Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Maea]

Again ?

We can have our wishes but one must remain realistic. Even I would want to see end of US hegemony and its enemies able to give an equal response but our wishes means nothing in face of reality. You are fundamentally wrong at basics of warfare and geopolitics.

Wrong on warfare because Iran has no means to sink US aircraft carrier. Wrong on geopolitics & reality as doing so or even attempting to doing so is equivalent to a suicide for Iran.

US bombed and wiped out nuclear facilities built with billions of dollars, enduring decades of sanctions and decades of hardwork. Was that not an act of all out war? What Iran did in response?? Or what even it could do against US? An early warning and a symbolic attack at Qatari base with no losses, no impacts, not a single plane or person killed. Iran can never even imagine to hurt United States as Iran knows about consequences. Forget about an aircraft carrier, even if Iran sinks a destroyer then all hell will be unleashed on Iran. Entire Iranian oil and economic facilities will be wiped out, its government buildings, and tens of thousands of civilians will be killed in retaliatory strikes.

BTW!
With what and How on god damn earth, Iran would sink a US aircraft carrier?
those carriers remain at a safe distance. Secondly they are protected by world's most advance submarines under the ocean and air defense destroyers. Even if missiles stuck the carrier, You can never sink such a massive aircraft carrier with cruise missiles alone. You can only sunk an aircraft carrier with a heavy torpedoes or a cruise missile tipped with a tactical low yield warhead. Iran has no such options available. Iran do not have modern submarines or tactical nuclear weapons.

Lastly, as other member pointed out sinking of aircraft carrier means 5000+ US members gone and that will definitely allow US enough excuse to unleash nuclear Armageddon and convert Iran to dust and radiation zone. So by all means there's absolutely no comparison on earth between US and Iran.

Sorry to say but, all I hear is "**** talking".

So if someone is killing you mercilessly you should just bent even more without even thinking about hitting them back?
This is exactly the type of mentality that got us( Muslims) where we are today. I have my reservations about Iran, but this is nor the place neither the time to discuss those issues.

 

[hussain0216]

Well you can then kiss every exposed critical infrastructure in Iran bye bye to make up for a multibillion loss by the US. Every power plant, shipping port, oil terminal, oil processing facility, etc turning Iran into Afghanistan.

You can claim this&that about the US but wrecking everything in Iran is not on the list…unless provoked.

Ahhh so just let the U.S attack your country for the Zionists but don't respond

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

It's certain that the US military will be dealt a Bloody Nose if they attack Iran.

Just remember it is only to overseas US assets in bases in the Middle East. While for Iran it would be their front door and backyard.

Say what you want to make yourself feel better.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Ahhh so just let the U.S attack your country

The US already did incase you forgot. But were the lights permanently put out and commercial shipping docks destroyed? Are bases on both sides in the Middle East flattened? That’s not what is going on.

 

[Meengla]

Because Houthis have nothing to lose. No oil & gas infrastructure, no industry, plus smaller population that is used to living in tough and poor conditions. Most of the times striking missiles at Yemen cost less damage to Yemen and houthis then the worth of missiles that were used. Just like afghanistan/taliban situation.
Whereas Iran has lot more to lose. That's why Iran never tries to mess with US and gives very very careful symbolic response in which no american life is lost.

Truer words have never been spoken. Might as well add the Qabarastan aka Afghanistan along with the Houthis.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Because Houthis have nothing to lose. No oil & gas infrastructure, no industry, plus smaller population that is used to living in tough and poor conditions. Most of the times striking missiles at Yemen cost less damage to Yemen and houthis then the worth of missiles that were used. Just like afghanistan/taliban situation.

Whereas Iran has lot more to lose. That's why Iran never tries to mess with US and gives very very careful symbolic response in which no american life is lost.

That is not how the Americans or Israel will approach this conflict. You have to trade blows and actually hurt the Americans, otherwise you end up like Syria was, bombed to hell. Trump has the MAGA crowd to deal with, and military losses will be difficult for him to sustain. That is his weakness.

