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Give it a year. I will see just how active and agile they are once they have grown accustom to eating the "daal roti" at Police lines.

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So is ARU, the problem with such fancy shiny units is - let's be honest its a cover up for greasy palms and kickbacks for tenders and slices of cake. Bharti and transfers also cost safarish and Quaid-E-Azam.

So many needless experiments in policing in Pakistan - what a farce.
 
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But they cannot be prosecuted in the court if the act in "Good faith" . The definition of good faith is so broad that none of them can be prosecuted for even a murder.
 
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Give it a year. I will see just how active and agile they are once they have grown accustom to eating the "daal roti" at Police lines.


So is ARU, the problem with such fancy shiny units is - let's be honest its a cover up for greasy palms and kickbacks for tenders and slices of cake. Bharti and transfers also cost safarish and Quaid-E-Azam.

So many needless experiments in policing in Pakistan - what a farce.
Judicial immunity has been given for the first time i guess?

Likewise 10 year imprisonment clause for damaging public property. That can be a window or a flower pot or an entire building.
So if i accidentally knock over a "Gamla" i am liable to 10 years imprisonment in Punjab.
 
Judicial immunity has been given for the first time i guess?
Judicial immunity is just a fancy word, the wheels came off our judiciary a long time ago. I wont derail this thread but I have a very good understanding of how the police works inside Pakistan, this is an exercise in stupidity.

Police officers are already legally protected under the Police Act 1861 and Police Order 2001.
 
But they cannot be prosecuted in the court if the act in "Good faith" . The definition of good faith is so broad that none of them can be prosecuted for even a murder.

So what's new in that?
 
Judicial immunity is just a fancy word, the wheels came off our judiciary a long time ago. I wont derail this thread but I have a very good understanding of how the police works inside Pakistan, this is an exercise in stupidity.

Police officers are already legally protected under the Police Act 1861 and Police Order 2001.
My be , but the new law has been passed by Punjab assembly/ They created new terminologies.
Riot zone, and Good faith.
Also increased the prison term massively'

So a riot Police can do anything inside Riot Zone.
 
So if i accidentally knock over a "Gamla" i am liable to 10 years imprisonment in Punjab.
The test here is criminal intent, legally known as Mens Rea - if you had no intention of committing a criminal act or omission it can be treated as merely recklessness which is at most punishable by a fine.
 
The test here is criminal intent, legally known as Mens Rea - if you had no intention of committing a criminal act or omission it can be treated as merely recklessness which is at most punishable by a fine.
Yeah, but it was 1 year until now. Its 10 year from now onwards. Clearly a draconian law for a Gamlaa.
 
The new law approved by Punjab Assembly. Thats new. Read it

Good atleast this saw some semblance of procedure otherwise everything was run via executive orders in the previous gobarment
 
Good atleast this saw some semblance of procedure otherwise everything was run via executive orders in the previous gobarment
No its no good. The intent is to stop people from any form of protests. People should bear everything and shut up. This is not democracy. I did not see such extreme measures during General Zia and General Musharraf era. The to so called Dictatorships i remember from Day 1 to the day last
 
No its no good. The intent is to stop people from any form of protests. People should bear everything and shut up. This is not democracy. I did not see such extreme measures during General Zia and General Musharraf era. The to so called Dictatorships i remember from Day 1 to the day last

Dafa 144 is to stop people from gathering. This is to deter riots.

How's it not democrazy? You just said Punjab assembly passed it. Doesn't get more democratic than this.
 
Dafa 144 is to stop people from gathering. This is to deter riots.

How's it not democrazy? You just said Punjab assembly passed it. Doesn't get more democratic than this.
So,,,,,,,,, The neww la says. The executive will establish "Riot zone" , which is the unelected commissioner . The Riot police will have a free hand in the Riot zone. Meaning they can do what they like, and cannot be prosecuted in the court if acted in "Good faith".
Who will determine the "Good faith"?
So thats immunity for the police. But for the people a punishment which was previously 1 year, is now 10 years, and can be given by the lowest of the courts . The person can then wait in the jail for many years for his appeal case to be decided in a higher court.

Hows that democracy?

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Yeah, but it was 1 year until now. Its 10 year from now onwards. Clearly a draconian law for a Gamlaa.
Using the breaking of a gamla in the context of a riot is inaccurate - a riot is considered an unlawful assembly s144 - of 5 or more persons who are engaged in "violent disorder".

Breaking a gamla on your own doesnt fit that definition hence it would not be included in the overarching wording of proposed bill.

As for riot zones, that is for the CPO or IG to determine, since he is the ultimate authority within the provincial police force.

I understand what you are saying, I do. But if you think this is draconian have you even read the text of PECA? 🙃
 

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