Turkey Said to Seek Membership of Saudi-Pakistan Defense Pact

[hyperman]

That is the million dollar question - because the Qualm prefers their apartments and money to Pakistan any minute of their days.
Interestingly, I would think Pakistanis would be better served by taking their Dubai investments(at least those not totally haram) and moving it to KSA. That will gain a lot of goodwill.


Both Medina and Makkah are opening up to foreign ownership soon - and all over - this is where Pakistanis should park money (because nothing will convince them of investing in Pakistan) and at least help build goodwill where it matters instead of their repute as filthy day laborers and beggars.

From what I'm reading, Saudis may end up engineering a coup in the UAE. Saudis are currently backing the Emir of Sharjah(Salafi conservative Emirate with warm relations with Saudi) to become the leader of the UAE.

Abu Dhabi is the largest Emirate and most powerful politically and militarily, but the United Arab Emirates require the Acquiescence of all 7 to rule. Dubai is neutral on the geopolitical game, so Idk how they would react. But Sharjah will align with Saudi if push comes to shove.

 

[Ibbi32]

Is divestment divestment away from uae possible?

Its probably more likely for Pakistanis in uae to divest from Pakistan than the opposite. Frankly Pakistan cannot handle antagonising UAE because we are so heavily linked by both population and being so heavily dependent on them financially

 

[RescueRanger]

Is divestment divestment away from uae possible?

For that to happen you will need to see tangible financial incentives from KSA - you have to understand the scale at which certain Pakistanis have invested inside the UAE is eye watering.

 

[Michael]

There is no "leader" there are converging interests.

No leader? What kind of alliance is that?

If the US launches a surprise attack on the Saudi royal family, will Türkiye and Pakistan send troops?

How do France, Germany and UK have a partnership? Who is the Leader?

What kind of military alliance do these three countries have?
If the US withdraws from NATO and Europe, see what happens between these three countries.

 

[Oscar]

From what I'm reading, Saudis may end up engineering a coup in the UAE. Saudis are currently backing the Emir of Sharjah(Salafi conservative Emirate with warm relations with Saudi) to become the leader of the UAE.

Abu Dhabi is the largest Emirate and most powerful politically and militarily, but the United Arab Emirates require the Acquiescence of all 7 to rule. Dubai is neutral on the geopolitical game, so Idk how they would react. But Sharjah will align with Saudi if push comes to shove.

Abu Dhabi cannot be disloged and it can push back by tryng to engineer its own coup in KSA. People assume MBS is "overlord" but there is a entire backbone of elders and heads in Princes that has pledged to his father and will eventually pledge to him.

 

[Ibbi32]

Arabs and their love for “bloodless”coups will never stop being funny to me. Sad to say the real blood from these spats will never reach close to those in power

 

[r3alist]

For that to happen you will need to see tangible financial incentives from KSA - you have to understand the scale at which certain Pakistanis have invested inside the UAE is eye watering.

Yes agreed, it's a big change

 

[K2RULEZ]

You have Pakistani officials themselves making the matter of the Nuclear Umbrella explicit. And Pakistan is building IRMBs, this is most definitely not about India, Delhi is a stone's throw from Islamabad, you don't build IRBM for that..

Saudis did fund Pakistan its been documented and commented on by Pakistani officials.

I can assure you that Pakistan is building everything it requires and that includes missiles beyond IRMB.

 

[K2RULEZ]

Yes but in the same way, IF Israel were to nuke Turkey or Saudi Arabia then they must know that Pakistan was likely to act and that makes the equation very complex for Israel. You just never know what could happen in the Fog of War.
Coming back to this topic: I don't think Pakistan is given enough credit in this equation. Not only a massive 250 million population--Russia had to get soldiers from North Korea against Ukraine!-- but also a military battle hardened against both conventional and non-conventional threats; plus a decent-enough defense industry and an Air Force which punches way above its weight. Pakistan also has good working relationships with all major powers right now: Russia, China and America and very good relationships with Iran, Turkey, Azerbaijan and the GCC rich Arab countries.
I dare say: Pakistan is the linchpin in such equations!

You are right. The alliance is a deterrent in itself.

 

[hussain0216]

Pakistan is an economic basket case. It cannot afford to antagonise either the UAE or Saudi Arabia. It is best to look inwards rather than get involved in these foreign entanglements. One of the few things Nawaz Sharif did right was to resist the pressure to get Pakistan directly involved in Yemen, but I doubt his brother has the spine to stand up to the generals, who are the only ones who will benefit from renting out Pakistan's military assets and personnel.

