Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[VCheng]

We are still living the age of 'The Arabian Nights' in the 21st century!

But it was totally different in the 20th century:

Ayatollah Khomeini left Iran in 1964 for Turkey and Iraq, before moving into Neauphle-le-Château near Paris, France in 1978.

With fewer restrictions against freedom of speech in France, Khomeini had a better opportunity to communicate his message more efficiently to people in Iran in France. Because of journalists and the press in France, and the approval of foreign policy advisers in the United Kingdom and the United States and a lack of trust in Shah to support long-term British and American interests, Khomeini's speeches were published rapidly in global media. Khomeini wanted to communicate with people that continued protests against the government.

Ruhollah Khomeini's life in exile - Wikipedia

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On 11 February 1979, Ayatollah Khomeini flew into Tehran on an Air France Boeing 747, as Flight AF 4721 from Charles de Gaulle Airport. He was accompanied by supporters including Sadeq Tabatabaei, Sadegh Khalkhali as well as 120 international journalists including Peter Scholl-Latour.

Ruhollah Khomeini's return to Iran - Wikipedia

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(The small town of Kahak south of the city of Qom was renamed "Nufeloshato" in the memory of the French residence.)

 

[Watandar]

But it was totally different in the 20th century:

Ayatollah Khomeini left Iran in 1964 for Turkey and Iraq, before moving into Neauphle-le-Château near Paris, France in 1978.

With fewer restrictions against freedom of speech in France, Khomeini had a better opportunity to communicate his message more efficiently to people in Iran in France. Because of journalists and the press in France, and the approval of foreign policy advisers in the United Kingdom and the United States and a lack of trust in Shah to support long-term British and American interests, Khomeini's speeches were published rapidly in global media. Khomeini wanted to communicate with people that continued protests against the government.

Ruhollah Khomeini's life in exile - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

On 11 February 1979, Ayatollah Khomeini flew into Tehran on an Air France Boeing 747, as Flight AF 4721 from Charles de Gaulle Airport. He was accompanied by supporters including Sadeq Tabatabaei, Sadegh Khalkhali as well as 120 international journalists including Peter Scholl-Latour.

Ruhollah Khomeini's return to Iran - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

(The small town of Kahak south of the city of Qom was renamed "Nufeloshato" in the memory of the French residence.)

This was an era where secular nationalists were the threat and Islamist/Islamism was virtually unknown. The West knew that Shah was on the way out and were trying to build relations with Khomeini, his strongest possible replacement. Khomeini didnt change his views or policies because of West hosting him for awhile.

 

[VCheng]

This was an era where secular nationalists were the threat and Islamist/Islamism was virtually unknown. The West knew that Shah was on the way out and were trying to build relations with Khomeini, his strongest possible replacement. Khomeini didnt change his views or policies because of West hosting him for awhile.

Of course! Of course!

That was okay. This is definitely not.

 

[mangekyo]

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[mangekyo]

Everyone knows US is preparing to attack Iran. Why is IRI letting them? If the plan is to not look like the aggressor and hope the international community will stop the war, that’s not going to work.

 

[sutton9999]

This was an era where secular nationalists were the threat and Islamist/Islamism was virtually unknown. The West knew that Shah was on the way out and were trying to build relations with Khomeini, his strongest possible replacement. Khomeini didnt change his views or policies because of West hosting him for awhile.

No, it is very common tactic.

Khomeini, Castro, Mao, Lenin all had Anglo support to win revolution.

 

[Bharatah]

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Reuters said 4 days ago that the US would attack within 24 hours...this is hybrid warfare and fake news

 

[Watandar]

No, it is very common tactic.

Khomeini, Castro, Mao, Lenin all had Anglo support to win revolution.

Alternatively, they used West to win their revolutions and then adopted a different path than what West was expecting.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

announcement to put tariffs on those who are doing business with IR, could be an indication that attack is still on the table

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

WSJ Op-Ed calling for partition of Iran:

A Fractured Iran Might Not Be So Bad​

Its borders are artificial, and a breakup would frustrate the interests of Russia, China and others.​

Meanwhile, nobody outside Iran is providing arms to the populace as the regime mows them down mercilessly. For the sake of regional and world peace, the best option may be to help secession happen and thereby take a downsized Iran, freed from a murderous regime, off the geopolitical chessboard entirely.

Author: Melik Kaylan

Deploying Mossad agents to sow chaos did not help them to overthrow the Iranian regime. So, they're coming up these shenanigans. There is no question that they're desperate. They're talking about the partitioning of a country whose security and armed forces keep giving them a bloody nose. They're cry babies.

 

[mangekyo]

Reuters said 4 days ago that the US would attack within 24 hours...this is hybrid warfare and fake news

They are 100% going to. They are just recalculating and bringing in more firepower.

 

[aerospace_enthusiast_newb]

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Couldn't this be a fabrication though?

 

[aerospace_enthusiast_newb]

They are 100% going to. They are just recalculating and bringing in more firepower.

Seems like it.

Having said that, if they want more than symbolic strikes, they need to operate 2 carrier groups.

Tomahawks + 1 CSG is probably not enough. Unless Trump is planning a one-and-done.

Another possibility is 1 CSG + Tomahawks from Submarines + Israeli firepower.

 

[Tom_Cruise]

Reuters said 4 days ago that the US would attack within 24 hours...this is hybrid warfare and fake news

A second carrier group, the USS George Bush left Norfolk, Virginia 3 days ago. It's heading to the eastern Med, presumably to protect Israel. The first group, the USS Abraham Lincoln should be near the mid east by now.

They're just getting into position.

 

[FarhanSiddiqui]

Couldn't this be a fabrication though?

In Bosnian war, many shooters/snipers came from different countries to kill Muslim Bosnians. Now Zionazis are sending old Soviet weapons with mercenaries into Iran. Iranian Communist Mujahideen Khalq joined Saddam forces in war against their own homeland. I support Imran Khan but I am not going join enemy forces against my homeland as protest for incarceration of Imran Khan.