALP from well beyond 150+ km inside india. Then this shows that SCALP range is definitely higher than 300KM? and if it is the same as original 500km plus range than why there was no MTCR for India?

yeah sorry i mistake i though so too but

they are part of MTCR hence they can get missiles that are more than 300 km

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

they are part of MTCR hence they can get missiles that are more than 300 km

ye baat samjhaaye that they are part? means who ever is a part of MTCR than they are not obliged for more than 300 km ranges? phir tau pakistan ko b part ban jaana chahiye?

Excuse if i have asked a foolish question as i have no knowledge of MTCR except missiles less than 300km range can be exported