Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ToddE]

What can the public do? The government will do what it wills. US is a highly controlled society, with an appearance of democracy, which does exist, but the decision makers and foreign policy is removed from public decision making. This is why presidential candidates never speak about their policy, media never asks them the tough questions during campaigns and the voting base is largely ignorant of who they’re actually voting for, usually it is based in emotions (i like him/her bc xyz), not based on actual policy.

I believe some youth if not all will know in future who Jews own by the balls and who they don't. We are after all living in Information age.

 

[Sri]

How do you know many innocent will die? The Internet is obviously taken down to restore order. But you sound like you're accusing the authorities without evidence,

It happened earlier also . Almost 1500 people died last time also

2019 Internet blackout in Iran - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[hasn2009]

obviously fake news ... nonsense source

Doug is a known person, former Senior Advisor to the US Secretary of Defense

 

[kastor ville]

My God, we're living in a comedy sketch. Trump is contemplating striking Iran to save Iranians, meanwhile, American citizens are executed by masked men in broad daylight....and there are massive rallies, much bigger than the ones in Iran going on in several cities.....you can't make this shit up. You might as well, grab a bottle and some snacks and watch this sad world burn itself down.

 

[BigMela2onin]

I believe some youth if not all will know in future who Jews own by the balls and who they don't. We are after all living in Information age.

The internet is being slowly enclosed on for that very reason. We already know they invest huge amounts pushing narratives across all social media and even managed to pressure tik tok into selling. And those autonomous civilian killing AI quadcopters being used in Palestine are their plan B. Every major police department in the US will probably be using them by 2030.

 

[ToddE]

The internet is being slowly enclosed on for that very reason. We already know they invest huge amounts pushing narratives across all social media and even managed to pressure tik tok into selling. And those autonomous civilian killing AI quadcopters being used in Palestine are their plan B. Every major police department in the US will probably be using them by 2030.

Tech always provide the alternative very fast. Decades back websites used to be blocked for censorship but then social media came and same tactics does not work anymore. There is always another more wild opening present when one information channel is blocked. Lets see what happens.

 

[ToddE]

My God, we're living in a comedy sketch. Trump is contemplating striking Iran to save Iranians, meanwhile, American citizens are executed by masked men in broad daylight....and there are massive rallies, much bigger than the ones in Iran going on in several cities.....you can't make this shit up. You might as well, grab a bottle and some snacks and watch this sad world burn itself down.

All of it happening just because Trump did some underage kids. At this point he should just admit it in media and be like "So what" so Jews cant blackmail him anymore.

 

[SolarWarden]

No attack on Iran is going to take place until you see US assets moving to the region like you did weeks before the 12 day war and strike on Iran nuke facility. No carriers or Burke destroyers are there in force so lets do what the 90s R&B song says and Lets chill... lets settle down.

 

[Ali_Baba]

risk of US attacking some sites in Iran is increasing

either symbolic: IRGC bases, Basij bases, police HQ

or tactical: SSM bases to suppress retaliation

or strategic: widespread strikes against SSM infrastructure

(or a combination for a full scale operation to degrade Iran's missile capabilities)

what should Iran's response be ? symbolically send a few missiles at Al Udeid base in Qatar again?

Donald Trump is a bully who only respects strength. Look how low he regards Europeans as "weak" because they don't resist him, and how he has respect for Putin and Xi. Strength. Streetwise strength.

Donald Trump has found a new toy, which is to use his military at no cost to him. So far, he has gotten lucky to not have any, or significant casualties in these operations. That is why he thinks he can use it against Iran, because the last time, Iran did not really respond.

If Iran wants to not be the subject of continued Trump attention to serve as a political distraction for him in the future, Iran has to raise the cost to Trump personally. It has to impose a real cost.

Ideally, Iran can bag a stealth bomber or two if that is what the Americans plan on using ( perfect opportunity for China to test some new anti-stealth equipment ) as a cost. Or, it can take on an American base in one of the Arab states, and totally take it fully out of operation with no "signalling" or co-ordination to reduce casualties. Bahrain would be better? Closer etc.

Donald Trump is a bully.

