Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Russia and China aren’t coming to Iran’s help because they are hedging their bets. They know supporting the losing guy (Khamenai) can backfire badly in a post Khamenai Iran when the country gets divided by foreigners once again.

So that’s why in its 11th hour. Iran has no allies coming to its assistance. A disastrous foreign policy that Solemani did his best with. Now without Solemani around, the decline has been fast and abrupt. And the poor showing in the 12 day War has emboldened the U.S. and Iran.
 
I have a really bad feeling about this. I pray Iran really make it through and somehow neutralize USA in the region. Israel is not the issue right now.

But if it doesn't, then t's main reason is in its failure to acquire the nuclear bomb. It had 15 years since the Stuxnet operation, to test a weapon.

Still praying for the best for them. Going by Trump patterns, he will do it over the weekend.

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Hayabusa said:
I have a really bad feeling about this. I pray Iran really make it through and somehow neutralize USA in the region. Israel is not the issue right now.

But if it doesn't, then t's main reason is in its failure to acquire the nuclear bomb. It had 15 years since the Stuxnet operation, to test a weapon.

Still praying for the best for them. Going by Trump patterns, he will do it over the weekend.

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all fake news, three days ago it was the Iranian government that was going to fall, now it's "Trump invades Iran"... there's even a video with AI saying that Trump invaded Iran and Iran surrendered. The Israeli HASBARA has evolved in the area of fake news, and now the lie is being implanted within the public.

There are no soldiers or bases to wage a war against Iran. A war against Iran requires 300,000 to 500,000 soldiers and at least 20 years of conflict(even more so now that Iran has purged itself from within the country and eliminated a lot of infiltrators, spies, puppet opposition members, etc).

- To invade Iraq in 2003 (which was much weaker than Iran is today), the US:

Countries bombing bases:
-Kuwait: Main bases (Ali al-Salem, Arifjan); 13k+ US, B-52/F-16 aircraft.
- Qatar: Al Udeid (CENTCOM command center).
- United Arab Emirates: Al Dhafra (MQ-9 reconnaissance).
- Saudi Arabia/Jordan: Air logistical support.

- Aircraft carriers: USS Kitty Hawk (Indian Ocean), Abraham Lincoln (Gulf).

Origin of US troops:
~130k US from Kuwait (land invasion), UK from Cyprus/Qatar, Australia/Poland limited support.

There is nothing even close to this for an invasion of Iran, and Iran today is 1000 times stronger than Iraq in 2003. What the US/Israel can do is assassinate or kidnap someone in Iran, and publicize it in the media as a victory, but in practice they haven't won.
 
Bharatah said:
all fake news, three days ago it was the Iranian government that was going to fall, now it's "Trump invades Iran"... there's even a video with AI saying that Trump invaded Iran and Iran surrendered. The Israeli HASBARA has evolved in the area of fake news, and now the lie is being implanted within the public.

There are no soldiers or bases to wage a war against Iran. A war against Iran requires 300,000 to 500,000 soldiers and at least 20 years of conflict(even more so now that Iran has purged itself from within the country and eliminated a lot of infiltrators, spies, puppet opposition members, etc).
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I hate Trump, but he has at times followed on with his words. This broken clock, is predictable and unpredictable.

By the way, you don't need that much soldiers. You don't even need to invade Iran to destroy it. Good ol bombing and inciting protests is enough to overthrow the government. It will then end up a fractured state.
 
Hayabusa said:
I hate Trump, but he has at times followed on with his words. This broken clock, is predictable and unpredictable.

By the way, you don't need that much soldiers. You don't even need to invade Iran to destroy it. Good ol bombing and inciting protests is enough to overthrow the government. It will then end up a fractured state.
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Friend, what you're saying doesn't fit with any known notion of geopolitics and war: since when you don't need soldiers and war to destroy a country ? you do, and today you need it more than ever before.

You're confusing the concept of "color revolution" with "classical war." The "color revolution" phase has already failed in Iran; now they either wage war(like 12 days war) or stage a media stunt involving the assassination of an important person to create a "victory in the media".

Color revolutions doesn't work everywhere, which is why they can't do it in Russia, China, Myanmar, North Korea, etc. This kind of thing works quickly in colonial countries, banana republics, and so on.
 
Starlord said:
This could mean Attack is imminent, we are once again gonna see US plunging into yet another war on behalf of Israel, I mean it starting to feel like that America is under far more brutal occupation than even Gaza is.
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Probably an assassination bombing or some Hollywood bombing of their nuclear facilities like last year. I seriously doubt Trump is going to commit ground forces which will get thousands of Americans killed. He’s all for big showy attacks that involve very little investment and cost no American lives.
 
tower9 said:
Probably an assassination bombing or some Hollywood bombing of their nuclear facilities like last year. I seriously doubt Trump is going to commit ground forces which will get thousands of Americans killed. He’s all for big showy attacks that involve very little investment and cost no American lives.
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He did bomb Iran and I don't think it worked well, plus lets not forget that its not Trump nor America that seeks conflict, its Israel that wants war and a destroyed Iran. They are running the Middle East foreign policy of USA, and no one in US govt on either side (dem/Rep) can dare to question or say no to Netanyahu and his Genocidal plans, makes you wonder how much compromised these American ministers are?
 
Bharatah said:
Friend, what you're saying doesn't fit with any known notion of geopolitics and war: since when you don't need soldiers and war to destroy a country ? you do, and today you need it more than ever before.

You're confusing the concept of "color revolution" with "classical war." The "color revolution" phase has already failed in Iran; now they either wage war(like 12 days war) or stage a media stunt involving the assassination of an important person to create a "victory in the media".

Color revolutions doesn't work everywhere, which is why they can't do it in Russia, China, Myanmar, North Korea, etc. This kind of thing works quickly in colonial countries, banana republics, and so on.
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I disagree. I am not the one confused and I understand clearly what I am saying.

The conclusion here is that a full-scale military invasion is not required to dismantle the Iranian regime. Instead, a strategy of destabilization is sufficient by fracturing the country's government infrastructure and stability, public discontent will naturally lead to internal regime change. The current administration is already facing significant challenges, and if the U.S. were to intervene, it is highly probable that the government would collapse under the pressure. It would then be left with a smaller territory to govern.
 
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these accounts are really not credible lol
 
Starlord said:
He did bomb Iran and I don't think it worked well, plus lets not forget that its not Trump nor America that seeks conflict, its Israel that wants war and a destroyed Iran. They are running the Middle East foreign policy of USA, and no one in US govt on either side (dem/Rep) can dare to question or say no to Netanyahu and his Genocidal plans, makes you wonder how much compromised these American ministers are?
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That’s old news, they are all controlled by zios. But Trump has always shied away from a ground war, he’s not going to do it. He loves big showy moves like assadsinations or high profile bombings or kidnappings. But he’s not going to commit to a ground war.
 
tower9 said:
That’s old news, they are all controlled by zios. But Trump has always shied away from a ground war, he’s not going to do it. He loves big showy moves like assadsinations or high profile bombings or kidnappings. But he’s not going to commit to a ground war.
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Lets hope neither happens, but the issue remains that Netanyahu will keep pushing Americans to fight Iran, its in their nature to have a chaotic world so they can thrive.
 
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