When will you learn, the world is changing and Pakistan with nuclear weapons, a 250 million young population a large capable military is well positioned for the future

It's coming to the stage where the enemies of Pakistan should be very very worried about the power Pakistan will grow into

And the alliances that Turkey/Turkic world, Arabs/Arab world, Pakistan, China, Iran and others are forming will change the world

 

[mulj]

It would be nice that people here who bashed turkiye being zio stooge and such apologize now when they witness what is politic in most brutal and realistic manner.

 

[Samurai]

Turkey is seeking to join the defense alliance between Saudi Arabia and nuclear-armed Pakistan, according to people familiar with the matter, paving the way for a new security alignment that could shift the balance of power in the Middle East and beyond.

The deal, initially signed by Saudi Arabia and Pakistan in September, states that “any aggression” against one country is considered an attack on all. That mirrors Article 5 in NATO, of which Turkey is the largest military after the US. The talks are at an advanced stage and a deal is very likely, said the people, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Source:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-01-09/turkey-said-to-seek-membership-of-saudi-pakistan-defense-pact

That's great news and hopefully it comes to fruition. I really hope that Iran also be part of this alliance in the future, but the future of Iran looks grim to me if the secularists overthrow the present regime and the Zionist loving Reza Pahlavi takes over. Those Iranians are the worst lot because they are pro-Zionist and anti-Islam. But all in all if Allah willing this alliance is successful, then more countries will join it such as Egypt and this will be a first proto-Nato alliance of the Muslim world.

 

[hyperman]

Abu Dhabi cannot be disloged and it can push back by tryng to engineer its own coup in KSA. People assume MBS is "overlord" but there is a entire backbone of elders and heads in Princes that has pledged to his father and will eventually pledge to him.

Yes, but many of the other factions are far more hostile towards the UAE/Israel project if anything. Bin Salman has been the one that flirted with normalization but there was internal opposition, Bin Salman was the one who treated Bin Zayed like his mentor. Saudi also is a lot more centralized than the UAE, which works on the power sharing of Emirates, and is more federal. The current setup in the UAE is far more fragile than the Saudi Setup, Bin Salman even carried out a purge to consolidate, his potential opponents are far more hostile to the UAE than Bin Salman, who deferred to the UAE until it became a threat to Saudi itself when the Emirati proxy tried to wipe out the Saudi proxy and tried to put an Israeli base in Yemen on Saudi's borders and in Somaliland(another Bin Zayed Project), the potential loss of control over the red sea which Saudi depends on, as well as the Gulf of Aden is what made Saudi freak out enough to take action, and demand the Emiratis withdraw from Yemen and the STC being destroyed in a matter of weeks, with all its leaders imprisoned and the leader fleeing to Abu Dhabi.

The Emirati setup relies on the acquiescence of 7 Emirates, 5 on them including Sharjah are incredibly conservative(Sharjah bans alcohol completely even in hotels and tourist places for example), and they largely don't go on foreign adventures, Dubai is very liberal, but doesn't do geopolitics and is neutral. Abu Dhabi and specifically the 3 brothers of the House of Nahyan are the ones that run things, and even in their own Emirate they have enemies, many of whom fled to Doha(who Abu Dhabi hates), Abu Dhabi also is the Emirate that borders Saudi, so if Saudi gets the 5 emirates on board, and Dubai stays neutral, Saudi only needs to deal with Abu Dhabi, an Emir from the Smaller states will also be seen as a less geopolitically ambitious and less controlling of power within the UAE, so that may also be a factor in the 5 other Emirates going along with it. The real issue is how the US reacts, but who know Trump is unpredictable, he could decide to stay out of it.

 

[hyperman]

If the US launches a surprise attack on the Saudi royal family, will Türkiye and Pakistan send troops?

US won't launch an attack so the point is moot. Is Israel launches an attack by this treaty, there will be an intervention with the Pakistanis certainly per the treaty as well as Turkey if it joins.

If the US attacks Germany, France will likely attack the United States. The UK is a wildcard, but lets say the US leaves NATO, the UK will not abandon the 3 country setup IMO.

 

[Foinikas]

Allies? What? Its a business transaction. Did Turkey say if Russia goes to war, Turkey would go to war for it or support it?

Remember, white Russia was selling S-400s, Turk was on opposite ends of the conflict in Syria, Libya and elsewhere. To the point where Russian Airstrikes killed Turkish troops(they said it was Assad but we know), Turkish drones killed Russian Special Forces disguised as "Wagner", and other matters. Or Turkish drones in Ukraine killing Russians.

Sir,country of Turk is surround Greece contry,wot u do in Syria,Libya,Albania,FYROM,Kosovo,
Bosnia,Qatar,Azerbaijan?