This maybe Iran’s last chance to stop a bigger war. If Iran is easy now and it does not force a real cost on the Americans, then war is most certainly coming. Trump will be tricked into it as an easy job for him and how it will be good for his legacy to take care of the Iran problem. Israel wants a war to start because it knows once it starts, it will cause significant damage on Iran and that works for them regardless. So, Iran has to deter that decision making logic for Trump

 

[Arash]

obviously fake news ... nonsense source

Well col MC gregor Is an outspiken critic of thr trump admin. It isn't unlikely that such thing happens.......... but it can also be pressure to force the govt to negotiate, don't forget that the Omani minister came to Tehran recently......

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Well col MC gregor Is an outspiken critic of thr trump admin. It isn't unlikely that such thing happens.......... but it can also be pressure to force the govt to negotiate, don't forget that the Omani minister came to Tehran recently......

Trump 1 did the same when they moved their Navy near Iran (Pompeo and bolton were on his side then). It's either pressure tactic, but could also be real (else they will publish trumps pedo activities).

So Iran better hit their regional bases hard and really kill some good number of American colonists in Middle East and then prolong the war (include Houthis and regional resistance) so that US enters a new long costly war.

Turn threats into opportunity. Think about long term gains (10-50 years), accept short term loses (days, weeks, months, years)

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Donald Trump is a bully who only respects strength. Look how low he regards Europeans as "weak" because they don't resist him, and how he has respect for Putin and Xi. Strength. Streetwise strength.

Donald Trump has found a new toy, which is to use his military at no cost to him. So far, he has gotten lucky to not have any, or significant casualties in these operations. That is why he thinks he can use it against Iran, because the last time, Iran did not really respond.

If Iran wants to not be the subject of continued Trump attention to serve as a political distraction for him in the future, Iran has to raise the cost to Trump personally. It has to impose a real cost.

Ideally, Iran can bag a stealth bomber or two if that is what the Americans plan on using ( perfect opportunity for China to test some new anti-stealth equipment ) as a cost. Or, it can take on an American base in one of the Arab states, and totally take it fully out of operation with no "signalling" or co-ordination to reduce casualties. Bahrain would be better? Closer etc.

Donald Trump is a bully.

This maybe Iran’s last chance to stop a bigger war. If Iran is easy now and it does not force a real cost on the Americans, then war is most certainly coming. Trump will be tricked into it as an easy job for him and how it will be good for his legacy to take care of the Iran problem. Israel wants a war to start because it knows once it starts, it will cause significant damage on Iran and that works for them regardless. So, Iran has to deter that decision making logic for Trump

Cutting off Venezuela before the impending attack on IR, was designed to lull, biggest threat from IR: a naval blockade of Hormuz.

a clear indication to IR, bow down or be ready to go to gallows!

 

[Ali_Baba]

Trump 1 did the same when they moved their Navy near Iran (Pompeo and bolton were on his side then). It's either pressure tactic, but could also be real (else they will publish trumps pedo activities).

So Iran better hit their regional bases hard and really kill some good number of American colonists in Middle East and then prolong the war (include Houthis and regional resistance) so that US enters a new long costly war.

Turn threats into opportunity. Think about long term gains (10-50 years), accept short term loses (days, weeks, months, years)

Donald Trump wants something easy, and it is down to the IRI to show it will not be easy. This next decision IRI makes will be significant imho on whether USA will do a follow up war or not. Iran has been over thinking, and over analysing and intellectualising calibrated message and responses so far, and the USA has ignored them because the USA has fundamentally come to the belief that Iran will be a push over based on its actions.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Cutting off Venezuela before the impending attack on IR, was designed to lull, biggest threat from IR: a naval blockade of Hormuz.

a clear indication to IR, bow down or be ready to go to gallows!

It could be an attempt by the USA to signal to Iran also, that it wants just the leader for a easy PR win and that the "rest of the regime" can stay in place if they give up the leader ?

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Donald Trump wants something easy, and it is down to the IRI to show it will not be easy. This next decision IRI makes will be significant imho on whether USA will do a follow up war or not.

Yes...trump wants easy and fast, low cost war, without losing soldiers. We saw that in Iran, Nigeria, Venezuela. It's up to Iran to make it costly. If Iran doesnt want to be attacked again, they most make it costly and regional and long war. It's up to Iran to write history and turn threat into opportunity.