It is Iran's indecision and poor quality responses that have led to this very place so far, and it is a losing strategy.

 

[ToddE]

Ahhh so just let the U.S attack your country for the Zionists but don't respond

You try killing Anglo-American-Euro-Jew alliance, they will choke you to death kinetically and non kinetically both. You know how many attacks US and co. have conducted in Islamic countries upon their will ? and local in-debted weak Governments either hid them or just played it politically like they were allied with US so they are not seen being attacked from outside, be it Obamas decade long drone campaigns, CIA ground operations, air space breaches etc. IRI is the only sustaining Islamic government on earth which has atleast mass attacked American Flagged Entities outside their own borders like bases. IRI mullahs need to go, their time is up but their ball size is abnormally large for an average muslim.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Just remember it is only to overseas US assets in bases in the Middle East. While for Iran it would be their front door and backyard.

Say what you want to make yourself feel better.

Right, but the Americans have lots of Intel fab's in Israel, if destroyed, will cost the Americans 10's of billions of dollars in lost Infrastructure assets. Right? There are equivalent infrastructure targets in the region that will hurt American economic interests a lot. The problem is not the lack of targets, it has been the flaws in Iran's responses to date which fail to impose an actual cost, for hostilities that cost Iran those billions in lost infrastructure.

 

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Khamenai confirms high death toll in the “thousands”. Not a good sign of stability.

 

[PK781]

if iran is going down, i'd say they should at the least, make it costly for everyone in the region, including middle eastern gulfies.....those little kinglets need to bear the price for letting american and nato military into the region
Take em all out

 

[Liquidator]

Just remember it is only to overseas US assets in bases in the Middle East. While for Iran would be their front door and backyard.

Say what you want to make yourself feel better.

The target will be the nazi state of Israel.
That will hurt you Jew worshiping pedophiles the most.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

That is not how the Americans or Israel will approach this conflict. You have to trade blows and actually hurt the Americans, otherwise you end up like Syria was, bombed to hell. Trump has the MAGA crowd to deal with, and military losses will be difficult for him to sustain. That is his weakness.

It is Iran's indecision and poor quality responses that have led to this very place so far, and it is a losing strategy.

Again the mentality of the armchair warriors here is going the absolute destruction route.

 

[ToddE]

^ you expect stability after IRGC siphoned 112 Billion USD from Oil revenues in 2025 to their own offshore companies to cause artificial deficit in central bank ? Is there any other explanation how come a country that earned 112 Billion USD worth Yuan/RMB from exports revenues is facing inflation, after massive trade gains. Larijani faction, reformists, IRGC are all in it. Ayatollahs got trapped in this plan, protests are conspiracy for internal regime change which is why Trump-Jews saw through it and left. War with Israel+US would have been be the last stage of this IRGC hatched plan to kick Mullahs out.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Right, but the Americans have lots of Intel fab's in Israel, if destroyed, will cost the Americans 10's of billions of dollars in lost Infrastructure assets. Right? There are equivalent infrastructure targets in the region that will hurt American economic interests a lot.

Just an excuse to hand the Israelis more $Billions for updated buildings which I’m sure they’d welcome. I’m sure they’d want them destroyed.

 

[Meengla]

Right, but the Americans have lots of Intel fab's in Israel, if destroyed, will cost the Americans 10's of billions of dollars in lost Infrastructure assets. Right? There are equivalent infrastructure targets in the region that will hurt American economic interests a lot. The problem is not the lack of targets, it has been the flaws in Iran's responses to date which fail to impose an actual cost, for hostilities that cost Iran those billions in lost infrastructure.

A few billion here and there is nothing to the Americans. The strategic gains of getting control over resources--like just happening in Venezuela and being planned for Iran and Greenland--are long term big bucks.
It is the loss of the American servicemen which is the biggest concern in American decision making due to American politics.